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Post by stabcaesar on Apr 26, 2021 12:51:08 GMT
She didn't deserve a third Oscar win. #CancelFrancesMcDormand Can you just go away? Is this the same guy that hates Regina King like she had killed his puppy?
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Post by Mattsby on May 12, 2021 0:54:46 GMT
I don't think he's been mentioned yet: Claude Rains “He acted with striking versatility and the London stage suffered a great loss when he deserted it for the motion pictures.” That's a quote from John Gielgud, talking about his former teacher. Yes... Claude Rains, in the mid 1920s, taught and mentored at the famous Royal Academy of Dramatic Art.... his students included Gielgud, Charles Laughton, Olivier, etc. This was before his breakthru in the movies, the title role in The Invisible Man. He was 43y/o when it was released but it was only the beginning, this visible talent would become one of the greatest character actors ever? 4x Oscar nominee - nobody has broken his Supporting Actor record since the '40s, some fellas have tied it... Jeff Bridges, Jack Nicholson, Duvall, Pacino. I mean that's some company. Tony winner (1951), he appeared in 18 Broadway plays and plenty more before that over in London. And then there's the movies. He's in a buffet of classics.... Invisible Man, Wolf Man, Adventures of Robin Hood, Mr Smith Goes to Washington, Casablanca, Notorious, Lawrence of Arabia, etc. He doesn't just dabble in these movies either - he's excellent in them. He often thrived in elegantly conniving parts, and flamboyant, intelligent, high class characters. He's very good and quite varied across his five Alfred Hitchcock Presents episodes (Diamond Necklace and Riabouchinska being the two best). And there's a lot of underrated perfs... The Man Who Reclaimed His Head (a soft, sad side), Deception (scandalously funny, he saves the movie), Angel on My Shoulder (outacting Paul Muni), The Passionate Friends, Where Danger Lives etc. I could just list his filmography. Any fans? Anyone think he undermined his own talent by remaining in Hollywood?
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Post by Mattsby on May 22, 2021 19:41:27 GMT
Unmentioned, curveball add : Ruth Gordon Glenn Close said: “Ruth exulted in life. Her generosity of spirit made it obvious to me that we had in our midst one of the greatest of them all.” Idk if anyone ranks her so highly (or as highly as Glenn!) but she is interesting. Oscar winner (Rosemary's Baby), Emmy winner (Taxi).... She was a Tony nominee (The Matchmaker) but more than that.... She did almost 40 Broadway plays (incl Chekhov, Ibsen) and was a stage star for a while. She headlined a show with previous-post Claude Rains in 1934. Her studio contracts didn't yield much, tho she acted in a handful of movies in the '40s she quit pretty soon, sticking to the stage and a pivot to screenwriting - she wrote 5 George Cukor movies, with 3 Oscar noms, and even a biopic where she is played by Jean Simmons! But then she returned to the movies after nearly 25 years to an immediate Oscar nom (Inside Daisy Clover). And for such a chinny, delightful little actress...She found a way to fit into other genres, horror (Rosemary's, W/E Happened To Aunt Alice, some TV Movie thrillers), and the classic romantic Harold and Maude of course. I haven't seen much else but s/o to her Columbo guest star perf.
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Post by Mattsby on May 23, 2021 20:51:20 GMT
Lillian Gish - We have a lot of fans here demille cranly ibbi idioticbunny - she’s a major actress and we haven’t mentioned her once in over three years of the thread. C’mon people !! “And so, in a single night, Lillian Gish has made herself the most interesting actress on our stage” - one drama critic said while reviewing Uncle Vanya (1930) which was produced by “the wolf of Broadway” Jed Harris (who Olivier modeled his Richard III after). And to bring some connection to our posts - Jed was Ruth Gordon’s lover at the time and she brought Lillian to him for Vanya…. Ruth even kinda coached and ran lines with Gish who was nervous in her big comeback. That’s right, in 1930, Gish was making a comeback after a 17-year absence on the stage. She went on to do 18 more Broadway plays, including Shakespeare, the original Trip to Bountiful, and a starry Uncle Vanya again in 1973 under Mike Nichols alongside George C Scott, Nicol Williamson, Julie Christie! As for TV nothing so well known but she did do over 25 programs/tv movies, tho many of them are hard to find. I recently watched her Hitchcock Hour ep Body in the Barn where we see her ability between force and fragility, an almost ethereal emotional line that she of course had mastered in the Silent era and all those classics. I need to catch up on some of those Silents. Great role in masterpiece The Night of the Hunter, and special mention to The Whales of August, what a beautiful going-out perf. Ebert is right when he said at 93 she seemed still girlish and capable and revelatory. He relates a story that the director told Gish one day how wonderfully she just performed in a closeup, and Bette Davis chimed in, “She should…She invented them.” Thoughts on "The First Lady of American Cinema" - Any particular fav perfs?
