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Post by coop032 on Feb 6, 2018 19:42:24 GMT
My only problem going back too far and not giving us an adequate amount of time in between each year, there's no way I'd be able to see enough of those films for my nominations to be fair. For me, going backwards is easier because I'd need much less time for each year. But either way, they sound like fun.
I also really like the inclusion of some new categories. I think we should definitely keep everything that we had in the ICCs and add a few that make sense. I really like a possible Special Recognition category. Maybe something like Best Movie Moment or Best Action Sequence. I feel like a Best Comedy (like straight up comedy, not dramedy or romantic comedy) and Best Horror film category would be fun too. Stuff like that.
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Post by therealcomicman117 on Feb 6, 2018 20:39:13 GMT
Though I haven't participated much this year, I like all of the ideas thrown out, I'll admit.
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Post by dadsburgers on Feb 6, 2018 23:26:55 GMT
My ideas for categories: Queer Cinema Award Black Cinema Award No. No no no no no no no. I'm not having this turned into a SJW fest. Just my idea. Also it's not like you'd HAVE to vote for those categories. If you want to only vote for the straight white men, no one's stopping you.
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Post by dadsburgers on Feb 6, 2018 23:41:38 GMT
From dadsburger's list, I like the idea of Youth and Voiceover performances, though I hope that doesn't mean people are less inclined to vote for either of those in the big four performance categories too (never know how people think). I also am with Stephen on not being a fan of the Golden Globe type of split Picture categories. I'd rather keep it as one because then we don't have to worry about "wait is this movie a comedy or drama?" Plus it just makes it more interesting to see what makes the cut rather than struggling to find good ones to fill either category. "Soundtrack" is another category to include from the ICC categories, but I've also previously included "Use of a Song" as well. Essentially, best use of a specific song for a specific scene. For example, "Bellbottoms" by Jon Spencer Blues Explosion from Baby Driver would probably make the cut for its use in the (bad-ass) opening scene. Also, Best Credits Sequence - I personally have this category in all my line-ups every year because I feel like sometimes they're an art in themselves. I think I added this back in 2012 after everyone went nuts for The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo's opening credits and I wanted there to be a way to reward them. So, this is just a start if you want to include some new ones and certainly don't have to use any if you don't want. But do let me know if you'd like some assistance. I personally hate the idea of having "youth" performances in their own category because it feels like that would be basically the consolation prize for a Tremblay or a Wallis, rather than them contending with the big guns as they should. It just lends more credence to the ludicrous idea that kids can't be considered on the same level as adults when it comes to acting. "Voiceover" feels, to me, like a category where there are very few in a given year (if at all) that are actually worthy of recognition. It's not every season that we get a Robin Williams/Jeremy Irons/Ellen DeGeneres. I wouldn't be averse to something like a "special recognition" or something, but if there's a strong voiceover performance, it should (like the youths) contend in the main field. Basically, I don't like the idea of too many acting categories. Wouldn't be averse to the soundtrack/credits sequences as categories. Totally understand where you're coming from. I separate categories for voiceover because it's a different job than live acting. Voice actors don't work on sets, interact with costumes and makeups, learn blocking. They aren't responsible for body language or facial expression. They work under different restraints. Plus, I've had solid lineups pretty much every year (2016 was so tough because of the plethora of quality animated movies and performances). I waver on including motion capture performances, but due to the physical element, that seems to align closer to live acting as far as I know. For youth, I am on the side that it's a little unfair to hold an 8 year old to the same standards as a veteran professional actor. They simply don't have the development and experience to be expected to perform at the same level (of course, there are plenty of examples of child actors who have, but I don't think it's fair to hold that as an expectation). It gives them another opportunity for recognition. I don't say this to demean children, I'm a teacher. I wouldn't hold kids to the same standards in any other profession for the reasons above, so I don't with acting either. That being said, if we have just a Breakthrough Performance Award, I think that would be a fair compromise as it offers similar recognition for young actors, just with older unrecognized actors thrown in as well.
