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Post by MacLinney on Feb 22, 2017 12:54:06 GMT
Every award season, the term "snub" is inevitably one of the most frequently used words, especially in the acting categories. To me, it's used way to often, to the point where basically everyone not nominated has been called snubbed at one point or another. In my opinion, the term should not be particularly connected to the quality of the performance (or craft work), but rather to the likelihood of a nomination or number of other nominations leading up to the Oscars.
Disregarding the quality of performance, I would consider someone like Tilda Swinton in We Need to Talk About Kevin snubbed. She was nominated for the BAFTA, Golden Globes, SAG and Critics Choice (+ got a number of critic groups mentions) yet still missed an Oscar nom. Compare that to, say, Rebecca Hall in Christine (a movie I have yet to see), whom I've seen people say were snubbed several times. She was not nominated by any of the preceding major awards (but did get a handful of critics mentions), and was not Oscar nominated either. I hardly think she sat at the edge of her seat on Oscar morning expecting to hear her name called...
Do you follow my train of thought here, or do you consider every strong performance not nominated a snub?
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Post by Christ_Ian_Bale on Feb 22, 2017 16:58:28 GMT
Yeah, I'm with you.
What bothers me even more, though, is when people (mostly outside of a place like this) use the word "snub" for people who were nominated but didn't win, e.g. "Michael Keaton got snubbed for Birdman." That's just... Don't do that.
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Post by cornnetto on Feb 22, 2017 17:01:27 GMT
I would agree you need to have been seen to be snubbed (being just unseen/not in consideration because of the genre is different than being snubbed).
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2017 17:02:27 GMT
I personally consider snubs as legit good contenders who had a legitimate chance at a nom/win.
For example, Steve Jobs won't be considered snubbed in any category other than Screenplay for me, as much as I liked its other aspects.
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Post by stephen on Feb 22, 2017 17:02:44 GMT
Every award season, the term "snub" is inevitably one of the most frequently used words, especially in the acting categories. To me, it's used way to often, to the point where basically everyone not nominated has been called snubbed at one point or another. In my opinion, the term should not be particularly connected to the quality of the performance (or craft work), but rather to the likelihood of a nomination or number of other nominations leading up to the Oscars. Disregarding the quality of performance, I would consider someone like Tilda Swinton in We Need to Talk About Kevin snubbed. She was nominated for the BAFTA, Golden Globes, SAG and Critics Choice (+ got a number of critic groups mentions) yet still missed an Oscar nom. Compare that to, say, Rebecca Hall in Christine (a movie I have yet to see), whom I've seen people say were snubbed several times. She was not nominated by any of the preceding major awards (but did get a handful of critics mentions), and was not Oscar nominated either. I hardly think she sat at the edge of her seat on Oscar morning expecting to hear her name called... Do you follow my train of thought here, or do you consider every strong performance not nominated a snub? I agree with you in that intrinsically, a snub is when someone should have by rights gotten a nomination but didn't. Tom Hanks in Captain Phillips, Jake Gyllenhaal in Nightcrawler, Emma Thompson in Saving Mr. Banks . . . I also think that there are certain extenuating circumstances that might also fall under that umbrella, like Albert Brooks sweeping through the critics left and right for Drive, then getting cockblocked at the industry prizes. But yeah, not every great performance that misses a nomination is a snub. Those are oversights. |
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Post by mikediastavrone96 on Feb 22, 2017 17:36:27 GMT
I'm in the same boat. They need to have legitimately been in the conversation for a nomination with either a critical sweep or industry awards momentum.
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Post by Johnny_Hellzapoppin on Feb 23, 2017 11:53:44 GMT
Every award season, the term "snub" is inevitably one of the most frequently used words, especially in the acting categories. To me, it's used way to often, to the point where basically everyone not nominated has been called snubbed at one point or another. In my opinion, the term should not be particularly connected to the quality of the performance (or craft work), but rather to the likelihood of a nomination or number of other nominations leading up to the Oscars. Disregarding the quality of performance, I would consider someone like Tilda Swinton in We Need to Talk About Kevin snubbed. She was nominated for the BAFTA, Golden Globes, SAG and Critics Choice (+ got a number of critic groups mentions) yet still missed an Oscar nom. Compare that to, say, Rebecca Hall in Christine (a movie I have yet to see), whom I've seen people say were snubbed several times. She was not nominated by any of the preceding major awards (but did get a handful of critics mentions), and was not Oscar nominated either. I hardly think she sat at the edge of her seat on Oscar morning expecting to hear her name called... Do you follow my train of thought here, or do you consider every strong performance not nominated a snub? I pretty much agree with your entire post. |
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Post by Kirk-Picard on Feb 23, 2017 12:22:38 GMT
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