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Post by stephen on Jun 23, 2019 15:51:55 GMT
Why haven't I been able to get through a week without thinking about and wanting to rewatch this god damn show? Lynch has ruined films for me. Nothing compares. I wonder if the Academy looked at the Emmys snubbing Lynch (for Ryan fucking Murphy) and thinking, "Fuck that, we need to correct that ASAP." I choose to believe his Honorary Oscar is actually for The Return. |
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Post by wattsnew on Jun 24, 2019 22:56:54 GMT
Why haven't I been able to get through a week without thinking about and wanting to rewatch this god damn show? Lynch has ruined films for me. Nothing compares. I wonder if the Academy looked at the Emmys snubbing Lynch (for Ryan fucking Murphy) and thinking, "Fuck that, we need to correct that ASAP." I choose to believe his Honorary Oscar is actually for The Return. I would also imagine Laura Dern played a major part in making that honorary Oscar happen. |
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Post by Archie on Sept 7, 2019 20:23:21 GMT
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Post by stephen on Sept 7, 2019 20:25:15 GMT
That tweet should be framed in the Smithsonian.
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Post by Viced on Oct 1, 2019 15:57:41 GMT
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Post by moonman157 on Oct 2, 2019 1:25:24 GMT
New Chromatics album at midnight now. WHAT DOES THIS ALL MEAN |
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Post by Johnny_Hellzapoppin on Oct 2, 2019 7:35:28 GMT
This seems to be much talked about right now, so that's a solid enough foundation to believe something is really happening and that we may hear about it soon. Personally I'm delighted. As phenomenal as Season 3 was, and as much as it would have made for a damn fine finale to the whole wonderful opus...I still want more! Also, I do feel like a handful of characters got a bit of a rough deal in terms of story expansion. So I'd hope they might get a little more. Perhaps they could even get Michael Ontkean back. If his reasons for dropping out ever became known, I didn't hear it.
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Post by wattsnew on Oct 2, 2019 19:41:19 GMT
It is happening again
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Post by cheesecake on Oct 3, 2019 11:30:20 GMT
Following all this speculation on Reddit has been fun to watch.
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Post by wattsnew on Oct 9, 2019 2:05:16 GMT
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Post by PromNightCarrie on Oct 14, 2019 11:54:48 GMT
I just wanted to say it's amazing how influential this show is. I keep seeing shows from today that I know were inspired by Twin Peaks in some way.
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Post by theycallmemrfish on Oct 26, 2019 18:46:57 GMT
What year is this?
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Post by JangoB on Oct 27, 2019 10:01:04 GMT
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Post by Martin Stett on Jan 16, 2020 3:27:13 GMT
Well. I'm two episodes in. Uh, the pilot and episode 1. I'm finding that if I repeat the names of every character aloud several times a scene, and repeat how they're related to characters X, Y and Z, I can more or less keep track of what's going on. I think. But... do people actually like this show? I mean, it isn't bad, but... it isn't very good? It's a soap opera with occasional flourishes of strangeness because Lynch.
Does this show pick up at all? Or does it just keep this "hokey!!! small town soap" vibe and never develop the mystery?
Anyway, I'll keep updating my progress. May as well. Perhaps this will pick up soon. But please get better.
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Post by Zeb31 on Jan 16, 2020 4:07:01 GMT
I too found it hard to keep track of who was who for the first couple of episodes, but as season 1 progresses the characters and their relationships become very easy to follow.
It's very soapy at the outset, but Episode 2 (actually 1x03) introduces the Black Lodge and the surreal/supernatural elements that will later become the show's signature, so keep it up. If after that episode you're really not interested, then maybe Twin Peaks just isn't your thing. But yeah, the first couple of episodes aren't really enough for you to completely gauge what the tone and themes of the series are like, and they're drastically different from the territory Lynch would later explore with Fire Walk with Me and especially The Return.