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Post by IceTruckDexter on Feb 7, 2018 0:17:42 GMT
No. No no no no no no no. I'm not having this turned into a SJW fest. Just my idea. Also it's not like you'd HAVE to vote for those categories. If you want to only vote for the straight white men, no one's stopping you. Hey you're the one ghettoizing the jigaboos and the pillowbiters. I'm the one who wants them integrated.
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Post by dadsburgers on Feb 7, 2018 2:07:37 GMT
Since Saul Bass revolutionized the credits sequence, I'm honestly surprised it didn't become a category in its own right. Sometimes they're just bland, Times New Roman pasting of names at the beginning of a film, but when done right they can be beautiful. I feel that most credits sequences in film are pretty bland and it would be hard to come up with anything memorable (which isn't a problem, as obtrusive credits can detract from a film). Television is generally better at this art because it needs a hook to make you stop and watch -- anime TV (and a few films, such as Paprika) has turned this into an art form, creating music videos that can pump you up and give small insights into how the characters think, all in 90 second periods. But in film, credits sequences run the risk of being too flashy or too long if they try to play it up. Yeah, I feel like it's pretty outdated for the most part. Most films don't even include opening credits anymore. Besides in Fincher films or Bond movies, what are some examples of standout credit sequences? Maybe I'm just blanking.
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Post by idioticbunny on Feb 7, 2018 18:34:12 GMT
I feel that most credits sequences in film are pretty bland and it would be hard to come up with anything memorable (which isn't a problem, as obtrusive credits can detract from a film). Television is generally better at this art because it needs a hook to make you stop and watch -- anime TV (and a few films, such as Paprika) has turned this into an art form, creating music videos that can pump you up and give small insights into how the characters think, all in 90 second periods. But in film, credits sequences run the risk of being too flashy or too long if they try to play it up. Yeah, I feel like it's pretty outdated for the most part. Most films don't even include opening credits anymore. Besides in Fincher films or Bond movies, what are some examples of standout credit sequences? Maybe I'm just blanking. As I make line-ups for this category every year - I can share my top five of this year in which I think all five are worthy: 01. Baby Driver (Opening). 02. Guardians of the Galaxy, Vol. 2 (Opening). 03. Good Time (Opening). 04. Dave Made a Maze (Opening). 05. Get Out (Opening). They don't always have to have that Fincher or Bond flash to them, though it helps obviously. Just so long as they set up the tone and/or mood of the film perfectly, then it works. The first three and Get Out work perfectly to do this. Get Out gets the fifth spot mainly because it's too simple. Shots of trees flying by, but it's the eerie theme from Michael Abels that makes it work so well. But Baby Driver and Galaxy have sequences of characters dancing and lip-syncing which is perfect to describe the former and the latter shows off its goofiness. Good Time ups the intensity as the credits go on and help to set-up some backstory for the film that is about to follow. I won't comment on Maze as I doubt many people have seen it, but it's just a quirky animated sequence - a la the flashy ones you've mentioned. Either way, I think every year has credit sequences worth nominating. They aren't always made by a separate team like the Bond and Fincher films, sometimes they're just a director being extra creative in setting up their story like with Wright's Baby Driver or the Safdie bros with Good Time. Looking through previous years' line-ups, some stand-outs also include: Krampus, The Neon Demon, Deadpool, Nocturnal Animals, The Voices (ending), Duke of Burgundy, Place Beyond the Pines, Super, Drive, etc. Anyway, that's my defense of credits sequences
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Post by Martin Stett on Feb 7, 2018 19:03:42 GMT
