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Post by flasuss on Jul 23, 2020 13:17:43 GMT
That 60 Minutes interview. 2:15 - surreptitious smile 6:32 - Freudian slip It's nothing to get excited about, but, unlike Kind, I'm not going to dismiss the allegations purely on my love for his films. His obsession with young girls permeates his art, and he has form in his personal life. But I don't know.
...Except for the fact that Kind's belief he didn't do it has nothing to do with love for his films.
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Post by quetee on Jul 23, 2020 17:23:53 GMT
That 60 Minutes interview. 2:15 - surreptitious smile 6:32 - Freudian slip It's nothing to get excited about, but, unlike Kind, I'm not going to dismiss the allegations purely on my love for his films. His obsession with young girls permeates his art, and he has form in his personal life. But I don't know. I think a 40 year old with a 17 year old is ugh.... but guess what the state of NY does not agree with me. Dylan was 7 years old at the time and the people who target that group are not going after anyone legal.
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Post by mikediastavrone96 on Jul 23, 2020 17:55:51 GMT
Look, I don't know what the hell happened, but let's get over this idea that all pedophiles are serial offenders or only find children attractive. Since when has anything in life regarding sexuality and/or morality been that simple?
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Post by pacinoyes on Jul 23, 2020 19:04:01 GMT
I don't really get the point of any Woody Allen thread tbh - much less a NEW thread - that isn't about the quality of one of his movies or some new facts in this criminal case.
The case is pretty much closed and has been for 30 years ..........with no new facts ....... I like Dick Kind (um) but I can read the transcripts of the case and have my own opinion that has nothing to do with his (even if we come to the same POV) and so can everybody else.
Woody, please describe the issue of pedophilia and it's relationship to you here in 2020:
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Post by thomasjerome on Feb 5, 2021 17:32:57 GMT
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Post by JangoB on Feb 5, 2021 20:08:46 GMT
Oh wonderful, a 4-part Farrow-approved documentary with interviews from everyone of her camp which I'm SURE will address all the inconsistencies, dubious arguments, disproven lies, etc. They really can't let Allen rest, can they? It's just too much of an attention-grabbing subject so they'll do anything to milk the shit out of it forever.
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Post by Mattsby on Feb 5, 2021 21:41:05 GMT
Yikes.... lemme guess, Woody's movies are actually creepy, Mia is a saint, and Moses? who's that?
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Post by pacinoyes on Feb 5, 2021 22:04:32 GMT
I can't imagine that there's anything new to say on this story - nothing has changed criminally in 30 years.....I know HBO is very pro-victims rights but their recent Michael Jackson doc Leaving Neverland at least featured new accusations and context and never before articulated testimonials (and that documentary to me was devastating against MJ, but not everyone thought so).
I mean, we'll see, maybe they have a bombshell but that seems unlikely to put it mildly.....
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Post by flasuss on Feb 5, 2021 22:08:41 GMT
I'm sure this will be "fair and balanced". Allen is a more patient man than me, because I would have sued everybody long ago.
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Post by countjohn on Feb 7, 2021 5:37:32 GMT
Woody probably wouldn't even agree to be interviewed in this thing even if they asked him but if they don't cover the recent Moses Farrow allegations it's hatchet job propaganda.
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Post by hugobolso on Feb 8, 2021 17:52:30 GMT
The whole thing is all these was judged almost 30 years ago. If Woody Allen is guilty of these accusations, more guilty are the judge, police, experts etc. involve, because they lied, or they were negligent.-
I have the theory, that Mia Farrow hates Allen even since Blue Jasmine. Because she is BLUE JASMINE!!!
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Post by thomasjerome on Feb 16, 2021 16:04:06 GMT
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Feb 16, 2021 16:45:21 GMT
Dick and Ziering are excellent documentarians who have worked in the exposé space for over two decades. The Invisible War, Hunting Ground, and The Bleeding Edge are some of the best documentaries of their respective years, and they just released another last year about sexual abuse in the music industry. Looking forward to this.