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Post by RedHawk10 on Jan 16, 2020 4:58:01 GMT
It's a contender for my favorite piece of fiction, period - I find it indescribably emotional and devastating (I genuinely get choked up just watching the end credits of the original show, with Laura's picture and her theme playing  ), crazy thought-provoking, and just flat out entertaining as hell. IMO, the "mystery" evolves into Lynch's most profound statements as an artist. Can't say anything else about that. I will say that Twin Peaks is about a lot of things though - the savior complex, spirituality, the nature of good and evil, America, community, self-delusion... If you got absolutely nothing out of the first two episodes, chances are high you're not going to end up much of a fan (though the series undergoes some pretty extreme tonal shifts as it goes along, and that of course includes Fire Walk With Me and The Return, so...), but I'd at least give it till the third one before making up your mind. That's where a lot of people got hooked. Our taste is so different most of the time that I'd almost just expect you to dislike this, but it's cool you're giving it a try. Is there anything you like about it so far? |
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Post by Martin Stett on Jan 16, 2020 5:19:11 GMT
Our taste is so different most of the time that I'd almost just expect you to dislike this, but it's cool you're giving it a try. Is there anything you like about it so far? I don't dislike it. It's passably entertaining in a goofy soap parody sort of way. The scene-by-scene, moment-by-moment stuff is fine, moderately entertaining. But already this is straining my patience with all of its subplots: an abused wife, more people cheating on their partners than I can count, the murder, the plot to take over the mill, whatever is going on with Audrey Horne... so much information, so little development of any of these threads. This isn't about people right now, but caricatures. This is very early yet, but I'm already tired. I think my problem is that David Lynch and Mark Frost don't like these people. The characters are more like sideshow freaks we're meant to laugh at. Or study, if I'm being generous.I'm worried that this will follow the Mulholland Drive path, and Lynch is just gonna go down the road of using strange happenings to replace three dimensional characters who have fears and dreams. Lynch is such an odd duck for me: I dig Eraserhead for its comedic telling of a man's fear of fatherhood, and The Straight Story for its straightforward narrative of regret and bitterness. I despise Blue Velvet (IIRC, I found it mean-spirited in the way it painted people as ugly and cruel without any empathy for them... but it has been a long time and I can barely remember the film). I'm indifferent towards Mulholland Drive (strange doings, no characters!) and The Elephant Man (nice enough Oscar bait). |
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Post by theycallmemrfish on Jan 16, 2020 5:23:27 GMT
I gave it the entire first season before I ended my watch.
I was totally into the mystery and somewhat into to supernatural stuff... but I couldn't get past the townsfolk, who I found to be mostly insufferable, and I really didn't like the very soap feel to it (S1 finale practically had every single soap cliche you could think of in it).
That said, I can see why people enjoy it... but it wasn't for me.
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Post by RedHawk10 on Jan 16, 2020 5:26:52 GMT
Our taste is so different most of the time that I'd almost just expect you to dislike this, but it's cool you're giving it a try. Is there anything you like about it so far? I don't dislike it. It's passably entertaining in a goofy soap parody sort of way. The scene-by-scene, moment-by-moment stuff is fine, moderately entertaining. But already this is straining my patience with all of its subplots: an abused wife, more people cheating on their partners than I can count, the murder, the plot to take over the mill, whatever is going on with Audrey Horne... so much information, so little development of any of these threads. This isn't about people right now, but caricatures. This is very early yet, but I'm already tired. I think my problem is that David Lynch and Mark Frost don't like these people. The characters are more like sideshow freaks we're meant to laugh at. Or study, if I'm being generous.I'm worried that this will follow the Mulholland Drive path, and Lynch is just gonna go down the road of using strange happenings to replace three dimensional characters who have fears and dreams. Lynch is such an odd duck for me: I dig Eraserhead for its comedic telling of a man's fear of fatherhood, and The Straight Story for its straightforward narrative of regret and bitterness. I despise Blue Velvet (IIRC, I found it mean-spirited in the way it painted people as ugly and cruel without any empathy for them... but it has been a long time and I can barely remember the film). I'm indifferent towards Mulholland Drive (strange doings, no characters!) and The Elephant Man (nice enough Oscar bait). Mulholland Dr. is the most intimate and depressing character study for me in any film, so can't say I see eye to eye with ya on that one. We probably just interpreted the movie completely differently. I do (mostly) agree with and love your reading of Eraserhead, though - it's way funnier than most people give it credit for. |
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Post by DeepArcher on Jan 16, 2020 8:26:51 GMT
I feel like there’s no way in hell you’d like Twin Peaks, so I kinda just wanna tell you to stop watching it so that I don’t have to read you say any more negative things about it, lol.
