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Post by theycallmemrfish on Feb 27, 2018 21:53:51 GMT
Okay, you mother fuckers lied to me! I caused $500+ in damages during that last mission!
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Post by stephen on Feb 27, 2018 22:05:48 GMT
So do you guys get all the questions right? I'm getting one wrong a lot... I'm on the case right now with the blood splattered car parked on the train tracks. Pretty damn sure the guy faked his own death and killed a pig in his car, but I can't really prove that right now. And won't I look like a tool if that is wayyyyy off from what is actually the case. Oh, and I killed a guy who held a guy hostage at gunpoint. Pretty sure I wasn't supposed to do that. I typically flubbed at least one per case in my first playthrough. Basically, if you can prove someone is lying (i.e. some hard evidence that ties them to the scene), use it. If you are sure they are lying but can't actually prove it with hard evidence, go with doubt. If you think they're being truthful and up front about a particular subject, go with the truth. If you killed a hostage-taker, that's generally okay in a side mission.
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Post by stephen on Feb 27, 2018 22:06:20 GMT
Okay, you mother fuckers lied to me! I caused $500+ in damages during that last mission! Those are rookie numbers in this racket.
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Post by theycallmemrfish on Feb 27, 2018 22:26:38 GMT
So do you guys get all the questions right? I'm getting one wrong a lot... I'm on the case right now with the blood splattered car parked on the train tracks. Pretty damn sure the guy faked his own death and killed a pig in his car, but I can't really prove that right now. And won't I look like a tool if that is wayyyyy off from what is actually the case. Oh, and I killed a guy who held a guy hostage at gunpoint. Pretty sure I wasn't supposed to do that. I typically flubbed at least one per case in my first playthrough. Basically, if you can prove someone is lying (i.e. some hard evidence that ties them to the scene), use it. If you are sure they are lying but can't actually prove it with hard evidence, go with doubt. If you think they're being truthful and up front about a particular subject, go with the truth. If you killed a hostage-taker, that's generally okay in a side mission. Yeah, it was a side mission... still, they looked very unhappy about it. Hell, the victim just ran off. Asshole didn't even say thanks.
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Post by theycallmemrfish on Feb 27, 2018 23:33:58 GMT
Okay, so I did the Consol's Car, which was kind of bullshit. Found all the clues, got a perfect Q&A with the car dealer... but the thief's girlfriend I only got two right. Uh, I'm pretty sure that storing stolen property is a crime, Rockstar! Anyway, calling her a liar and pointing out that she has a shitload of stolen goods on her property is wrong.
But then at the end, I outted a consul as homosexual and a kiddie fiddler? Huh? That's news to me because I have no idea how that happened except for that one line of dialogue. lol.
Damages - $1500. Fuckity fuck me.
I think that's how I'll update this thread... case by case.
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Post by stephen on Feb 28, 2018 1:18:44 GMT
Okay, so I did the Consol's Car, which was kind of bullshit. Found all the clues, got a perfect Q&A with the car dealer... but the thief's girlfriend I only got two right. Uh, I'm pretty sure that storing stolen property is a crime, Rockstar! Anyway, calling her a liar and pointing out that she has a shitload of stolen goods on her property is wrong. But then at the end, I outted a consul as homosexual and a kiddie fiddler? Huh? That's news to me because I have no idea how that happened except for that one line of dialogue. lol. Damages - $1500. Fuckity fuck me. I think that's how I'll update this thread... case by case. Awesome. Be sure to keep us updated on your progress in the war flashbacks. Also, be sure to collect all the newspapers: one per each case. They come with secret scenes of a parallel storyline in the game that figures into the endgame.
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Post by theycallmemrfish on Mar 1, 2018 18:04:20 GMT
stephenHopefully not a spoiler, but are clues only gonna be within the police barricade? I know I searched everywhere for a blood trail during the pig killing wife leaver (to no avail) all along the tracks and found nothing. Just wanna know so I'm not wasting a ton of time searching places that will never come up with anything.
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Post by stephen on Mar 1, 2018 18:13:34 GMT
stephen Hopefully not a spoiler, but are clues only gonna be within the police barricade? I know I searched everywhere for a blood trail during the pig killing wife leaver (to no avail) all along the tracks and found nothing. Just wanna know so I'm not wasting a ton of time searching places that will never come up with anything. Listen to the music. The weird chimes that signify you're close to a clue should stop once you've found everything. But when it doubt, ask your partner. He generally can give you clues on what to do next. But yeah, if you can't find it, it probably isn't there.
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Post by theycallmemrfish on Mar 1, 2018 18:58:45 GMT
A Marriage Made in Heaven.
Super stoked I got all the questions right with the witness and the bartender... chased down the hit and run guy with relatively no damage whatsoever.
...and then like an anvil from the sky on top of a coyote, I just went flat. On the way to the wife's I must have hit at least 8 cars and nearly mow down half a side walk ($0 injuries at the end though... bug?) and when I get there. Boom. Both questions wrong. So then I have to go to the coroners. And boy did I go to the coroners. Remember those eight cars I said I hit before... yeah, I hit that number making a routine right hand turn. lol.