Yeah, I feel like it's pretty outdated for the most part. Most films don't even include opening credits anymore. Besides in Fincher films or Bond movies, what are some examples of standout credit sequences? Maybe I'm just blanking. As I make line-ups for this category every year - I can share my top five of this year in which I think all five are worthy: 01. Baby Driver (Opening). 02. Guardians of the Galaxy, Vol. 2 (Opening). 03. Good Time (Opening). 04. Dave Made a Maze (Opening). 05. Get Out (Opening). They don't always have to have that Fincher or Bond flash to them, though it helps obviously. Just so long as they set up the tone and/or mood of the film perfectly, then it works. The first three and Get Out work perfectly to do this. Get Out gets the fifth spot mainly because it's too simple. Shots of trees flying by, but it's the eerie theme from Michael Abels that makes it work so well. But Baby Driver and Galaxy have sequences of characters dancing and lip-syncing which is perfect to describe the former and the latter shows off its goofiness. Good Time ups the intensity as the credits go on and help to set-up some backstory for the film that is about to follow. I won't comment on Maze as I doubt many people have seen it, but it's just a quirky animated sequence - a la the flashy ones you've mentioned. Either way, I think every year has credit sequences worth nominating. They aren't always made by a separate team like the Bond and Fincher films, sometimes they're just a director being extra creative in setting up their story like with Wright's Baby Driver or the Safdie bros with Good Time. Looking through previous years' line-ups, some stand-outs also include: Krampus, The Neon Demon, Deadpool, Nocturnal Animals, The Voices (ending), Duke of Burgundy, Place Beyond the Pines, Super, Drive, etc. Anyway, that's my defense of credits sequences No matter how I cut it, I just don't think I could find more than one or two halfway decent credits sequences in a year. If that. Out of all that you mention, only Deadpool is in any way noteworthy by my book. It's entirely subjective, of course. I compare the credits sequences of any Hollywood movie to stuff like Baccano! Death Parade, Paprika, Paranoia Agent or Serial Experiments Lain and see a gulf in how well the credits sequences mesh with the story and a wider gulf in how well they get you excited for what will follow. The way Baccano gives you a second long glimpse at each of the characters and their personalities (Ladd throwing a dart next to Lua's head, betraying that he has little regard for her, Jac pulling Nice away from an explosion in panic as she grins like a madwoman and halfheartedly follows) or the way that Lain sticks you inside of the protagonist's head as she navigates the alien world around her -- these are great, great pieces of worldbuilding that I'm happy to honor, I just think that things like this roll around very rarely. I wouldn't be averse to a category, but I don't think that I could come up with anything.
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Post by dadsburgers on Feb 7, 2018 19:26:00 GMT
Looking through previous years' line-ups, some stand-outs also include: Krampus, The Neon Demon, Deadpool, Nocturnal Animals, The Voices (ending), Duke of Burgundy, Place Beyond the Pines, Super, Drive, etc. Anyway, that's my defense of credits sequences No matter how I cut it, I just don't think I could find more than one or two halfway decent credits sequences in a year. If that. Out of all that you mention, only Deadpool is in any way noteworthy by my book. For better or worse, surely you can admit Nocturnal Animals' opening was noteworthy!
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Post by Martin Stett on Feb 7, 2018 19:55:00 GMT
No matter how I cut it, I just don't think I could find more than one or two halfway decent credits sequences in a year. If that. Out of all that you mention, only Deadpool is in any way noteworthy by my book. For better or worse, surely you can admit Nocturnal Animals' opening was noteworthy! It was pointless.
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Post by Schiggy on Feb 7, 2018 20:54:55 GMT
No thanks on: comedy/drama distinction. Just say the film with the most votes is the best film of the year and the best (comedy or drama). Then the film with the most votes of the opposite genre can be said to the the best of that genre (akin to a fun fact).
No special categories for race/or sex/gender identities/age (otherwise, where's the best AARP's AfroFeminist LGBT Youth category??"
I like best voice over but also include best foreign language performance.
Credits sequence is a fun one. Best Villain is bleh (otherwise, where's the best hero/antihero/antivillain/neutral category). MVP award is fine, assuming they had a good year of at least a few good/great films performances that stood out).
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Post by helebrety on Feb 7, 2018 23:17:04 GMT
i agree with no seperation of comedy / drama or any other genre about films.