While I’d agree that the third episode is when it becomes truly great and truly becomes itself, the pilot episode is still masterful to me and I find it hard to believe that someone could get into the show if that introduction didn’t work for them. Also, the show being a soap opera parody was precisely the point, but obviously that’s not gonna change how you feel about it. (It also doubles-down on the soapy stuff during the infamous stretch of episodes in season 2 that everyone hates, so just keep that in mind if you at all continue.)
Of course The Return is an entirely different beast, but that’s the one I’m pretty confident would play to your tastes even less, so I’m not even sure I can recommend you sticking out the rest of the original series just so that you can get to it.
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Post by notacrook on Jan 16, 2020 10:50:39 GMT
I would now call myself a fan of the show, especially after the masterful Fire Walk with Me and The Return. However, I struggled as well with the original series at times, and agree with the critique that, while it certainly was intended to be a soap parody, it all too often just plays as an actual soap with quirky elements.
That being said, I did think the pilot episode was incredible, so if you didn't find any merit in that I'm not sure you'll like the show even in its best moments. I'd say give it a few more episodes, though.
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Post by Johnny_Hellzapoppin on Jan 16, 2020 13:43:31 GMT
Well. I'm two episodes in. Uh, the pilot and episode 1. I'm finding that if I repeat the names of every character aloud several times a scene, and repeat how they're related to characters X, Y and Z, I can more or less keep track of what's going on. I think. But... do people actually like this show? I mean, it isn't bad, but... it isn't very good? It's a soap opera with occasional flourishes of strangeness because Lynch. Does this show pick up at all? Or does it just keep this "hokey!!! small town soap" vibe and never develop the mystery? Anyway, I'll keep updating my progress. May as well. Perhaps this will pick up soon. But please get better. Honestly, if you stick out to the end of Season 1 and you're still not digging it, I wouldn't bother.
As much as I think everyone in the world should watch this show and especially the third season, it probably isn't worth getting through season 2, which is full of highs and lows, if you aren't a fan by the time you've finished season 1. |
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Post by Martin Stett on Jan 17, 2020 2:06:19 GMT
Episode 2 (or 3) was pretty good. Nevermind the weird supernatural stuff, that was fine. I just enjoyed how utterly silly this whole thing got with that ridiculous Tibet sequence (thank you for making clear who the characters are!) and Albert's over-the-top team and the wacky diner sequence with Audrey and Donna. And then there was a dancing dwarf because why not, but that was the least fun I had among this episode's random comedy.
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Post by Johnny_Hellzapoppin on Jan 17, 2020 8:53:56 GMT
Episode 2 (or 3) was pretty good. Nevermind the weird supernatural stuff, that was fine. I just enjoyed how utterly silly this whole thing got with that ridiculous Tibet sequence (thank you for making clear who the characters are!) and Albert's over-the-top team and the wacky diner sequence with Audrey and Donna. And then there was a dancing dwarf because why not, but that was the least fun I had among this episode's random comedy. Buffy has a lot of competition for it, and The Sopranos has one or two episodes too; but this episode of Twin Peaks could definitely make a case for the funniest episode of a non comedy show that I've seen. |
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Post by Martin Stett on Jan 23, 2020 12:35:45 GMT
I finished season 1. It's no masterpiece, but a lot of fun when it embraces the silliness like it's an extra-long NCIS story.
I was expecting something a lot weirder, like Mulholland Drive or even Eraserhead. This is actually very tame. It's dreamlike, but more in the sense of a dream being weird when you look back on it. Take the scene at the vet in which Dale and Harry are talking over a llama. It's funny stuff, but not so extremely strange and unbelievable. Just a bit off kilter.
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), crazy thought-provoking, and just flat out entertaining as hell. 
