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Post by Johnny_Hellzapoppin on Mar 16, 2018 14:36:30 GMT
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Post by Johnny_Hellzapoppin on Mar 16, 2018 14:55:33 GMT
Some early doors FYCing
Best Picture The Killing of a Sacred Deer Brawl in Cell Block 99 Thor: Ragnarok Wind River
Best Director Yorgos Lanthimos, The Killing of a Sacred Deer Matt Reeves, War for the Planet of the Apes S. Craig Zahler, Brawl in Cell Block 99
Best Actor James McAvoy, Split Colin Farrell, The Killing of a Sacred Deer Robert Pattinson, Good Time Jeremy Renner, Wind River
Best Actress Vicky Krieps, Phantom Thread Noomi Rapace, What Happened to Monday Sandra Escacena, VerĂ³nica Melanie Lynskey, I Don't Feel at Home in This World Anymore.
Best Supporting Actor Barry Keoghan, The Killing of a Sacred Deer Garrett Hedlund, Mudbound Michael Stuhlbarg, Call Me by Your Name Will Poulter, Detroit Simon Russell Beale, The Death of Stalin Benny Safdie, Good Time
Best Supporting Actress Not Allison Janney in I, Tonya
Betty Gabriel, Get Out Nicole Kidman,The Killing of a Sacred Deer Sophia Lillis, It Holly Hunter, The Big Sick Kirsten Dunst, The Beguiled Zoe Kazan, The Big Sick
Best Ensemble Cast The Death of Stalin Detroit It The Beguiled Shimmer Lake The Little Hours
Best Original Screenplay Phantom Thread The Killing of a Sacred Deer Wind River
Best Adapted Screenplay It Thor: Ragnarok The Death of Stalin Dig Two Graves
Best Cinematography Phantom Thread A Ghost Story Wind River
Best Production Design What Happened to Monday The Bad Batch
I'll leave it there for now.
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Post by thomasjerome on Mar 16, 2018 15:00:03 GMT
FYC: Lead actor: Adam Sandler - Meyerowitz Stories Ben Stiller - Brad's Status Sam Elliot - The Hero
Lead actress: Aubrey Plaza - Ingrid Goes West Teresa Palmer - Berlin Syndrome
Supporting Actor: Hugh Grant - Paddington 2
Supporting Actress: Carla Juri - Blade Runner 2049 Elizabeth Olsen - Wind River
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Post by stephen on Mar 16, 2018 15:01:10 GMT
Where does You Were Never Really Here fall in eligibility? Because it's the one film I'm waiting to see before finalizing my lineups/ballot, and obviously I have to wait a few weeks.
EDIT: Never mind. Saw the note at the bottom. Guys, wait until you see Ramsay's film before voting!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2018 15:02:13 GMT
Best Actress
Vicky Krieps, Phantom Thread Best Original ScreenplayPhantom Thread you have my approval phantom thread in screenplay didnt need to be reminded tho, people are quoting it like crazy, especially on movie boards so but ya.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2018 15:05:06 GMT
FYC: Best Director and Best Adapted Screenplay
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Post by Johnny_Hellzapoppin on Mar 16, 2018 15:06:05 GMT
Best Actress
Vicky Krieps, Phantom Thread Best Original ScreenplayPhantom Thread you have my approval phantom thread in screenplay didnt need to be reminded tho, people are quoting it like crazy, especially on movie boards so but ya. Yeah, I tried to keep my FYCs to things not already jizzed over by Award Season proper, otherwise I'd have Phantom Thread in almost every category.
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Post by stephen on Mar 16, 2018 15:06:44 GMT
Where does You Were Never Really Here fall in eligibility? Because it's the one film I'm waiting to see before finalizing my lineups/ballot, and obviously I have to wait a few weeks. EDIT: Never mind. Saw the note at the bottom. Guys, wait until you see Ramsay's film before voting! Screw Amazon for pushing that to 2018. Part of me just thinks we should hold it off until next year. I don't know... Nah, let's get it in now because at least it'll be fresh in the minds of the voters if they hold off. Also, THE DEATH OF STALIN, people!
