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Post by TerryMontana on Aug 30, 2019 17:49:37 GMT
Seeing it in a while.
I hope the reviews are wrong...
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Post by TerryMontana on Aug 30, 2019 20:36:44 GMT
OK, just saw this.
I liked it, I give it a 6-6.5/10. In my mind it's better than his last films (Cafe Society, Irrational Man, Magic in the Moonlight). I could say it reminded me a lot of To Rome With Love.
It's not a very funny movie but almost everything you wait to see in a Woody Allen film is there: Sharp and hilarious quotes, sarcasm, fast talking, love triangles, irony and of course, New York.
The film looks like a love letter to Allen's favorite city. He's done a lot of movies around many cities in Europe but he always goes back to NYC. He loves it and he loves it misty and rainy. And that's exactly why the two leads are worlds apart. Chalamet's character likes New York's uncertainty and melancholy. Fanning loves the order in her life, the sun and the colors.
It's a bittersweet movie, full of nostalgia for the lost youth (girls attracted by older men etc), life (which is fine only when you can't do any better) and the old cinema.
Chalamet is good in his part, actually playing a Woody Allen persona, the type of character Allen himself used to play in his younger days (except from his insecurity). Fanning was really enjoyable as the innocent country girl who all of a sudden bumps into the star system in a chaotic city. The dialogue between Chalamet and Gomez plus Jude Law's character were the funniest bits.
All in all, an entertaining movie but a very flat one if you compare it with ie. Blue Jasmine or Match Point, Vicky Christina Barcelona... And of course don't wait for a new Manhattan, you're not getting it.
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Post by Mattsby on Aug 30, 2019 20:50:18 GMT
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Post by countjohn on Aug 30, 2019 21:05:51 GMT
It's a win for artistic freedom/general good sense that this got released at all.
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Post by Mattsby on Sept 1, 2019 3:15:30 GMT
I was just thinking......Why wouldn't Netflix pick this up? Not that money is an issue for them but they could probably get it for relatively cheap and could drop it in September to spur some Chalamet dialogue before The King, or a bit later and bid for a Comedy/Musical GG nod for Chalamet/Elle Fanning. Less of a theatrical release, while not ideal and probably chin-itch Woody Allen, how else will you get it out in the US?, and it'll cause less of an outcry from the usuals. I get "the culture" has changed, but WA's situation certainly hasn't, and if it has it's way in his favor - with Moses coming forward, etc - and who are these buggy US execs afraid of a bright romcom starring multiple globally vogue celebrities????
It'd kinda be a really badass Netflix move, standing up for Cinema! why suppress a movie (any movie) like this, one that is being released in like 30 countries around the world already, so...
also Ted Sarandos has said he's a Woody Allen fan!
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Post by Mattsby on Sept 18, 2019 21:22:31 GMT
Indiewire negative, of course, and they say "snow-globe reimagining of the Upper East Side" like it's a bad thing. Here's a translation from a French reviewer (site Le Point) - "Fluid and light as a trap" is a great little line.
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Post by Mattsby on Sept 18, 2019 21:26:50 GMT
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Post by pacinoyes on Dec 7, 2019 20:20:25 GMT
Not sure if there's another thread for this but ~6/10Actually far funnier than some recent Allen comedies to me but in an isolated hit the drum rim shot kind of way, not like a flowing film - also far more profane one joke regarding blowjobs at Jewish holidays was great in a where did that come from! Woody way Chalamet is quite weak in the narration here - and the narration isn't greatly written either, so that doesn't help but he's better at the characterization. Fanning is the best thing in it - sweet and ditzy, and Gomez, while very game doesn't convince. To me this is a lesser film than Wonder Wheel (which had almost 0 jokes on purpose) which I liked more than most and had much more on its mind. Still you know what's up, if you love him you get a couple new zingers here, if you hate him this ain't changing your mind......
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Post by quetee on Dec 7, 2019 20:49:17 GMT
How are you guys watching this movie?
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Post by LaraQ on Dec 7, 2019 20:54:03 GMT
How are you guys watching this movie? Its leaked,I haven't watched it but there are links on Twitter.
