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Post by pupdurcs on Jun 1, 2022 19:48:05 GMT
Happy for Depp getting the verdict. I've never even been a massive fan of his as an actor, so I'm not one of his "fanboys/girls", but I believe in justice and Amber Heard is clearly lying trash, and a jury and a court of law have now agreed. Get your money and your career back Deppster!
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Post by HELENA MARIA on Jun 1, 2022 19:49:41 GMT
I don't believe her either. She's such an obvious grifter. Putting up her gang of freeloading friends in Depp's penthouses, lying about donating her divorce settlement to charity etc. Recording and taping her ex-husband at every available opportunity, but never actually managing to get recorded evidence of him physically abusing her (but she did film him throwing things at inanimate objects ). The list of shit that makes her a horribly unreliable witness is legion. That's her problem. No doubt Depp himself is a drug/alcohol addicted mess/man-child with a cadre of Yes Men who suck him off to stay employed, but ultimately I don't see him as a physically/sexually abusive man in a relationship. None of his previous relationships suggest that and everything I've seen about Heard suggests her to be a ruthless narrcisst who is willing to do or say anything to get what she wants. THIS ! How can some people still believe that manipulative wench is quite baffling and disturbing to me ! And spare me the whole "you're a woman so you must believe all women" BS . I'm not going to stand by a lying narcissist who clearly was the aggressor in the story just because we both have a vagina !And while we're at it , fuck that turd for using the #METOO movement for her own personal gain and stealing the voices of real female DV survivors in the process.
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Post by Ryan_MYeah on Jun 1, 2022 19:50:27 GMT
Good. Now can it go away, please? If I ever hear “Aquamaaaaann” again, I might just kick a mailbox.
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Post by HELENA MARIA on Jun 1, 2022 20:01:33 GMT
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Post by quetee on Jun 1, 2022 20:25:43 GMT
I don't believe her either. She's such an obvious grifter. Putting up her gang of freeloading friends in Depp's penthouses, lying about donating her divorce settlement to charity etc. Recording and taping her ex-husband at every available opportunity, but never actually managing to get recorded evidence of him physically abusing her (but she did film him throwing things at inanimate objects ). The list of shit that makes her a horribly unreliable witness is legion. That's her problem. No doubt Depp himself is a drug/alcohol addicted mess/man-child with a cadre of Yes Men who suck him off to stay employed, but ultimately I don't see him as a physically/sexually abusive man in a relationship. None of his previous relationships suggest that and everything I've seen about Heard suggests her to be a ruthless narrcisst who is willing to do or say anything to get what she wants. THIS ! How can some people still believe that manipulative wench is quite baffling and disturbing to me ! And spare me the whole "you're a woman so you must believe all women" BS . I'm not going to stand by a lying narcissist who clearly was the aggressor in the story just because we both have a vagina !And while we're at it , fuck that turd for using the #METOO movement for her own personal gain and stealing the voices of real female DM survivors in the process. No lies told. Amber is a disgrace. I hope her sister finds the courage to tell the truth.
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Post by quetee on Jun 1, 2022 20:26:14 GMT
Happy for Depp getting the verdict . I've never even been a massive fan of his as an actor, so I'm not one of his "fanboys/girls", but I believe in justice and Amber Heard is clearly lying trash, and a jury and a court of law have now agreed. Get your money and your career back Deppster! The jury said, NOPE, don't believe that bullshit.
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Post by JangoB on Jun 1, 2022 20:31:11 GMT
This is the first time I've been actively following a big case like that and I have to say I'm most pleased with the outcome
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Post by therealcomicman117 on Jun 1, 2022 20:38:24 GMT
Good for Depp. I'm not even huge on his side, but from everything I could see, Heard came off like a huge phony. Justice is actually being served for a change.
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Post by countjohn on Jun 1, 2022 20:49:22 GMT
While Depp does not sound like a great guy she inarguably told defamatory lies about him in public which happens to be illegal. Glad almost everyone was able to put Post MeToo virtue signaling aside for long enough to hold someone accountable for this stuff for once.
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Post by HELENA MARIA on Jun 1, 2022 21:12:09 GMT
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Jun 1, 2022 21:54:22 GMT
Yay, one asshole ruins another asshole's career. Yaaaay
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Post by PromNightCarrie on Jun 1, 2022 22:30:05 GMT
Holy shit! After watching so much of that cringing and yet not being able to peel myself away, I'm glad it's finally over too. I thought the only win would be in the court of public opinion. But then by the end of the case, her defense got weaker and less believable. They actually resorted to arguing "well, we don't have proof of physical, so we'll go to verbal abuse to defend her." But wait, there is audio of Amber saying horrible things to him too. They relied too much on vile, venting text messages to friends and drugs. The histrionic personality disorder symptoms talked about were on full display by her on the stand. But Camille Vasquez really ate her up in that second cross and got certain things out of her about her intentions that couldn't have looked good to a jury.
I've been calling Johnny Depp a midlife crisis-having drunk for years, even before their divorce. Neither is a saint. My problem with her came when I first started hearing the audio. Not only was it triggering (if you've been with a narc, you know), but my main gripe is we don't need you representing DV survivors if you're on audio admitting to starting physical fights and saying you can't guarantee there won't be more while your husband is trying, pleading to escape. That's out and I actually find it offensive.
