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Post by wilcinema on Jan 16, 2018 22:18:07 GMT
PTA has some terrific long takes in his films throughout his career though He's notably drifted from the long take in recent years, although he loves keeping the camera on actors' faces for longer than the norm. He figured that out after his accidental forty-second oner on Wahlberg's face in Boogie Nights and he uses it to great effect in There Will Be Blood and The Master. I could still see him using Lubezki; there were several times in Inherent Vice that I felt Elswit was cribbing from Chivo's style. One that's always stuck in my mind is the one long take of Eli healing the arthritical woman and then going on that disturbing crescendo. That one was fantastic. Also, how didn't Paul Dano get nominated?
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Post by stephen on Jan 16, 2018 22:28:55 GMT
Suttree is meant to be semi-autobiographical, so yeah, McCarthy was in his early thirties at the time, but I don't think it's required that he be that age. Hell, Keaton could still work; it adds a fatherly spin on his relationship with Harrogate. It just might complicate things with the already inappropriate age gap between Sut and Wanda (which might be excised if need be). One that's always stuck in my mind is the one long take of Eli healing the arthritical woman and then going on that disturbing crescendo. That one was fantastic. Also, how didn't Paul Dano get nominated? That, and the scene where Plainview carries the wounded H.W. while the derrick spouts oil behind him. Both of which contribute to a very deserved Best Cinematography win for Bob Elswit. But those moments aren't as showy as the obvious Scorsese-esque long takes of Boogie Nights. And then you look at The Master, which is arguably the best cinematography of the decade (yes, even over The Tree of Life), where you have some semi-lengthy shots such as the slow crossfade of Phoenix running in Salinas to him boarding the Alethia. PTA's slowly but surely been shedding the old tricks from his heroes and coming up with his own style.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2018 22:37:59 GMT
Cutting twenty minutes of Magnolia Some pretty cool stuff there, thanks for sharing.
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Post by wilcinema on Jan 16, 2018 22:49:04 GMT
One that's always stuck in my mind is the one long take of Eli healing the arthritical woman and then going on that disturbing crescendo. That one was fantastic. Also, how didn't Paul Dano get nominated? That, and the scene where Plainview carries the wounded H.W. while the derrick spouts oil behind him. Both of which contribute to a very deserved Best Cinematography win for Bob Elswit. But those moments aren't as showy as the obvious Scorsese-esque long takes of Boogie Nights. And then you look at The Master, which is arguably the best cinematography of the decade (yes, even over The Tree of Life), where you have some semi-lengthy shots such as the slow crossfade of Phoenix running in Salinas to him boarding the Alethia. PTA's slowly but surely been shedding the old tricks from his heroes and coming up with his own style. Yep, definitely. That's why I'm curious as to whom he'll choose for director of photography next. I've always thought that someone like Dante Spinotti or even Deakins would be excellent cinematographers for a PTA movie, but if the man himself picks Chivo, so be it! It'd be incredibly exciting. I'm actually curious if he's willing to do it himself again, after he did it for Phantom Thread.
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Post by wilcinema on Jan 16, 2018 22:50:36 GMT
Cutting twenty minutes of Magnolia I know, right? It's not a perfect movie but I love it as it is. I understand what he means though. After almost 20 years, especially with the maturity he has now, he probably has a different view now to the one he had when he said that he wouldn't make anything better than that.
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Post by FrancescoAbides on Jan 16, 2018 23:39:54 GMT
The Master getting snubbed for Best Cinematography is the greatest crime/snub of the century so far
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Post by theycallmemrfish on Jan 16, 2018 23:48:39 GMT
Side ni=ote: always forget PTA got neither screenplay or director nods for The Master. Pity.
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Post by stephen on Jan 17, 2018 3:44:17 GMT
What about Ron Livingston for Suttree. An intriguing proposition. Livingston is a very underrated actor, and I consider his turn in Band of Brothers to be all-time great. He also is adept at comedy (I nominate him for Office Space). My only complaint is he comes off a bit too white-collar for the role; even at his low points as the habitual boozehound in Band of Brothers, he never came off as utterly and shamelessly debauched as ol' Sut gets. But it's a start.