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Post by Mattsby on Dec 7, 2019 21:01:49 GMT
5/10 or so. I'd say 6 if it ended without Gomez showing up Chalamet isn't so good, but Fanning nearly saves the entire thing, naive and supremely bubbly and kinda infectiously elated. The movie is okay, it felt like it was getting better as it went on but I was actually distracted by Vittorio Storaro's clunky camerawork and lighting, and the supp cast feels throwaway. Some good lines, like "The world is full of tragic little deal-breakers." One trivia thing, Chalamet's dorm room in the beginning you can see Veronica Lake's name on a This Gun For Hire poster
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Post by Zeb31 on Dec 20, 2019 21:47:02 GMT
Reading that cast list I didn't expect this to be my takeaway, but it's actually Selena Gomez that steals this entire film. She's so effortless and natural in a way that hardly anyone else here is; she's the only one playing a real, believable human being as opposed to delivering a Woody Allen impersonation party trick, and that's why her scenes are such a delight. (To be fair, Cherry Jones does come close, and performs as well as anyone could've given what was on the page. She adds a great deal of humanity to her afterthought of a character, but she can only do so much with her 3 minutes of screentime.)
So, this ain't it. I've actually quite enjoyed Allen's latter-day output for what it's been, even though it's painfully clear that after Midnight in Paris and Blue Jasmine he's been more than content to take his first drafts into production without bothering to revise them. Even at his slightest and most inconsequential (Magic in the Moonlight, Irrational Man) his films remain too enjoyable to completely disregard, and I'd actually argue that Café Society and Wonder Wheel are considerably underrated and feature not only spectacular cinematography and period design but also two genuinely fantastic performances (Stewart and Winslet, respectively).
So while I didn't expect much from A Rainy Day in New York, I imagined there'd be something here to chew on and make it a worthwhile watch. And indeed, there's the aforementioned Gomez and Jones; there's Elle Fanning wrestling with the dialogue (I s h o u l d n ' t i m b i b e s o c o p i o u s l y) but generally selling it with the right amount of sweetness, and there's a handful of great one liners sprinkled throughout. But it's all just too slight and formless; many of its scenes don't go anywhere or build to unsatisfying pay-offs (see the bit with Gatsby's sister-in-law and her laugh, for example), and every single character outside of the main trio and maybe Jones is a one-note 5-minute cameo. (Quite literally, in some instances; Rebecca Hall has 2 minutes on screen.) The whole film amounts to a string of rehashed, mismatched skits that Allen has done better elsewhere, tied together without any flair or directorial vision (never before has he been this much on auto-pilot behind the camera), and entirely lacking in purpose. Even Storaro's cinematography is disappointingly flat and artificial, often faltering with excessively bright colors and clumsy zoom-ins that made it feel like a Hong Sangsoo film at times.
Also (yes, this is getting its own paragraph), Chalamet is terrible here. Terrrrrible. The name alone should've been enough to give it away from the get-go, but his Gatsby Wells (yep) is the most detestable character of the year with considerable ease, thanks both to the script and to Chalamet's charmless smugness. This and Beautiful Boy are not a flattering one-two punch, and though I was already conducting my life as if The King didn't exist, then after this the odds of me sitting through that are fast approaching non-existence.
So yeah, a letdown. For die-hard Allen enthusiasts only.
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Post by theycallmemrfish on Dec 20, 2019 21:52:55 GMT
Also (yes, this is getting its own paragraph), Chalamet is terrible here. Terrrrrible. The most detestable character of the year with considerable ease, thanks both to the script and to Chalamet's charmless smugness. This and Beautiful Boy are not a flattering one-two punch. You can't say that! He donated his SAG-scale wages to the women!
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Post by Zeb31 on Dec 20, 2019 22:03:06 GMT
You can't say that! He donated his SAG-scale wages to the women! I might reconsider if he shows his true solidarity to victims worldwide and donates whatever he earned from Beautiful Boy to all of us who sat through it.
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Post by PromNightCarrie on Dec 21, 2019 19:24:07 GMT
Also (yes, this is getting its own paragraph), Chalamet is terrible here. Terrrrrible. The most detestable character of the year with considerable ease, thanks both to the script and to Chalamet's charmless smugness. This and Beautiful Boy are not a flattering one-two punch. You can't say that! He donated his SAG-scale wages to the women! If that didn't scream "Look at me! I'm doing good! Now save my image for my career!" I don't know what does.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2022 15:04:15 GMT
I know I'm extremely late, but I just now got around to this after having it on my Prime watchlist for like 3 years. This is comfortably the worst Woody Allen film I've ever seen (I haven't seen everything, but I've seen a lot) - it reads like an Allen parody due to twenty-somethings speaking this dialogue, and I see that Gomez is getting a lot of praise on this forum, but... for me, no performance could have survived this screenplay. Amazon was right to shelve this.
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