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Post by stephen on Mar 16, 2018 15:10:40 GMT
FYC: Harry Dean Stanton – Lucky Ryan Gosling – Blade Runner 2049 Simon Russell Beale – The Death of Stalin Will Poulter – Detroit Mark Hamill – Star Wars: The Last Jedi Jason Isaacs – The Death of Stalin David Lynch – Lucky Ana de Armas – Blade Runner 2049 Sophia Lillis – It
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Post by Johnny_Hellzapoppin on Mar 16, 2018 15:14:00 GMT
Screw Amazon for pushing that to 2018. Part of me just thinks we should hold it off until next year. I don't know... Nah, let's get it in now because at least it'll be fresh in the minds of the voters if they hold off. Also, THE DEATH OF STALIN, people! For ensemble alone, people need to get on this. It would be just odd if it wasn't in the lineup. Simon Russell Beale and its screenplay should really feature too.
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Post by JangoB on Mar 16, 2018 15:14:58 GMT
F Y C
THE LOST CITY OF Z - In every category but especially Picture, Director and Cinematography.
The Post - In every category (because I somehow think that it's a bit underrated/underseen)
Last Flag Flying - Cranston, Carell, Fishburne + Adapted Screenplay
Mudbound - Rob Morgan for Supporting Actor (easily the MVP)
Phantom Thread - BEST CINEMATOGRAPHY
Wonder Wheel - Best Actress and Best Cinematography
Thor: Ragnarok - Best Production Design & Best Costume Design
Logan - Best Actor + Best Make-Up Effects (!)
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Post by stephen on Mar 16, 2018 15:16:51 GMT
Nah, let's get it in now because at least it'll be fresh in the minds of the voters if they hold off. Also, THE DEATH OF STALIN, people! For ensemble alone, people need to get on this. It would be just odd if it wasn't in the lineup. Simon Russell Beale and its screenplay should really feature too. Goddamn right. If Beale misses, I'll pull a Dennis Reynolds.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2018 15:59:09 GMT
FYC
Happy End Best Picture Best Director Best Supporting Actor (Jean-Louis Trintignant) Best Ensemble Best Original Screenplay
The Square Best Picture Best Director Best Actor (Claes Bang) Best Original Screenplay
Lucky Best Picture Best Actor
The Meyerowitz Stories Best Picture Best Original Screenplay Best Actor (Adam Sandler) Best Supporting Actor (Dustin Hoffman) Best Supporting Actress (Elizabeth Marvel) Best Ensemble
The Killing of a Sacred Deer Best Picture Best Director Best Supporting Actor (Barry Keoghan) Best Original Screenplay
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Post by JangoB on Mar 16, 2018 16:02:05 GMT
Oh shit, another important FYC:
TATIANA MASLANY, STRONGER - BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS
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Post by idioticbunny on Mar 16, 2018 16:07:57 GMT
Hmm, I'm curious why only one nominee for the Debut and Soundtrack? Performer is okay as sometimes it's hard to really think of five people that had more than one film in a year, but Get Out will easily win Debut, I'd rather see what else we nominate, and there are so many great soundtracks last year alone. Up to you, obviously, I'm just curious as to your reasoning.
Will have many movies to see before I vote regardless.
FYC:
Blade Runner 2049 for everything. The Work. Hounds of Love. Ingrid Goes West. Raw. LA 92.
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Post by mhynson27 on Mar 16, 2018 16:08:17 GMT
Will do more throughout the next month and a half but for now the first FYC that comes to mind, this creepy mofo:
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Post by stephen on Mar 16, 2018 18:52:00 GMT
Hmm, I'm curious why only one nominee for the Debut and Soundtrack? Performer is okay as sometimes it's hard to really think of five people that had more than one film in a year, but Get Out will easily win Debut, I'd rather see what else we nominate, and there are so many great soundtracks last year alone. Up to you, obviously, I'm just curious as to your reasoning. I pretty much just put those bottom 3 in there for fun. I will take however many are mentioned a decent amount of times (anywhere from 3-5) and those will be the nominees. Also, let's not underestimate just how many people here are meh on Get Out. That's why we need to rally around Lucky.