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Post by pacinoyes on May 23, 2021 21:11:50 GMT
Lillian Gish - We have a lot of fans here - she’s a major actress and we haven’t mentioned her once in over three years of the thread. C’mon people !! She's barely in Portrait of Jennie (1948) but she makes the entire movie in a way.......singular kind of movie too
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Post by Mattsby on Jul 13, 2021 19:37:58 GMT
Some post-Emmys tallying update - Jean Smart - 9 unique noms now! She ties Glenn Close, Jessica Lange. Who has more? Cicely Tyson and Julie Harris have 10.... and tied for most with 12..... : Colleen Dewhurst, Kathy Bates, and queen Judy Davis. John Lithgow - 8 unique noms now! He ties Olivier, James Garner, Charles Durning, Hal Holbrook, William H Macy, and king George C Scott. Who has more? Alan Alda has 9... and, well, I can't find anyone with more per perf noms... Beau Bridges with a whopping 14 (altho, 7 are for Guest -- cheater?) Other important updates: Morgan Freeman gets his first acting Emmy nom! Don Cheadle, surprisingly, gets his 7th unique nom! Winslet - her 3rd nom!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2021 20:52:11 GMT
Jean Smart - 9 unique noms now! She ties Glenn Close, Jessica Lange. Who has more? Cicely Tyson and Julie Harris have 10.... and tied for most with 12..... : Colleen Dewhurst, Kathy Bates, and queen Judy Davis. Alfre Woodard has to be the actress with the most acting Emmy nods, right? She has 17 nominations.
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Post by Mattsby on Jul 13, 2021 21:14:15 GMT
Jean Smart - 9 unique noms now! She ties Glenn Close, Jessica Lange. Who has more? Cicely Tyson and Julie Harris have 10.... and tied for most with 12..... : Colleen Dewhurst, Kathy Bates, and queen Judy Davis. Alfre Woodard has to be the actress with the most acting Emmy nods, right? She has 17 nominations. Omg! How did I miss her… I love Alfre. I searched for actors myself so there’ll def be some forgottens
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Post by sirjeremy on Jul 13, 2021 21:44:33 GMT
Jean Smart - 9 unique noms now! She ties Glenn Close, Jessica Lange. Who has more? Cicely Tyson and Julie Harris have 10.... and tied for most with 12..... : Colleen Dewhurst, Kathy Bates, and queen Judy Davis. Alfre Woodard has to be the actress with the most acting Emmy nods, right? She has 17 nominations. I think the record is still held by the late Cloris Leachman, who received a staggering 23 Emmy nominations in her career, 19 for acting, and of those 19, 11 were unique.
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Post by stephen on Jul 13, 2021 23:26:21 GMT
Alfre Woodard has to be the actress with the most acting Emmy nods, right? She has 17 nominations. I think the record is still held by the late Cloris Leachman, who received a staggering 23 Emmy nominations in her career, 19 for acting, and of those 19, 11 were unique. I still think Cloris should still keep racking up nominations for decades to come.