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Post by dadsburgers on Feb 7, 2018 23:33:32 GMT
No thanks on: comedy/drama distinction. Just say the film with the most votes is the best film of the year and the best (comedy or drama). Then the film with the most votes of the opposite genre can be said to the the best of that genre (akin to a fun fact). No special categories for race/or sex/gender identities/age (otherwise, where's the best AARP's AfroFeminist LGBT Youth category??" I like best voice over but also include best foreign language performance. Credits sequence is a fun one. Best Villain is bleh (otherwise, where's the best hero/antihero/antivillain/neutral category). MVP award is fine, assuming they had a good year of at least a few good/great films performances that stood out).s 1) Great points 2) We absolutely need an AARP's AfroFeminist LGBT Youth category now, to be awarded to any film that qualifies in future years 3) Why the distinction for foreign language performance, particularly over any other distinctions?
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Post by idioticbunny on Feb 8, 2018 0:12:09 GMT
No matter how I cut it, I just don't think I could find more than one or two halfway decent credits sequences in a year. If that. Out of all that you mention, only Deadpool is in any way noteworthy by my book. It's entirely subjective, of course. I compare the credits sequences of any Hollywood movie to stuff like Baccano! Death Parade, Paprika, Paranoia Agent or Serial Experiments Lain and see a gulf in how well the credits sequences mesh with the story and a wider gulf in how well they get you excited for what will follow. The way Baccano gives you a second long glimpse at each of the characters and their personalities (Ladd throwing a dart next to Lua's head, betraying that he has little regard for her, Jac pulling Nice away from an explosion in panic as she grins like a madwoman and halfheartedly follows) or the way that Lain sticks you inside of the protagonist's head as she navigates the alien world around her -- these are great, great pieces of worldbuilding that I'm happy to honor, I just think that things like this roll around very rarely. I wouldn't be averse to a category, but I don't think that I could come up with anything. I've not actually seen any of the films you listed there, but I'm sure it's all subjective as you say. I do wish that every filmmaker put thought into every aspect of the film, credit sequences included. I'm not a fan of them just being pasted over scenes, but if they are - like in the case of Baby Driver and Good Time - at least allow them to set you up for the world you're about to dive into, which I believe those films certainly do. Either way, these are just category ideas. And as it's one odd one I include every year, I figured it might be fun to include here as well. But that's ultimately not up to me either way. I'll just be happy if we include any unique ones.
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Post by Joaquim on Feb 8, 2018 1:00:55 GMT
No thanks on: comedy/drama distinction. Just say the film with the most votes is the best film of the year and the best (comedy or drama). Then the film with the most votes of the opposite genre can be said to the the best of that genre (akin to a fun fact). No special categories for race/or sex/gender identities/age (otherwise, where's the best AARP's AfroFeminist LGBT Youth category??" I like best voice over but also include best foreign language performance. Credits sequence is a fun one. Best Villain is bleh (otherwise, where's the best hero/antihero/antivillain/neutral category). MVP award is fine, assuming they had a good year of at least a few good/great films performances that stood out).s 1) Great points 2) We absolutely need an AARP's AfroFeminist LGBT Youth category now, to be awarded to any film that qualifies in future years3) Why the distinction for foreign language performance, particularly over any other distinctions? God this better be satire.