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Mar 16, 2018 19:42:10 GMT
Why only seven nominations for the acting categories and five for the screenplays?
And I guess it's too late to raise this concern, but I wish we had stuck with the US release date for eligibility. Just on the basis that A TON of films that are eligible for the 2017 slate (that won't be eligible next year) haven't surfaced in the US yet. I go by country-of-origin release date for myself because I'm a stickler about that stuff, but it doesn't make sense for this kind of venue where there are potentially lots of voters (most of which are US-based) and a deadline. I imagine a lot of folks on this board would love You Were Never Really Here (I know I will), but I doubt it'll get many votes because no one's seen it yet. That's a shame, because it won't be eligible by these standards next year when more people would have seen it. Going by US release date for the ICCs kept more of these films from falling through the cracks. I don't know why we couldn't have just kept the same structure and slap a different name on it.
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Post by stephen on Mar 16, 2018 19:45:26 GMT
Why only seven nominations for the acting categories and five for the screenplays? And I guess it's too late to raise this concern, but I wish we had stuck with the US release date for eligibility. Just on the basis that A TON of films that are eligible for the 2017 slate (that won't be eligible next year) haven't surfaced in the US yet. I go by country-of-origin release date for myself because I'm a stickler about that stuff, but it doesn't make sense for this kind of venue where there are potentially lots of voters (most of which are US-based) and a deadline. I imagine a lot of folks on this board would love You Were Never Really Here (I know I will), but I doubt it'll get many votes because no one's seen it yet. That's a shame, because it won't be eligible by these standards next year when more people would have seen it. Going by US release date for the ICCs kept more of these films from falling through the cracks. You Were Never Really Here comes out in a couple of weeks stateside, so provided that voters hold off on their ballots until they see it (which I think most will), we should be fine. It's far more preferable to it being lost in the shuffle if we held off till next year for it. Also, going by the U.S. release date causes issues like Army of Shadows being eligible for the 2006 AMARAs despite it being made in 1969.
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Mar 16, 2018 19:50:10 GMT
Why only seven nominations for the acting categories and five for the screenplays? And I guess it's too late to raise this concern, but I wish we had stuck with the US release date for eligibility. Just on the basis that A TON of films that are eligible for the 2017 slate (that won't be eligible next year) haven't surfaced in the US yet. I go by country-of-origin release date for myself because I'm a stickler about that stuff, but it doesn't make sense for this kind of venue where there are potentially lots of voters (most of which are US-based) and a deadline. I imagine a lot of folks on this board would love You Were Never Really Here (I know I will), but I doubt it'll get many votes because no one's seen it yet. That's a shame, because it won't be eligible by these standards next year when more people would have seen it. Going by US release date for the ICCs kept more of these films from falling through the cracks. You Were Never Really Here comes out in a couple of weeks stateside, so provided that voters hold off on their ballots until they see it (which I think most will), we should be fine. It's far more preferable to it being lost in the shuffle if we held off till next year for it. Also, going by the U.S. release date causes issues like Army of Shadows being eligible for the 2006 AMARAs despite it being made in 1969. well it's a good thing we're not going back in time to 2006 And I don't think it would have gotten lost in the shuffle at all if it really is a good film. April releases aren't early enough in the year to be forgettable. Grand Budapest Hotel wasn't lost in the shuffle in 2014. Also, not everyone will be able to see You Were Never Really Here in theaters... I don't know. The idea of having to squeeze in an April release for a voting deadline covering films released the previous year doesn't make sense to me, because the movie will be too fresh on the mind. Imagine if Academy members had to submit their votes by December 31st.