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Post by Christ_Ian_Bale on Jan 17, 2018 5:57:50 GMT
Maybe I just haven't seen it in a long time, but I honestly can't think of 20 minutes that could be cut from Magnolia.
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Post by Lord_Buscemi on Jan 17, 2018 6:05:41 GMT
Maybe I just haven't seen it in a long time, but I honestly can't think of 20 minutes that could be cut from Magnolia. Honestly, nothing should be cut. It's perfect the way it is.
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Post by countjohn on Jan 17, 2018 6:12:06 GMT
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Post by Allenism on Jan 17, 2018 17:06:45 GMT
He wants to work with Tiffany Haddish. I'm climaxing.
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Post by theycallmemrfish on Jan 17, 2018 17:08:02 GMT
Maybe I just haven't seen it in a long time, but I honestly can't think of 20 minutes that could be cut from Magnolia. Julianne. Moore.
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Post by stephen on Jan 17, 2018 17:14:37 GMT
Maybe I just haven't seen it in a long time, but I honestly can't think of 20 minutes that could be cut from Magnolia. Julianne. Moore. I cannot like this post enough. Seriously, you could cut her and Macy's subplots and lose absolutely nothing of real substance.
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Post by wilcinema on Jan 17, 2018 17:26:14 GMT
I cannot like this post enough. Seriously, you could cut her and Macy's subplots and lose absolutely nothing of real substance. I agree on Moore, but I don't know about Macy. I like that analogy with Stanley's life.
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Post by stephen on Jan 17, 2018 17:58:54 GMT
I cannot like this post enough. Seriously, you could cut her and Macy's subplots and lose absolutely nothing of real substance. I agree on Moore, but I don't know about Macy. I like that analogy with Stanley's life. Yeah, but Stanley isn't quite as crucial to the core story, either. In terms of importance: TIER 1: Cruise/Robards; Reilly/Walters/Hall TIER 2: Blackman (he ties in more to Hall's story, but not as essentially as Walters does); Grace (interacts solely with Cruise, but her importance in deconstructing Frank T.J. Mackey's identity is crucial to him being able to come to terms with Robards); Hoffman (functions in much the same way as Grace does, only with Robards) TIER 3: Macy (ties into Blackman's story and, tangentially, Hall's and Reilly's at the end); Moore (has no connection with Cruise and her dynamic with Robards is minimal, so despite being the loudest character in the piece she's also the most irrelevant)
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Post by wonky on Jan 17, 2018 18:19:32 GMT
You absolutely need to listen to PTA's podcast with Marc Maron. It's two-and-a-half hours of incredible insight. PTA says of Magnolia that a good hour could and should be sliced from it. I agree with him there too! I think he got carried away after Boogie Nights for a while there. I'm sure he would do a lot of things differently today. Thanks for the suggestion. I will. I wonder how he would have answered the Gravity's Rainbow question. That also pops up in the Maron interview haha. I think he admitted he could never get through it but he felt like he could probably do it now post-Inherent Vice.
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Post by FrancescoAbides on Jan 17, 2018 20:15:21 GMT
I cannot like this post enough. Seriously, you could cut her and Macy's subplots and lose absolutely nothing of real substance. You SHAME ON YOU. SHAME ON YOU. SHAME ON BOTH OF YOU. Jk, she is fucking awful in the movie
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Post by stephen on Jan 17, 2018 22:43:00 GMT
PTA also answered questions here: link
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Post by Mattsby on Jan 17, 2018 23:20:41 GMT
From the Twitter Q&A..... his favorite De Palma is The Untouchables?
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Post by PromNightCarrie on Jan 18, 2018 1:50:49 GMT
Catch Me if You Can is my favorite DiCaprio performance too. You know you're a real film fan when someone asks you to name favorite film by ______ and you list multiple films instead of one. He did that several times.
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