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Post by Pasquale on Feb 16, 2021 23:49:19 GMT
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Post by RiverleavesElmius on Feb 17, 2021 0:48:39 GMT
Dick and Ziering are excellent documentarians who have worked in the exposé space for over two decades. The Invisible War, Hunting Ground, and The Bleeding Edge are some of the best documentaries of their respective years, and they just released another last year about sexual abuse in the music industry. Looking forward to this. What a disingenuous SUCKER!! 🖕😆🖕
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Post by futuretrunks on Feb 17, 2021 1:39:27 GMT
I can't understand how anybody can put out a doc right now and not deal with Moses Farrow.
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Post by flasuss on Feb 17, 2021 2:26:21 GMT
I can't understand how anybody can put out a doc right now and not deal with Moses Farrow. Silly You, assuming the makers are interested in the truth.
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Post by RiverleavesElmius on Feb 17, 2021 3:34:15 GMT
I truly hope this reviewer dies.
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Post by Viced on Feb 19, 2021 20:29:08 GMT
Not sure if this has ever been posted here... but last May, Rick Worley (a San Francisco cartoonist - Zodiac vibes) released a two and a half hour doc assembling all the facts of the case and arguing Woody's innocence.
I'm only 10 minutes in, but it's pretty well done so far. And it's Robert B. Weide (Woody's #1 defender) approved. Probably a good counterpoint to the HBO thing.
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Post by akittystang on Feb 24, 2021 8:14:07 GMT
I woke up this morning and see I have a text message from my HBOMax subscribing mother. "I JUST FINISHED THE FIRST EPISODE OF ALLEN v FARROW. HE DID IT." I didn’t want to force my opinion on her, I wanted her to come to the conclusion herself. If she ever would. So many just have to believe this happened, for whatever reason. I basically had to ask her questions why she thought this or that and then explain certain things that had been distorted and back up whatever I said with a decent source. I’m not doing the conversation justice. We really went back and forth. it was as if we analyzing evidence in a cold case or something. I had watched this before my mom and I had remembered there was a moment Mia really played down. Which was Mia confronting Soon-Yi. I actually dug my copy of her book out to make sure that I wasn't the one who was misremembering. A writer over at the New York Post noticed this as well. Apparently she was in court while Mia was on the stand: nypost.com/2021/02/22/put-me-on-team-woody-mia-farrow-is-full-of-it/I couldn't find the story she told on the stand in the book, but I found something similar. Mia asks Soon-Yi when this all started and apparently "too many unspeakable details" (or something to that effect) are shared and Mia just lashes out at her and starts beating her, even though Mia was the one who wanted her to talk about this. Three versions of roughly the same event. Once I shared that quote, and gave her a link, and gave her a run down of the book's version she realized that documentary was full of shit. How many people are actually going to take the time to do any of that after watching this thing, though? Honestly, at this point, I feel like every journalist who covers this in anyway should be forced to read these two things: radaronline.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/yale-new-haven-hospital-allen.pdfwww.nytimes.com/1993/10/26/nyregion/agency-drops-abuse-inquiry-in-allen-case.html(I had to create an account to open the second link. Here's the important bit: The state Department of Social Services informed Mr. Allen in a letter dated Oct. 7 that it had closed the 14-month-old investigation. "No credible evidence was found that the child named in this report has been abused or maltreated," the letter said. "This report has, therefore, been considered unfounded.")And then watch the only piece of footage I have ever seen where Mia is giving any kind of comment about this while this was still ongoing: The first minute of this is just embarrassing. I would never have thought the person clutching their pearls over a question was ever up for a major award for acting. She's lying and it's obvious. Woody Allen isn't innocent in this, but he didn't do what he's accused of. Two separate investigations found that nothing happened. I really don't know what else there is to say beyond that. This new documentary, as well made as it is, is a bunch of twisted truths and lies. The filmmakers should never work again but they'll probably get an Emmy instead.