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Post by stephen on Mar 16, 2018 19:51:37 GMT
You Were Never Really Here comes out in a couple of weeks stateside, so provided that voters hold off on their ballots until they see it (which I think most will), we should be fine. It's far more preferable to it being lost in the shuffle if we held off till next year for it. Also, going by the U.S. release date causes issues like Army of Shadows being eligible for the 2006 AMARAs despite it being made in 1969. well it's a good thing we're not going back in time to 2006 And I don't think it would have gotten lost in the shuffle at all if it really is a good film. April releases aren't early enough in the year to be forgettable. Grand Budapest Hotel wasn't lost in the shuffle in 2014. Also, not everyone will be able to see You Were Never Really Here in theaters... We are, though. We're going to be doing older years. Not everyone will be able to see You Were Never Really Here in theaters, but enough will (and have) that it should be able to make a dent. It's just that people need to think of it as an eligible contender in order to do so, rather than fob it off into 2018.
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Post by pendragon on Mar 16, 2018 20:10:23 GMT
Where does You Were Never Really Here fall in eligibility? Because it's the one film I'm waiting to see before finalizing my lineups/ballot, and obviously I have to wait a few weeks. EDIT: Never mind. Saw the note at the bottom. Guys, wait until you see Ramsay's film before voting! Screw Amazon for pushing that to 2018. Part of me just thinks we should hold it off until next year. I don't know... Well, if you want to go by its UK release date, since it's mostly a British film.
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Post by coop032 on Mar 16, 2018 20:15:43 GMT
Why only seven nominations for the acting categories and five for the screenplays? And I guess it's too late to raise this concern, but I wish we had stuck with the US release date for eligibility. Just on the basis that A TON of films that are eligible for the 2017 slate (that won't be eligible next year) haven't surfaced in the US yet. I go by country-of-origin release date for myself because I'm a stickler about that stuff, but it doesn't make sense for this kind of venue where there are potentially lots of voters (most of which are US-based) and a deadline. I imagine a lot of folks on this board would love You Were Never Really Here (I know I will), but I doubt it'll get many votes because no one's seen it yet. That's a shame, because it won't be eligible by these standards next year when more people would have seen it. Going by US release date for the ICCs kept more of these films from falling through the cracks. You Were Never Really Here comes out in a couple of weeks stateside, so provided that voters hold off on their ballots until they see it (which I think most will), we should be fine. It's far more preferable to it being lost in the shuffle if we held off till next year for it. Also, going by the U.S. release date causes issues like Army of Shadows being eligible for the 2006 AMARAs despite it being made in 1969. My only problem with us going by the year they first premiered is a number of films will hardly be seen by anyone until after that are no longer eligible. If You Were Never Really Here was only eligible for 2017 and we held this thing right now it will never be honored by us.
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Mar 16, 2018 20:27:41 GMT
Is You Were Never Really Here the only film that is going to be affected by these rules? a couple others off the top of my head are Paddington 2 and The Death of Stalin. But there will undoubtedly be complications next year too if we stick to this standard. The Lobster would have been an issue in 2015, and that was a popular film with MA. I remember I was among the few that actually saw it in 2015, but it wouldn't have stood a chance at the ICCs if we were going by country-of-origin release. No one was really able to weigh in on the structure for previous years. We sorta just jumped in. Either way, it doesn't matter as much for previous years because the films that would have been affected ( The Hunt, for starters) have already been widely seen.
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Post by coop032 on Mar 16, 2018 20:29:00 GMT
Is You Were Never Really Here the only film that is going to be affected by these rules? I mean, for me personally I'm definitely consider it a 2018 release. I just made the rules what they are to keep consistent with what pendragon is doing for previous years. I didn't really agree with doing it that way on it either, but at least going backwards everything will have the chance to be seen. Going forward we'll run into these problems every year. I'm guessing there are plenty of other films that will be affected. For the 2016 nominations I had to leave off a number that are "2015" such as The Lobster, Tale of Tales, A Bigger Splash, and The Dressmaker. Going by how we're doing this, none of those would ever have a chance but at least going backwards they can be voted for in 2015.
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