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Post by Ryan_MYeah on Dec 14, 2017 18:37:16 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2017 18:53:00 GMT
People are overreacting about this tbh
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Post by Martin Stett on Dec 14, 2017 19:59:35 GMT
I don't get my mother. She is absolutely against this repeal and about 60% of everything else the Republicans are doing, because the Republicans have gone insane. But she'd never consider voting the other way. To be fair, the democrats are just as insane, but it is possible that a rational voice could come from either side of the aisle, and simply dismissing one because of their party is irresponsible. But then, irresponsible is how I would describe pretty much everyone I've ever met, so I guess that's just a cool thing.
As for my personal thoughts: This isn't going to be huge, that's not how the bad guys work. Two months after this is finalized, nobody will care. Except for the people this actually matters to, the ones whose businesses will be hurt by this decision. It's no different than Ratface McAullife putting ridiculous road tolls on NoVa, except that the money won't be going to irresponsible government, but greedy corporations. "If you want to get to work in the morning/If you want to get your product out there, you've gotta pay the toll."
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Post by quetee on Dec 14, 2017 20:17:23 GMT
These people are supposed to represent what the people want and I believe 85% are against this. 17 states are already suing.
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Post by dazed on Dec 15, 2017 4:22:04 GMT
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Post by mikediastavrone96 on Dec 15, 2017 18:56:19 GMT
ISPs are going to be subtle about this and follow the example Comcast set out: throttle services during peak usage times (that way they can pretend they aren't actually doing anything). After a little bit of time with that, they'll then release new packages with some gimmick about "priority" data usage at advanced prices and those packages will just have normal non-throttled service.
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Post by IceTruckDexter on Dec 15, 2017 23:41:07 GMT
These people are supposed to represent what the people want and I believe 85% are against this. 17 states are already suing. Tell me why are people so obsessed about this? People keep saying the internet won't be free after this. It already isn't free. Net Neutrality is one big kickback to the big service providers while fucking over the little ones. I swear people don't get what competition really is.
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Post by IceTruckDexter on Dec 15, 2017 23:43:24 GMT
ISPs are going to be subtle about this and follow the example Comcast set out: throttle services during peak usage times (that way they can pretend they aren't actually doing anything). After a little bit of time with that, they'll then release new packages with some gimmick about "priority" data usage at advanced prices and those packages will just have normal non-throttled service. Yeah and once everyone finds out they're doing this then they'll lose a lot of customers. There's no benefit for companies like Comcast (who I'm pretty sure supported Net Neutrality) to fuck around with data usage.
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Post by quetee on Dec 16, 2017 0:42:08 GMT
ISPs are going to be subtle about this and follow the example Comcast set out: throttle services during peak usage times (that way they can pretend they aren't actually doing anything). After a little bit of time with that, they'll then release new packages with some gimmick about "priority" data usage at advanced prices and those packages will just have normal non-throttled service. Yeah and once everyone finds out they're doing this then they'll lose a lot of customers. There's no benefit for companies like Comcast (who I'm pretty sure supported Net Neutrality) to fuck around with data usage. comcast did not support it. They spent millions lobbying against it.
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Post by IceTruckDexter on Dec 16, 2017 1:16:07 GMT
Yeah and once everyone finds out they're doing this then they'll lose a lot of customers. There's no benefit for companies like Comcast (who I'm pretty sure supported Net Neutrality) to fuck around with data usage. comcast did not support it. They spent millions lobbying against it. Well some big service provider heavily supported it.
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Post by dazed on Dec 16, 2017 1:19:56 GMT
ISPs are going to be subtle about this and follow the example Comcast set out: throttle services during peak usage times (that way they can pretend they aren't actually doing anything). After a little bit of time with that, they'll then release new packages with some gimmick about "priority" data usage at advanced prices and those packages will just have normal non-throttled service. Yeah and once everyone finds out they're doing this then they'll lose a lot of customers. There's no benefit for companies like Comcast (who I'm pretty sure supported Net Neutrality) to fuck around with data usage. Comcast, Verizon, and AT&T were all for the repeal of net neutrality. Admittedly, I don’t know a whole lot about the issue, but the people that do know about it are pissed off. I haven’t seen any compelling arguments to repeal net neutrality, and the people that try to argue for it seem to not a know enough about it. I’m not sure how big of an impact this will cause, but it’s clearly a huge cash grab for the ISPs.