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Post by MsMovieStar on Feb 24, 2021 9:33:13 GMT
The first minute of this is just embarrassing. I would never have thought the person clutching their pearls over a question was ever up for a major award for acting. She's lying and it's obvious. Woody Allen isn't innocent in this, but he didn't do what he's accused of. Two separate investigations found that nothing happened. I really don't know what else there is to say beyond that. This new documentary, as well made as it maybe, is a bunch of twisted truths and lies. The filmmakers should never work again but they'll probably get an Emmy instead. Oh honey, can I just add that Woody Allen & Soon Yi have two adopted daughters. If he was considered a serious threat to children then the authorities would never have permitted that to happen.
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Post by pupdurcs on Feb 24, 2021 9:57:52 GMT
Judd Apatow coming for Allen's neck. Which surprises me for some reason (just assumed Apatow would put him on a pedestal as a comedy god or something).
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Post by akittystang on Feb 24, 2021 10:21:06 GMT
The first minute of this is just embarrassing. I would never have thought the person clutching their pearls over a question was ever up for a major award for acting. She's lying and it's obvious. Woody Allen isn't innocent in this, but he didn't do what he's accused of. Two separate investigations found that nothing happened. I really don't know what else there is to say beyond that. This new documentary, as well made as it maybe, is a bunch of twisted truths and lies. The filmmakers should never work again but they'll probably get an Emmy instead. Oh honey, can I just add that Woody Allen & Soon Yi have two adopted daughters. If he was considered a serious threat to children then the authorities would never have permitted that to happen. Absolutely! Does Woody Allen now have pull in the furthest corners of everywhere? Mia, I think, ripped all over Yale-New Haven Hospital and accused them of being bankrolled by Woody or something outrageous. So did NY Department of Social Services get bought off too? Honestly, until I saw that video, I hoped that maybe she was paranoid and going a little off the deep end and just asked her one too many times until Dylan gave her a story she wanted and maybe this wasn’t intentional. As soon as I saw the first bit of that interview, I knew she was lying. She intentionally did all of this. Those poor kids. Yeah. Sleeping with your girlfriend’s/partner/whatever they were’s daughter is obviously absolutely insanely wrong but to go that far to retaliate? And keep it up for how many years? I wonder if Dylan actually believes this happened to her? I really don’t know. What I do know is that for such a self-proclaimed advocate for abuse survivors saying, ‘you’re dead to me’, to Moses Farrow, really tells me all I need to know about her. It reminds of Andre Previn saying, “She [Sooni-Yi] doesn’t exist.”
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Post by MsMovieStar on Feb 24, 2021 12:54:27 GMT
Oh honey, can I just add that Woody Allen & Soon Yi have two adopted daughters. If he was considered a serious threat to children then the authorities would never have permitted that to happen. Absolutely! Does Woody Allen now have pull in the furthest corners of everywhere? Mia, I think, ripped all over Yale-New Haven Hospital and accused them of being bankrolled by Woody or something outrageous. So did NY Department of Social Services get bought off too? Honestly, until I saw that video, I hoped that maybe she was paranoid and going a little off the deep end and just asked her one too many times until Dylan gave her a story she wanted and maybe this wasn’t intentional. As soon as I saw the first bit of that interview, I knew she was lying. She intentionally did all of this. Those poor kids. Yeah. Sleeping with your girlfriend’s/partner/whatever they were’s daughter is obviously absolutely insanely wrong but to go that far to retaliate? And keep it up for how many years? I wonder if Dylan actually believes this happened to her? I really don’t know. What I do know is that for such a self-proclaimed advocate for abuse survivors saying, ‘you’re dead to me’, to Moses Farrow, really tells me all I need to know about her. It reminds of Andre Previn saying, “She [Sooni-Yi] doesn’t exist.”
Oh honey, she doesn't really have anything else going on, which is probably why she hasn't moved on. Let's face it career wise she reached her zenith in the 80s while she was with Woody Allen. Excluding Rosemary's Baby in 1968, all her noms and awards are from her work in his movies. They were also a huge power couple like Brangelina. She never went on to anything that surpassed that... totally consumed by bitterness.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2021 15:00:04 GMT
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