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Post by Mattsby on Jul 24, 2021 0:42:27 GMT
Don't think we've mentioned Woody Harrelson yet? Today is his 60th BDAY! Even though he's been consistently present on screens since the mid 80s, it's kinda surprising to think of him as grandpa-old.... He has a charming, childlike up-to-something personality that makes him come off younger.... but then he has quite a lot of serious perfs and he's an underrated grappler - he's tackled some pretty daring endeavors and he's worked a lot with a lot of success across project types. Emmy winner and 8x nominee (Cheers, Game Change, True Detective), 3x Oscar nominee (Larry Flynt, The Messenger, 3 Billboards). He's acted in, and directed, several stage plays to mixed acclaim - The Rainmaker (Broadway), Night of the Iguana (West End), etc - though no major triumph there, he has dabbled, with extra nods to live performance in his Archie Bunker and bio-bite/mea culpa Lost in London that achieved the "live cinema" idea that Coppola has been teasing for a decade. Put him into an ensemble (NCFOM, Prairie Home Companion), a buddy movie (White Men Can't Jump), a burning character study (Rampart), or any of those many blockbusters he's in.... he gels with enjoyable chemistry opposite anybody you throw at him. There's growth too... one of the great airheads of tv in Cheers, who could see the intense, conflicted gears of True Detective in his future? Coming up.... he's in the next Ruben Ostlund, and HBO mini White House Plumbers. Thoughts? fav favs? underrated perfs?
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Post by thomasjerome on Jul 24, 2021 2:22:57 GMT
Thoughts? fav favs? underrated perfs? Love him. Sure, there's a certain "Woody Harrelson part" - in things like "Zombieland" and "Now You See Me", his trademark style becomes more obvious but his range is actually amazing. You buy him as this naive guy in "Transsiberian", as a noir lead in "Palmetto" and also as a Natural Born Killer. Indeed, he always manages to find a great chemistry with his co-stars; he's usually more goofy one of the two ("Money Train", "The Cowboy Way") but it always works. What's great about him is that he's equally impressive in both dramas and comedies. He almost steals the show with such brief appearances in "Wag the Dog" and "Anger Management" - he's hilarious in them both. The writing is not even good, borderline offensive with his scenes in the later one but it's just his mannerisms, the way he talks and acts makes it all amusing. That's what is so special about him; he can elevate the material. On dramatic side, his first scene in "Seven Pounds" is not well-written, it's overly sentimental ("it's blue.. sir") but he makes it work somehow, the way he delivers the lines turns it into something more... realistic, I don't know how to describe it but his performance stays with you. At least it stayed with me. I wanna give a shout-out to his own "Lost in London", that U2 video, his excellent turn in a rather weak Schrader effort "The Walker" but most of all to "Defendor" - a film where he manages to be both funny and heartbreaking, tough and soft all the same time. Just a beautiful performance all around.
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Post by pacinoyes on Jul 24, 2021 7:53:42 GMT
Don't think we've mentioned Woody Harrelson yet? Thoughts? fav favs? underrated perfs? I don't have any odd performances or anything - but he is really great at doing something that I think he has carved out a little niche with...... and that's the sort of "amused ..........yet deeper/dual line readings"..........you see this in 2 of his most famous roles in little scenes - and they are an example of an actor conveying the script to us BY their acting: In The People Vs. Larry Flynt it's in the scene where he reads something in Playboy about an expensive stereo ad and how Playboy has lost touch with the average guy ie they were a porn magazine and now they are a rich lifestyle brand .......it's a hilarious scene and scarily played because no one else would notice that except Larry Flynt- that's the point of the scene - and its played very shrewdly for full comic effect..........because he has a contempt for hypocrisy (in this case the hypocrisy of Playboy) - another actor would just play it for laughs........Harrelson gets the bigger point in the script....and leaves it to us to draw the connection between that scene and the bigger hypocrisy later in the movie....... The other one is shorter and more throwaway but it's in NCFOM when Stephen Root (iirc) asks him "How dangerous is Chigurh?" and his character responds, marvelously deadpan "Compared to what?" The bubonic plague? ............that's a great line and it's delivered like it is ......but again it's not JUST funny..............because it defines both characters - ie yeah he is dangerous af and.........whatever I'd kill him anyway .......I'm not scared.........I love the way he reads that line........ That sort of removed ironic dual meaning detachment is played a lot by Harrelson in his roles and in each example a lesser actor would read in a more flat way that undercuts the scripts ................It's just a little thing but he does this a lot .......