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Post by Schiggy on Feb 8, 2018 1:10:51 GMT
No thanks on: comedy/drama distinction. Just say the film with the most votes is the best film of the year and the best (comedy or drama). Then the film with the most votes of the opposite genre can be said to the the best of that genre (akin to a fun fact). No special categories for race/or sex/gender identities/age (otherwise, where's the best AARP's AfroFeminist LGBT Youth category??" I like best voice over but also include best foreign language performance. Credits sequence is a fun one. Best Villain is bleh (otherwise, where's the best hero/antihero/antivillain/neutral category). MVP award is fine, assuming they had a good year of at least a few good/great films performances that stood out).s 1) Great points 2) We absolutely need an AARP's AfroFeminist LGBT Youth category now, to be awarded to any film that qualifies in future years 3) Why the distinction for foreign language performance, particularly over any other distinctions? Because the foreign film experience is largely more varied than LGBT, Black, etc. films and doesn't feel like it's a way of giving minorities credit without actually giving them credit (aka segregating them to their own "thanks for trying, brown lesbian" category. It's patronizing. Foreign films aren't generally predisposed to be "political". I'm of the opinion that if someone doesn't like a (insert minority film "genre" here) enough to nominate it in main categories, then a little gold star doesn't really mean anything. It's artificial. (But I get that that applies to animated and foreign films/performances too, but it's more about the filmmaking, than the people who made it). I would say there are four kinds of film: feature, documentary, animated, and foreign (which overlap throughout). French, German, Taiwanese (language); 3D, handdrawn, claymation; musical, comedy, horror; being subcategories that don't be to be specifically awarded, same as race, gender, or sexuality. Though like someone else said, special one-off awards are fine (let's say if they get an overwhelming number of write-in votes, like 60% of all votes voted to give Greta Gerwig: Best Outstanding Blonde Woman Directing of a Motion Picture: Dramedy 2018), then sure. Or a serious note: If La La Land won "Musical film achievement" or Avatar won "CGI Innovation" or whatever. I also greatly fear that if we have these misc. mandatory categories, then there'd be a one-off year where no one gets enough votes or it's Tyler Perry would be default nominated in LGBT or Black categories, and possibly win!111 Imagine the horror.
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Feb 8, 2018 2:16:28 GMT
Haven't been following the whole discussion, but here are some scattered thoughts re: this list.
- Most of these are fine, but Best Film SHOULD NOT be distinguished by category (or genre for that matter). This isn't the golden globes or the teen choice awards, and many films blur the lines between those kinds of categorizations anyway. There's no reason to separate nominees across arbitrary lines like that. We don't need filler categories or consolation prizes for films or performances that aren't good enough to stand in the general fields.
- Youth Performance is also a bad idea. Again, there are plenty of spectacular youth performances that stand up to adult competition. Having a category solely for children is patronizing when young performers get nominated for ICCs quite often. There isn't nearly as much a bias against young performers here than the Globes or AMPAS, so such distinction is completely unnecessary. Not a fan of voiceover either. Echo Stephen's thoughts re: that.
- As for Short Film, do enough of our users watch enough short films to justify having this category? Would there be enough submissions? I kind of doubt it, but y'all can correct me if I'm wrong. I don't watch hardly any shorts at all. There isn't much of of an audience or market for short films. It's hard to come across them unless you actually make a point to go look for them, or unless they become a viral sensation like "In a Heartbeat," and it'd be a shame if people only voted for the most popular ones.
- Also, this list inexplicably excludes (holy shit that's hard to say out loud) sound mixing. I like the idea of having two sound categories, because they both involve different elements. No reason to change that now.
Honestly, I'd be fine with just keeping the awards the way that they are. Maybe throw in one or two new categories (special mentions, best scene, best quote, etc.) on an experimental basis, but the rest of the categories should stay (which means keeping soundtrack, which isn't in the list). It ain't broke, it don't need fixing. If we include new categories, they need to be categories that won't just increase nominee overlap (a young performance could be nominated for three acting categories based on this system) or be consolation prizes (genre stuff).