At this point I just let the partner drive back to the bar. Find the knife. Walk inside, get shot at... run that mother down on top of a roof. But... I walk up to him and nothing happens. I mash all the buttons and he's not tackling him or anything. So I panic and shoot him in the legs a few times.
...well, he dead.
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Post by theycallmemrfish on Mar 2, 2018 18:58:13 GMT
It's good that I can play this now with more time than I did before because look at that! Not quite perfect, but close enough! Anywho, this was the one with the stolen car ring that goes all the way up to the pink slip manufacturer. Case was certainly straightforward enough except for that fucker in the interrogation room where I got the damn questions wrong. Luckily enough he spilled enough of the beans for me to have info about the racket so I was able to get his little not-girlfriend caught in a couple of lies. Funnily enough, during the warehouse shootout, I'm fairly certain I shot Bekowski a couple of times (please tell me friendly fire doesn't happen here for future reference). I must say, I fucking hate the controls going from cover to cover, and I wish I found out about the mechanic where I can pick up other weapons from the baddies to use... you know BEFORE I kill everyone but the last guy I need to interrogate. I had that shotgun for far too little a time.
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Post by stephen on Mar 3, 2018 2:14:21 GMT
It's good that I can play this now with more time than I did before because look at that! Not quite perfect, but close enough! Anywho, this was the one with the stolen car ring that goes all the way up to the pink slip manufacturer. Case was certainly straightforward enough except for that fucker in the interrogation room where I got the damn questions wrong. Luckily enough he spilled enough of the beans for me to have info about the racket so I was able to get his little not-girlfriend caught in a couple of lies. Funnily enough, during the warehouse shootout, I'm fairly certain I shot Bekowski a couple of times (please tell me friendly fire doesn't happen here for future reference). I must say, I fucking hate the controls going from cover to cover, and I wish I found out about the mechanic where I can pick up other weapons from the baddies to use... you know BEFORE I kill everyone but the last guy I need to interrogate. I had that shotgun for far too little a time. I don't remember if friendly fire is a thing. I do know your partners can die, but the times that has happened has been because of enemy fire. And yeah, the shotgun is sweet but wait till you get a Tommy gun.
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Post by theycallmemrfish on Mar 3, 2018 21:40:28 GMT
"The Fallen Idol"
I could have sworn I saved a screenshot of the Case Closed, but my Steam account says otherwise.
It was a much easier one that the last, though I still managed to get a Q&A wrong for each of them (even the slimeball prop master, which I thought was a bullshit "wrong" accusation).
Now, that fucking shootout I had to redo like 3 or 4 times (I was too afraid to shoot where it all comes to a close because the game map doesn't display friendly's very well, or at least in a way that I can easily distinguish between the cops from the crooks). Wasn't particularly hard, but stupid little mistakes like not seeing the message on screen that guys were out of range from my pistol and thusly getting shot when I have my crosshair over the shooter and me going "this stupid bitch won't fucking die!!!"
Still, I'm having a good time with this game. Doesn't make me curse my computer nearly as much as Mordheim does (where the words "cunt" and copious other obscenities are yelled), but I still get aggravated when I know the fucker is lying but the evidence I use is "wrong".
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Post by theycallmemrfish on Jan 21, 2019 22:12:41 GMT
Finally back at it.
Still annoyed beyond belief when i KNOW they're lying but present the "wrong" evidence of them lying. Bah.
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Post by theycallmemrfish on Jan 21, 2019 22:40:33 GMT
If I'm in a shootout, is there any way to pacify the suspects?
I've tried shooting them in the legs, but it doesn't seem to do anything but get my ass shot to hell.
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Post by stephen on Jan 22, 2019 14:52:01 GMT
If I'm in a shootout, is there any way to pacify the suspects? I've tried shooting them in the legs, but it doesn't seem to do anything but get my ass shot to hell. Kneecapping is the only thing I know that works, and as you say, it doesn't work all the time.
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Post by theycallmemrfish on Jan 23, 2019 20:28:27 GMT
Two big things:
1- I still cannot get them to go down by shooting them in the legs. I shot a guy in the hand and he died. I shot a guy about 6 times in his legs and he killed me with his shotgun.
2- I've been demoted to Arson. Which much like Ad Vice, is just another Homicide division... apparently. I was hoping to be like DeNiro in Backdraft, but nope. Just more murder.
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Post by stephen on Jan 24, 2019 2:31:47 GMT
Two big things: 1- I still cannot get them to go down by shooting them in the legs. I shot a guy in the hand and he died. I shot a guy about 6 times in his legs and he killed me with his shotgun. 2- I've been demoted to Arson. Which much like Ad Vice, is just another Homicide division... apparently. I was hoping to be like DeNiro in Backdraft, but nope. Just more murder. 1. Huh. Well, I guess you just got the killer's instinct. But then, you wouldn't be a cop in L.A. if you didn't use excessive force. 2. I remember being so excited when I got promoted to Homicide. Then I got moved to Vice and felt offended. I'm natural po-lice.