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Post by stephen on Jul 24, 2021 14:11:49 GMT
Gotta love Woody.
In terms of his best performance, I have to side with Rampart. Brutally sleazy, scuzzy work that fits perfectly in Ellroy's fractured milieu. The film around him is flawed as hell, but Harrelson damn sure isn't. Shame that the film's legacy is more for its disastrous AMA than Harrelson's work.
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Post by pacinoyes on Jul 26, 2021 13:07:13 GMT
Just to keep the thread current.........Now that we have some festival movement time to cover some big 3 film/stage/tv big guns we've covered in this thread before ............and of course we'll update the others with a presence in all 3 mediums just like last years big winners Hopkins & McDormand. There are some big guns coming too : Blanchett and Driver for two and we may get trailers for both their next films fairly soonish: Frances McDormand - The Tragedy of Macbeth - Not just a Triple Crown winner and awards horse but she's played this role onstage too Denzel Washington - There are only 4 men - ever - who can say they have at least 6 Oscar nominations and at least 2 Tony nominations: Washington (8 and 2), Lemmon (8 and 2), Burton (7 and 3) and Pacino (9 and 3). Benedict Cumberbatch - This is what I said about him 3 years ago in this thread when he was already the worlds best actor on TV at 42.......: May 11, 2018 7:55:25 GMT -4 pacinoyes said:
.......... "To add another current actors name to this list - Benedict Cumberbatch debuts in his Patrick Melrose mini-series this weekend and a possible 2nd Emmy for him (he's a perennial nominee, a force on TV). He doesn't have a Tony (no appearances) but does have an Olivier (for his great Danny Boyle's Frankenstein turn which I saw in its filmed version show in movie theaters)."
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Post by Mattsby on Sept 9, 2021 1:13:11 GMT
One to add is a sort of "American" in reverse for the theater - an American who triumphed in the UK on stage: Kathleen TurnerA major film star in the 80s she burst on to the screen like a lightning blot in Body Heat. She returned to theater much later and she did the opposite of a UK actress coming to New York and she went to London - nabbing an Olivier nomination in the re-boot of Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf? Twice Tony nominated - and once Oscar nominated she could be due for a big return having signed on for some episodes of The Kominsky Method opposite for on-screen partner Michael Douglas. So far she's done some TV but not and this could be a chance to raise her visibility too. Some more hats off to Turner. Her stage career is so impressive, and surprising. Just last decade she did almost a dozen plays - Broadway, off-, regional, West End, and opera?! yup a 2019 speaking part in La Fille du Régiment at the Met Opera. Looking forward, her tv work is ramping up - bigger role in Kominsky Method S3, currently in Impeachment for FX (as judge Susan Webber Wright), and soon The White House Plumbers for HBO (as Dita Beard, "a hard-drinking, foul-mouthed, chain-smoking dealmaker in Washington"). Side note, I've never forgotten her bit on Californication, very good fun in that one.
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Post by pacinoyes on Sept 12, 2021 23:23:45 GMT
To add another current actors name to this list - Benedict Cumberbatch debuts in his Patrick Melrose mini-series this weekend and a possible 2nd Emmy for him (he's a perennial nominee, a force on TV). He doesn't have a Tony (no appearances) but does have an Olivier (for his great Danny Boyle's Frankenstein turn which I saw in its filmed version show in movie theaters). He has played a much praised Hamlet, would make a fine Macbeth you would think........... meanwhile his movie career has started to turn into, watch me cash in, and appear in comic book stuff etc.He's only 42.......lots to be done......but I'm not sure how he'd go about doing it(?)Just a flashback to BC in this thread - from 3 years ago - when we talked about him - he was the world's best "TV actor" (maybe) had proven himself on stage ......had an Oscar nomination but wasn't a name on the top of the list for actors........this year whether he wins or not, he's revolutionized his film career. He got the role he needed - exactly when he needed it too ^ - now he's 45.......and it's a whole new world of film opportunities for him you would think......
