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Post by notacrook on Feb 21, 2017 19:18:01 GMT
Who of the acting nominees this year do not deserve to be there in your opinion?
I'd say: Michael Shannon - what a boring, nothing performance. Octavia Spencer - not bad, but completely forgettable and the weakest of that movie's trio. Andrew Garfield - he was much better in Silence.
I can't comment on Streep or Mortensen, as they are the two I haven't seen yet. Everyone else was great and earned their place.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2017 19:41:18 GMT
Fuck you on the Shannon mention.
Garfield deserved a nom, for Silence tho.
Not any other problem TBH. There might be wrong winners tho.
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Post by notacrook on Feb 21, 2017 19:56:09 GMT
Fuck you on the Shannon mention. Haha, I really wanted to like him, but it really feels like he's sleepwalking through the movie. The love for his performance truly baffles me.
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Post by bkguy182 on Feb 21, 2017 19:56:39 GMT
gosling hedges spenser patel
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Post by DingoMatty on Feb 21, 2017 20:13:17 GMT
There are plenty I don't nominate, but the only three I would say are completely undeserved are:
Andrew Garfield, Hacksaw Ridge (I concur with whoever said he deserved to be nominated for Silence, which is a considerably better performance; in Hacksaw Ridge, he was very, very ho hum, and easily the worst acting nominee this year)
Dev Patel, Lion (firstly, he's lead, not supporting; secondly, aside from mastering the accent, he's not particularly great)
Ryan Gosling, La La Land (the other three lead actor nominees are so exceptional that Garfield and Gosling stick out like sore thumbs; Gosling has been so much better before, this very one-note performance just reeks of filler nominee being swept into contention because of how strong the film is)
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Post by Zeb31 on Feb 21, 2017 20:25:12 GMT
Only seen 15/20, but:
Andrew Garfield. I imagine he's probably better in Silence, but dude was wildly inconsistent here. Goes from embarrassing to great in the span of two scenes. Script does him no favors, but his constant Gump-like grinning gets annoying after 30 seconds.
Meryl Streep. She's okay, but it's such a waste of a nomination. Nothing special at all (which also goes for her film).
Dev Patel. I don't usually use the term "nothing performance", but if any of the nominees I've seen deserves it, it's him. Absolutely nothing memorable about it, and adult Saroo is pretty shoddily written. Ali's is the only nominee in this category that I'm yet to see, but I can't imagine he's as much of a non-starter as Patel. Sunny Pawar is the one who deserves awards attention (and Kidman, who's lovely even in spite of how underwritten her character is as well).
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Post by thomasjerome on Feb 21, 2017 20:36:13 GMT
Spencer, Patel, Gosling
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Post by DeepArcher on Feb 21, 2017 21:01:45 GMT
Andrew Garfield. He's fine in Hacksaw Ridge, but he's my win for Silence. Meryl Streep. She does nothing special, and is often rather grating. Isabelle Huppert. She's alright, but didn't "wow" me. Adams and Bening were way more deserving of being in here. Dev Patel. He's good, but Sunny Pawar is so much better. Michael Shannon. I find it really odd that Tom Ford didn't notice that he was asleep in front of the camera. Octavia Spencer. Just an okay performance, certainly not Oscar-worthy.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2017 21:08:19 GMT
Garfield, Hacksaw Ridge- unless he was the only one who knew the film was a comedy, then he's the best nomination ever Spencer, Hidden Figures- over the likes of Gerwig, Gladstone, Shannon, Monae is shameful Negga, Loving- I cant be too mad but she shouldnt have happened over Bening, Adams, Hall Streep, Florence Foster Jenkins- no
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Post by cheesecake on Feb 21, 2017 21:16:29 GMT
Only seen 15/20, but: Andrew Garfield. I imagine he's probably better in Silence, but dude was wildly inconsistent here. Goes from embarrassing to great in the span of two scenes. Script does him no favors, but his constant Gump-like grinning gets annoying after 30 seconds. Meryl Streep. She's okay, but it's such a waste of a nomination. Nothing special at all (which also goes for her film). Dev Patel. I don't usually use the term "nothing performance", but if any of the nominees I've seen deserves it, it's him. Absolutely nothing memorable about it, and adult Saroo is pretty shoddily written. Ali's is the only nominee in this category that I'm yet to see, but I can't imagine he's as much of a non-starter as Patel. Sunny Pawar is the one who deserves awards attention (and Kidman, who's lovely even in spite of how underwritten her character is as well). Pawar is just incredible. Such a shame he didn't get any traction.
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Post by ScarletDubois on Feb 21, 2017 21:20:46 GMT
Stone, Streep, Gosling, Patel (who I consider lead but isn't deserving in either category), Spencer.
I haven't seen Moonlight or Fences.
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Post by HELENA MARIA on Feb 21, 2017 21:21:48 GMT
Hedges / Streep / Spencer / Garfield
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Post by notacrook on Feb 21, 2017 21:46:24 GMT
Andrew Garfield. He's fine in Hacksaw Ridge, but he's my win for Silence. Meryl Streep. She does nothing special, and is often rather grating. Isabelle Huppert. She's alright, but didn't "wow" me. Adams and Bening were way more deserving of being in here. Dev Patel. He's good, but Sunny Pawar is so much better. Michael Shannon. I find it really odd that Tom Ford didn't notice that he was asleep in front of the camera. Octavia Spencer. Just an okay performance, certainly not Oscar-worthy. Wow, Huppert? She's hands down my favourite nominated performance. I'm also surprised at how many people are mentioning Patel. He's not amazing or anything, but I did think he was very good and am totally fine with his nomination.