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Post by theycallmemrfish on Jan 24, 2019 2:39:45 GMT
Two big things: 1- I still cannot get them to go down by shooting them in the legs. I shot a guy in the hand and he died. I shot a guy about 6 times in his legs and he killed me with his shotgun. 2- I've been demoted to Arson. Which much like Ad Vice, is just another Homicide division... apparently. I was hoping to be like DeNiro in Backdraft, but nope. Just more murder. 1. Huh. Well, I guess you just got the killer's instinct. But then, you wouldn't be a cop in L.A. if you didn't use excessive force. 2. I remember being so excited when I got promoted to Homicide. Then I got moved to Vice and felt offended. I'm natural po-lice. When I got promoted to Vice, I thought for sure I would be interacting with a lot more folks... maybe even have like a bribe option. Then in the first mission, the first two people I meet are fucking dead. lol. ---- Also, pertaining to the pacification ala shooting them in the leg... I looked up on the wiki after I finished the mission to see if I could have actually done so. Turns out, you can't for that particular mission. I'm guessing that maybe all the times where I've actually tried to do so, it's a foregone conclusion that they have to die in the gunfight to proceed (although maybe one to two were just me hitting them in the stomach or something... I know I'm not the best video game shooter, but I do know that when I'm actively shooting below the waist and see blood spatter, it can't be because I'm that bad...)
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Post by theycallmemrfish on Jan 24, 2019 22:17:46 GMT
WOAH WOAH WOAH WOAH.
Now I'm Kelsp? AND I'M TRYING TO STEAL PHELPS' WOMAN?!
No. No way. Nah ah! As much as I didn't particularly care for Phelps at the start, I was liking him towards the end there. AND ELSA! You two timing whore! I see those eyes you've been giving Kelso!
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Post by theycallmemrfish on Jan 25, 2019 21:15:50 GMT
At the credits right now and I am so mad... in a goodish way.
I gotta know if there are multiple endings, though. 'Cuz while I do dig certain abrupt endings, this one just feels like there is more to it than this.
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Post by theycallmemrfish on Jan 26, 2019 17:33:56 GMT
Alrighty... I was in the shower thinking about this ending a lot. I fucking love it. If this game were a film (and in many ways it pretty much is), I'd be head over heels about this ending. It's not very often something like this happens (and hell, outside of maybe 2 games I've ever played, I don't I've ever had such an ending). Unexpected, heartbreaking, frustrating, and most of all... deliciously film noir. HOWEVER! As a player of the game, I wanted nothing more than to shoot Earle in the fucking dick. I can totally get behind the Mayor and the Chief getting away with everything, but not that rat fuck! I wanted so much for there to be an American Gangster church scene with John Hawkes coming out of nowhere to be leaning on a street post waiting to arrest Roy's ass as he comes out of the funeral. Didn't happen. Then I thought maybe there would be a Departed type of scenario where maybe Kelso, or Biggs, or Finbarr, or my personal pick-- tech-wiz Ray (the only one who had Phelps' back when things went sour) would be waiting for Roy in his apartment. But at the end of the day, the ending is the ending and there are no others (I googled). So I'm happy I didn't end up doing something woefully wrong, which is what I was afraid I did. So to end this game and pretty much my thoughts on the ending, I must share one of my favorite taglines from one of my favorite films: No one gets away clean.
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Post by stephen on Apr 12, 2019 19:06:39 GMT
I re-read this thread and now I think I'm gonna be heading back to 1940s L.A. when I get off work.
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Post by theycallmemrfish on Apr 12, 2019 19:20:06 GMT
I re-read this thread and now I think I'm gonna be heading back to 1940s L.A. when I get off work. I did thoroughly enjoy myself as far as the story was concerned. I just hated the controls... and the occasional "THIS PROVES YOU ARE WRONG, WHY DID IT SAY I WAS WRONG FOR BRINGING IT UP?!", but I'm still smitten by the game's ending.
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Post by Martin Stett on May 22, 2019 20:11:11 GMT
I'm playing the game for the first time. I only know the "DOUBT" meme, and I didn't even know it was from this game.
I just finished the Adulterous Pig case. I'm still super confused about how this game works. My idea of "accusing someone of a lie" is very different from Cole's idea of "accusing someone of a lie murder you fucking dog" and it's a little frustrating that Cole's interrogation techniques are limited to "very good, I believe everything you say" and "BURN IN HELL FOR LYING TO ME."
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Post by theycallmemrfish on May 22, 2019 20:33:29 GMT
I'm playing the game for the first time. I only know the "DOUBT" meme, and I didn't even know it was from this game. I just finished the Adulterous Pig case. I'm still super confused about how this game works. My idea of "accusing someone of a lie" is very different from Cole's idea of "accusing someone of a lie murder you fucking dog" and it's a little frustrating that Cole's interrogation techniques are limited to "very good, I believe everything you say" and "BURN IN HELL FOR LYING TO ME." Look at your notebook before making any decision. It helps a ton. Also good to know is that you can back out of a lie accusation (and their response usually steers you into the right direction)... though, know that sometimes you can choose the "incorrect" lie, even if it proves they are lying.
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