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Post by stephen on Sept 20, 2021 11:50:25 GMT
Colman's a fascinating case to watch unfold. Her television pedigree is stupendous. Arguably the most versatile actress alive when it comes to charting her catalogue, as she has conquered both comedy and drama in equal measure across the pond. Broadchurch, even when it got stupid, still gave her incredible material to work with and she made a strong case for being the best actress on a dramatic series while it was on. What held her back from the Emmy was just the fact that they rarely spring for a series that isn't on a major American network (and I think it says a lot that when they remade it with Tennant and not her, it flopped miserably). On the comedic end, Peep Show made her a legend and she's great fun in things like Twenty Twelve and what little I've seen of Fleabag. Colman was always someone who had the talent to make it big. She just needed the role to cross over, because she's worked with a deceptively huge amount of Hollywood over the last decade, and she's a national treasure in the UK. Now you'll see her standing continue to grow, and I think that she was incorrect when she told her kids during that Oscar speech that "it was not going to happen again." I think Colman's definitely got the skill set, versatility and hunger to be a multiple nominee and, perhaps, a multiple winner. EDIT: I didn't even mention The Crown, which may very well lock her down the Emmy and have her a Tony away from a Triple Crown, and Colman definitely seems the sort to go to the stage (probably when her kids get older). With this and the raves she's getting for The Lost Daughter, this train ain't slowing down for nobody.
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Post by pacinoyes on Sept 20, 2021 13:47:35 GMT
I definitely wanted to update this thread and bring it back as we get through the awards shows and we had Olivia Colman get close to a Triple Crown (needs the Tony) we'll update her to at some point....some others too. Today I wanted to look at Denzel Washington in Tragedy of Macbeth since that premieres this Friday and we will see a trailer (or should A24 (come on, wtf) this week). In some ways he IS the Anthony Hopkins of 2021 in theory - a theater actor bringing his theater craft to a big movie in a film adaptation of a play. Denzel Washington - covered earlier also here - is not only a special actor - he's a special actor that you don't often "get" from his "supporters" here on MAR tbh: One of only 4 male actors with at least 6 Oscar nominations and 2 Tony nominations (along with Lemmon, Burton, Pacino) he is also one of the very few actors who would attempt Macbeth in 2021 at all - surprising to some after a career that maybe didn't have the versatility on film he was capable of (something like a ridiculous 13 or so cop roles or de facto cop roles hnder his film resume). To others who know his work - it seems perfectly reasonable and logical even. Washington is 2/3rds of the way to the Triple Crown himself (like Colman, Mark Rylance, Hopkins etc.)- he had several seasons on St. Elsewhere in the 80s and some TV movies then too ......and if he achieves the Triple Crown now - post-film stardom - he would be just the 2nd African American to win it (along with his co-star Viola Davis - the only one to achieve it atm).......Washington also has a chance to win a 3rd Oscar (no jinx!) or enter the 9 nominee Oscar club if he gets nodded this year. Like all the major American stage actors who are also film stars - his great advantage in this role may be not just his background in Shakespeare but his ability with speeches - long monologues are a theater actor's great weapon: All the previous big-time theater actors - American actors in particular - who did both mediums a lot - Henry Fonda, Jason Robards, George C. Scott, Pacino, PSH etc. - had that skill set in their arsenal..... Washington is one of the best at handling speeches / monologues of his entire era: Will he be a great Macbeth? ............possibly.........will he handle the speeches beautifully.........that is almost without question - definitely. Tragedy of Macbeth has its premiere Friday September 24 @ NYFF
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2021 13:14:37 GMT
The mutual admiration.