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Post by Kirk-Picard on Feb 21, 2017 21:49:27 GMT
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Post by Zeb31 on Feb 21, 2017 21:51:17 GMT
Only seen 15/20, but: Andrew Garfield. I imagine he's probably better in Silence, but dude was wildly inconsistent here. Goes from embarrassing to great in the span of two scenes. Script does him no favors, but his constant Gump-like grinning gets annoying after 30 seconds. Meryl Streep. She's okay, but it's such a waste of a nomination. Nothing special at all (which also goes for her film). Dev Patel. I don't usually use the term "nothing performance", but if any of the nominees I've seen deserves it, it's him. Absolutely nothing memorable about it, and adult Saroo is pretty shoddily written. Ali's is the only nominee in this category that I'm yet to see, but I can't imagine he's as much of a non-starter as Patel. Sunny Pawar is the one who deserves awards attention (and Kidman, who's lovely even in spite of how underwritten her character is as well). Pawar is just incredible. Such a shame he didn't get any traction. He carries the first half beautifully.
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Post by alexanderblanchett on Feb 21, 2017 22:21:03 GMT
Well I don't quite get Olivia Spencer's nom.
But there are others I don't agree with but that at least don't bother me.
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Post by Mustard_Supreme on Feb 21, 2017 23:05:18 GMT
Spencer - I'm happy she's getting good work but this was not an oscar performance at all. Negga - She just makes my top 10, it's an inspired nom, but how she got in over Adams baffles me. Gosling - He was charming and energetic but this seemed like the easiest role he has ever done (bar playing the piano)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2017 23:43:41 GMT
Ali. He didn't do shit. Hedges. Annoying as hell. Gosling. It only shows what a weak year this was.
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Post by speeders on Feb 22, 2017 0:41:19 GMT
Streep Spencer
N/S Fences
Definitely an improvement to last year in this regard, all the other actors are worthy (despite not all being my personal nominees, Gosling and Garfield were nominated for the wrong performances this season)
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Feb 22, 2017 1:04:10 GMT
Didn't do anything we haven't seen them do before: Gosling
Didn't do anything, period: Ali, Spencer
Was downright bad at times: Hedges (I mean, he was pretty believable for the most part, but am I the only one who thought his crying scene was fake as shit?)
I didn't see Streep or Patel.
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Post by unfunnyhamster on Feb 22, 2017 3:15:03 GMT
The Rachel McAdams noms of the year(The people that got nominated because of their agents/appearing in the film);
Octavia Spencer Ryan Gosling
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Post by ChairfaceC on Feb 22, 2017 3:24:33 GMT
I haven't seen a ton, but the only ones I really take any issue with are Gosling and Harris. Gosling is fine and I don't have any real problems with the performance, but it has absolutely no business being nominated for anything. Harris I thought was actually really bad, and as much as I love literally everything else about Moonlight I can't get behind her nomination at all.
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Post by gyllet on Feb 22, 2017 4:12:30 GMT
Gosling. Washington. Hammy, over the top, annoying. Streep Shannon Patel
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Post by phenix714 on Feb 22, 2017 4:39:31 GMT
I've never seen Gosling do what he does in La La Land. He usually does "zombie" roles (Drive, Only God Forgives, Lost River, The Place Beyond the Pines). The only movies I've seen where he acts like an actual human being are La La Land, The Nice Guys and The Notebook, and in those two he plays very different characters from the one in La La Land.
So, I'd like to know in which movies you've seen him act even remotely similar (haven't seen Crazy, Stupid, Love and Gangster Squad yet so those could be the ones).
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Post by levpoldkahnt on Feb 22, 2017 10:35:10 GMT
Im still missing Fences.
Best Actor: Andrew Garfield - he was good, but not nomworthy. It was a very effect driven movie, which didnt really give him room to really wow me with his acting. Ryan Gosling - he was okay, but I think Emma Stone acted circles around him. And she isnt even in my Top 10.
Best Actress: Ruth Negga - I like her as an actress but her performance really didnt do anything for me. I like a subdued performance, but her introvertedness made her seem a bit retarded even at times. Mery Streep - I love her so damn much, but the past few years she became quite one-note. Shes going for the shrill and or hysteric characters and she didnt do anything new in Florence Foster Jenkins.
Best Supporting Actor: Mahershala Ali - seriously? He really didnt do anything and then he was gone. Its especially frustrating, given how amazing André Holland and Trevante Rhodes were. Im on the edge about the next four. Jeff Bridges - he was good, but Ben Foster was slightly better and Ive seen Bridges as the mumbling sheriff-y character already. Lucas Hedges - he was good as the annoying teen, but his breakdown was cringeworthy. Dev Patel - Sunny Pawar was way better. Patel was okay. Michael Shannon - Love him. He was good, but nothing to write home about.
Best Supporting Actress: Nicole Kidman - First of all: that wig.. She had her Oscar-y moments, but she didnt move me at all. Octavia Spencer - It was "Minnie lite". She already won an Oscar for that performance. Love her in everything, though. Michelle Williams - I really didnt feel her "Oscar clip" scene. May be, because it was in every trailer and Ive seen it too often already. Also, the editing in that scene was bad and the hair.. My god. She is one of my favorite actresses though, so I dont mind.
So, yeah. The supporting categories dont really work for me. At all.
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