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Post by dadsburgers on Feb 8, 2018 2:27:37 GMT
1) Great points 2) We absolutely need an AARP's AfroFeminist LGBT Youth category now, to be awarded to any film that qualifies in future years 3) Why the distinction for foreign language performance, particularly over any other distinctions? Because the foreign film experience is largely more varied than LGBT, Black, etc. films and doesn't feel like it's a way of giving minorities credit without actually giving them credit (aka segregating them to their own "thanks for trying, brown lesbian" category. It's patronizing. Foreign films aren't generally predisposed to be "political". I'm of the opinion that if someone doesn't like a (insert minority film "genre" here) enough to nominate it in main categories, then a little gold star doesn't really mean anything. It's artificial. (But I get that that applies to animated and foreign films/performances too, but it's more about the filmmaking, than the people who made it). I would say there are four kinds of film: feature, documentary, animated, and foreign (which overlap throughout). French, German, Taiwanese (language); 3D, handdrawn, claymation; musical, comedy, horror; being subcategories that don't be to be specifically awarded, same as race, gender, or sexuality. Though like someone else said, special one-off awards are fine (let's say if they get an overwhelming number of write-in votes, like 60% of all votes voted to give Greta Gerwig: Best Outstanding Blonde Woman Directing of a Motion Picture: Dramedy 2018), then sure. Or a serious note: If La La Land won "Musical film achievement" or Avatar won "CGI Innovation" or whatever. I also greatly fear that if we have these misc. mandatory categories, then there'd be a one-off year where no one gets enough votes or it's Tyler Perry would be default nominated in LGBT or Black categories, and possibly win!111 Imagine the horror. All good points. I just thought it'd be a nice way to recommend some good niche movies each year but I see what you mean, I wouldn't want it to turn into all that
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Post by dadsburgers on Feb 8, 2018 2:28:31 GMT
2) We absolutely need an AARP's AfroFeminist LGBT Youth category now, to be awarded to any film that qualifies in future years God this better be satire. Don't worry, it is!
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Post by dadsburgers on Feb 8, 2018 2:52:15 GMT
So it sounds like the following are a consensus: 1. Outstanding Motion Picture 2. Outstanding Director 3. Outstanding Original Screenplay 4. Outstanding Adapted Screenplay 5. Outstanding Ensemble Performance 6. Outstanding Lead Actress 7. Outstanding Lead Actor 8. Outstanding Supporting Actress 9. Outstanding Supporting Actor 10. Outstanding Original Score 11. Outstanding Original Song 12. Outstanding Cinematography 13. Outstanding Film Editing 14. Outstanding Production Design 15. Outstanding Costume Design 16. Outstanding Hair & Makeup 17. Outstanding Sound Editing 18. Outstanding Sound Mixing 19. Outstanding Special Visual Effects 20. Outstanding Stunt Coordination & Choreography
These are the main, non-overlapping professional achievement awards.
Then I recommend we take a poll as to which of the following "special" categories to include as well (some more likely to get in than others): 1. Outstanding Foreign Language Film 2. Outstanding Animated Film 3. Outstanding Documentary 4. Fun Awards a. Outstanding Credits Sequence b. Outstanding Quote c. Outstanding Action Sequence d. Outstanding Villain 5. Special Achievement Write-Ins a. Genre Film b. Cultural Representation c. Technical Achievement d. Breakthrough Achievement e. Breadth of Work
Just brainstorms, I'm sure I'm missing something
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Post by idioticbunny on Feb 8, 2018 3:48:25 GMT
So it sounds like the following are a consensus: 1. Outstanding Motion Picture 2. Outstanding Director 3. Outstanding Original Screenplay 4. Outstanding Adapted Screenplay 5. Outstanding Ensemble Performance 6. Outstanding Lead Actress 7. Outstanding Lead Actor 8. Outstanding Supporting Actress 9. Outstanding Supporting Actor 10. Outstanding Original Score 11. Outstanding Original Song 12. Outstanding Cinematography 13. Outstanding Film Editing 14. Outstanding Production Design 15. Outstanding Costume Design 16. Outstanding Hair & Makeup 17. Outstanding Sound Editing 18. Outstanding Sound Mixing 19. Outstanding Special Visual Effects 20. Outstanding Stunt Coordination & Choreography These are the main, non-overlapping professional achievement awards. Then I recommend we take a poll as to which of the following "special" categories to include as well (some more likely to get in than others): 1. Outstanding Foreign Language Film 2. Outstanding Animated Film 3. Outstanding Documentary 4. Fun Awards a. Outstanding Credits Sequence b. Outstanding Quote c. Outstanding Action Sequence d. Outstanding Villain 5. Special Achievement Write-Ins a. Genre Film b. Cultural Representation c. Technical Achievement d. Breakthrough Achievement e. Breadth of Work Just brainstorms, I'm sure I'm missing something I think Foreign Language Film, Animated Film, and Documentary should be included in that first half without question. They're part of the typical categories we include. As for the rest, I'd be happy with Credits Sequence, Breakthrough Artist (not limited to actors), and Performer of the Year (aka Breadth of Work) since we included the latter in the ICCs previously as well.