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Post by stabcaesar on Jun 2, 2022 2:50:06 GMT
She's said that she will appeal. The fact that the jurors weren't sequestered is very disturbing. There was no way they were impartial considering the circumstances.
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Post by stabcaesar on Jun 2, 2022 3:21:17 GMT
I’m probably the only one on this forum who believes her, and that’s fine. My support for her is based purely on the extensive evidence that’s out there in full and in context that’s publicly available (like the UK judgement). It’s also based on actually understanding dynamics and psychology between abusers and victims, why victims act the way they do even if they seem counterintuitive, and not just watching one sided meme videos about the trial. I also understand there’s no such thing as a perfect victim, and one doesn’t have to be a perfect victim to be a victim of abuse. The perfect victim to people mocking her viciously is a dead victim. And she’s being punished because she fought for her life when her drug addict aging movie star ex-husband thrashed her around, held her by the neck, and raped her. She told him in an audio she was afraid he was going to accidentally kill her, and you all think she’s Amy Dunne because she fought back something she didn’t do when she was also abused by her dad. Even if she wins, public opinion is clearly against her, but history will vindicate her and judge people who viciously mock her. There’s no way any of you watched the trial in full or read the UK judgement. Every single talking point yall are spewing on here has been debunked throughout the trial and/or by Judge Nicol’s decision. If you did read the decision and/or watch the trial and side with him, then you’re just an absolute fucking idiot. Like a truly stupid and hateful person. You suck for being a Putler supporter but you are absolutely right about this. This verdict will age incredibly poorly - hopefully overturned by the appellate court. The fact that the jurors weren't sequestered is disturbing to say the least. That said, losing now might be a blessing in disguise for Heard as a) there is more support for her now - including some women in Hollywood rallying behind her in the past few hours (e.g. Julianne Moore) and b) I would say her personal safety is more guaranteed by losing this first instance; I legit believe Depp's rabid cult followers would kill her had she won.
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Post by HELENA MARIA on Jun 2, 2022 3:53:53 GMT
stabcaesar On the contrary. This will age very well and hopefully, it will encourage more men who have been victims of domestic / sexual violence to come forward.
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Post by stabcaesar on Jun 2, 2022 3:57:44 GMT
stabcaesar On the contrary. This will age very well and hopefully, it will encourage more men who have been victims of domestic / sexual violence to come forward. No. It will silence more victims out of fear for financial ruin.
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Post by HELENA MARIA on Jun 2, 2022 4:00:07 GMT
stabcaesar On the contrary. This will age very well and hopefully, it will encourage more men who have been victims of domestic / sexual violence to come forward. No. It will silence more victims out of fear for financial ruin. Yeah, well you can blame the vicious Miss Turd for that. For making a joke of real DV survivors.
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Post by stabcaesar on Jun 2, 2022 4:05:13 GMT
No. It will silence more victims out of fear for financial ruin. Yeah, well you can blame the vicious Miss Turd for that. For making a joke of real DV survivors. I am tired of arguing about this. The SOCIAL MEDIA made fun of DV survivors.
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Post by HELENA MARIA on Jun 2, 2022 4:26:06 GMT
Yeah, well you can blame the vicious Miss Turd for that. For making a joke of real DV survivors. I am tired of arguing about this. The SOCIAL MEDIA made fun of DV survivors. No Amber did!I just despise how the media are willing to blame everyone and everything but Amber. Stop finding her excuses because she's a woman.People wouldn't be so magnanimous if she were a man. Women are not as delicate and innocent as some people think they are.
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Post by quetee on Jun 2, 2022 5:04:25 GMT
stabcaesar On the contrary. This will age very well and hopefully, it will encourage more men who have been victims of domestic / sexual violence to come forward. No. It will silence more victims out of fear for financial ruin. Amber straight up lied. I will be marking this spot for when her sister finally admits to Amber's abusive ways. That shoe will drop years from now but it will drop.
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Post by quetee on Jun 2, 2022 5:07:05 GMT
I am tired of arguing about this. The SOCIAL MEDIA made fun of DV survivors. No Amber did!I just despise how the media are willing to blame everyone and everything but Amber. Stop finding her excuses because she's a woman.People wouldn't be so magnanimous if she were a man. Women are not as delicate and innocent as some people think they are. There was no credibility whatsoever on her part. None. I felt uncomfortable when I watched her testimony because the level of lying was off the charts. Her story made no sense.
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Post by stabcaesar on Jun 2, 2022 6:24:00 GMT
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Post by HELENA MARIA on Jun 2, 2022 10:13:07 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2022 13:24:07 GMT
I honestly have no idea who I believe in this case, but I do think this sets a dangerous precedent - i.e. that you can be found guilty of defamation without actually naming anyone.
I won't be surprised if this verdict is overturned.
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Post by RiverleavesElmius on Jun 2, 2022 14:17:05 GMT
I honestly have no idea who I believe in this case, but I do think this sets a dangerous precedent - i.e. that you can be found guilty of defamation without actually naming anyone. I won't be surprised if this verdict is overturned. Wanna bet???
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