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Post by stephen on Sept 22, 2021 13:23:19 GMT
We don't talk about him enough, but Tony Shalhoub is a goddamn legend. His television cred is unimpeachable. Monk was an iconic role for him and he played it to the hilt, and it's one of those rare performances that rests on a gimmick but doesn't "feel" gimmicky in the least. Even when the show started to run a little long in the tooth, he still was deft and fresh. His comic turn on Wings is hilarious as well, and while I haven't seen much of The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel, he's evidently beloved in it. His film career is studded with strong projects -- he was a Coen staple, he's brilliant in one of the finest '90s ensembles in Galaxy Quest (seriously, watch what he's doing next time you see this movie; I think it might be his best work), he's a hoot in Men in Black. Even in lesser fare, he still shines. Definitely one of those character actors due a supporting actor run for something great. When Dafoe gets his prize, let's make Tony our next priority. His stage work is strong, too. Four Tony nods with a win (in a musical, no less!).
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Post by pacinoyes on Sept 26, 2021 8:59:34 GMT
Tonight Jake Gyllenhaal could win his first Triple Crown Award - ever - the Tony - for the ‘Sea Wall / A Life’ - which I actually saw him in way back BEFORE Covid. Gyllenhaal is loved by a lot of people on here and I always like him but have only loved him once (Nightcrawler)........to me he's an always good / rarely great actor ...........I have seen him twice onstage with good but not great results there too and Gyllenhaal would not be the favorite to win tonight. But he easily COULD win and he's only 40 (turns 41 in December)......a Tony winning role would make him the sole legitimate American "movie star" (sorry Bryan Cranston!) of his generation - with a Tony: the way Pacino is for the 70s actors and Spacey and Washington (and Kline) are for the 80s.......they are the 4 living American men with an Oscar and a Tony (off the top of my head) .........it would be huge if he wins because if he stays a film star winning an Oscar is if not unlikely for him......that's certainly attainable. A win tonight, he's halfway there to joining the men above ^........and 1/3 of the way to a Triple Crown - and you could see him winning an Emmy down the road too......
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Post by pacinoyes on Sept 28, 2021 10:44:38 GMT
Next up on this Academy Award threat is actually the most interesting name of anyone in the running in 2021 - Bradley Cooper - who has a chance for 2 nominations but if he's great in Lead (Nightmare Alley) - would he even "want" the Supporting win in Licorice Pizza (he'd take it though!) - which is far more likely for him than beating the current 1 and 2 in Lead (though Cumberbatch could spin into #2 if TPoTD builds momentum possibly /doubtful imo). Cooper is the definition of this idea that Oscar nominations MAKE you be considered a "great actor" - if he gets 1 nod he's 5.......2 nods he's got 6......many people don't consider him a great actor but 5 or (gulp) 6 nominations at 47 (turns 47 in January) - are a kind of shorthand for making an argument for him. He may rewrite the Oscar + Tony metrics - he gets to 6 Oscar nominations + a Tony nomination in 10 years - he surpasses Pacino and Richard Burton with 7 nods in 10 years (Pacino has 7 in 11, Burton 7 in 12) and even with just a single nod he still rivals them but falls just slightly short..........the only way he loses is if he misses for both. Stakes are high .... Cooper in The Elephant Man and in his lead role this year, the remake of Nightmare Alley
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2021 13:17:13 GMT
An updated list of the living actors who have been nominated for all three TC awards, but with no wins in any of them...
Antonio Banderas Annette Bening Tom Courtenay Adam Driver Ed Harris Anna Kendrick Kate Nelligan Stephen Rea* Sam Waterston Sigourney Weaver
*Rea was nominated for a Daytime Emmy
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Post by Mattsby on Sept 30, 2021 19:02:10 GMT
An updated list of the living actors who have been nominated for all three TC awards, but with no wins in any of them... Antonio Banderas Annette Bening Tom Courtenay Adam Driver Ed Harris Anna Kendrick Kate Nelligan Stephen Rea* Sam Waterston Sigourney Weaver *Rea was nominated for a Daytime Emmy That's an interesting bunch. Most surprising are Bening and Ed Harris.... they seem like they would have one by now. And they've won SAG/BAFTA/Golden Globes for some of their unwon Oscar/Emmy perfs. Jacknife (1989) gotta lil GG nom but that's an Oscar caliber perf. My favs of the bunch, tho, are Courtenay and Sigourney Weaver. Love them.
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