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Post by Martin Stett on Feb 8, 2018 4:06:49 GMT
No matter how I cut it, I just don't think I could find more than one or two halfway decent credits sequences in a year. If that. Out of all that you mention, only Deadpool is in any way noteworthy by my book. It's entirely subjective, of course. I compare the credits sequences of any Hollywood movie to stuff like Baccano! Death Parade, Paprika, Paranoia Agent or Serial Experiments Lain and see a gulf in how well the credits sequences mesh with the story and a wider gulf in how well they get you excited for what will follow. The way Baccano gives you a second long glimpse at each of the characters and their personalities (Ladd throwing a dart next to Lua's head, betraying that he has little regard for her, Jac pulling Nice away from an explosion in panic as she grins like a madwoman and halfheartedly follows) or the way that Lain sticks you inside of the protagonist's head as she navigates the alien world around her -- these are great, great pieces of worldbuilding that I'm happy to honor, I just think that things like this roll around very rarely. I wouldn't be averse to a category, but I don't think that I could come up with anything. I've not actually seen any of the films you listed there, but I'm sure it's all subjective as you say. I do wish that every filmmaker put thought into every aspect of the film, credit sequences included. I'm not a fan of them just being pasted over scenes, but if they are - like in the case of Baby Driver and Good Time - at least allow them to set you up for the world you're about to dive into, which I believe those films certainly do. Either way, these are just category ideas. And as it's one odd one I include every year, I figured it might be fun to include here as well. But that's ultimately not up to me either way. I'll just be happy if we include any unique ones. That's why I included links to each credits sequence. To be clear, I have nothing against the category suggestion. Hell, I'd be open to its inclusion if this goes up for a vote. It's just that I personally find credits sequences to be a measure that tends to get in the way in many films (and enhance many others, don't get me wrong). In short, I'm just being a spoilsport on something I don't really care about either way, but I felt like being argumentative today.
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Post by idioticbunny on Feb 8, 2018 4:19:56 GMT
Martin StettHaha, no problem. It's better to have arguments over film than on the many other things people get in arguments about here, so it's all good with me, my friend. I thought those were just links to their IMDB pages, so I didn't click on them. But that's cool. I'll probably still hold off as I prefer to see films in their entirety (I even avoid trailers where I can), but thanks for the recommendations as now I have some to add to the Watchlist!
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Post by Schiggy on Feb 8, 2018 5:48:50 GMT
Animated film, foreign film, and documentary should be standard.
I agree about short film not being common enough to likely fill out (and would be easier to make it "best short film" in general, no best short feature/documentary/animated distinction). Maybe that could be an announced winner instead of nominees if there's not enough votes to make a lineup.
And in general to get rid of ties (I despise ties with a passion), is to give the win to whichever person/film got the highest votes first (as determined from timestamp on ballot).
I like the idea for best quotes. But sometimes people will include a whole monologue when referencing a "best quote." It should be limited to 2 sentences; preferably 1, if possible.
Action scene seems too specific and useless. What about best scene (in general)? Again, limiting it to something that's not overlong.
I would love to see "Best New Film Characters" (just announce the top 3-5 winners, with no nominees).
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Post by Martin Stett on Feb 8, 2018 5:53:32 GMT
Martin Stett Haha, no problem. It's better to have arguments over film than on the many other things people get in arguments about here, so it's all good with me, my friend. I thought those were just links to their IMDB pages, so I didn't click on them. But that's cool. I'll probably still hold off as I prefer to see films in their entirety (I even avoid trailers where I can), but thanks for the recommendations as now I have some to add to the Watchlist! Actually, they're all TV shows, with the exception of Paprika. Most of these will serve as your very first introduction into these worlds. One note: Death Parade is pretty lousy, but its opening credit song was too lovely for me to ignore.
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