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Post by IceTruckDexter on Dec 16, 2017 1:25:35 GMT
Yeah and once everyone finds out they're doing this then they'll lose a lot of customers. There's no benefit for companies like Comcast (who I'm pretty sure supported Net Neutrality) to fuck around with data usage. Comcast, Verizon, and AT&T were all for the repeal of net neutrality. Admittedly, I don’t know a whole lot about the issue, but the people that do know about it are pissed off. I haven’t seen any compelling arguments to repeal net neutrality, and the people that try to argue for it seem to not a know enough about it. I’m not sure how big of an impact this will cause, but it’s clearly a huge cash grab for the ISPs. It's no different than any other product you buy but the government insisted on trying to regulate it. Do you honestly think a heavily regulated market builds competition or does it support the big boys?
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Post by dazed on Dec 16, 2017 1:38:56 GMT
Comcast, Verizon, and AT&T were all for the repeal of net neutrality. Admittedly, I don’t know a whole lot about the issue, but the people that do know about it are pissed off. I haven’t seen any compelling arguments to repeal net neutrality, and the people that try to argue for it seem to not a know enough about it. I’m not sure how big of an impact this will cause, but it’s clearly a huge cash grab for the ISPs. It's no different than any other product you buy but the government insisted on trying to regulate it. Do you honestly think a heavily regulated market builds competition or does it support the big boys? I’m pretty sure getting rid of net neutrality creates less competion, no? Net neutrality levels the playing field to being more fair, and without it big corporations such as Comcast can throttle content from any companies that won’t play by their rules, especially smaller companies. Net neutrality just made it so the internet could stay the same way as it always was if I’m not mistaken.
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Post by IceTruckDexter on Dec 16, 2017 1:54:49 GMT
It's no different than any other product you buy but the government insisted on trying to regulate it. Do you honestly think a heavily regulated market builds competition or does it support the big boys? I’m pretty sure getting rid of net neutrality creates less competion, no? It levels the playing field to being more fair, and without it big corporations such as Comcast can throttle content from small companies. Net neutrality just made it so the internet could stay the same way as it always was if I’m not mistaken. Fraid not lad. NN gives the government regulatory power to control the bandwidth and speed at which the sites land on your computer, phone, whatever. It basically means that every site even the shitty ones must go at the same speed as the likes of Youtube or twitter. Now if the smaller companies make a superior product to compete against the likes of AT&T and Comcast then they'd be forced to stay in those same regulations even though they have a superior product.
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Post by quetee on Dec 16, 2017 2:01:15 GMT
comcast did not support it. They spent millions lobbying against it. Well some big service provider heavily supported it. the supports were companies such as amazon. Facebook and twitter. I believe google also. They spent about 25% of what the isp's spent. Just looking at who supported and who didn't reveals a lot.
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Post by PromNightCarrie on Dec 16, 2017 2:20:03 GMT
ISPs are going to be subtle about this and follow the example Comcast set out: throttle services during peak usage times (that way they can pretend they aren't actually doing anything). After a little bit of time with that, they'll then release new packages with some gimmick about "priority" data usage at advanced prices and those packages will just have normal non-throttled service. Comcast put me against the wall with their bullshit.
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Post by dazed on Dec 16, 2017 2:33:52 GMT
I’m pretty sure getting rid of net neutrality creates less competion, no? It levels the playing field to being more fair, and without it big corporations such as Comcast can throttle content from small companies. Net neutrality just made it so the internet could stay the same way as it always was if I’m not mistaken. Fraid not lad. NN gives the government regulatory power to control the bandwidth and speed at which the sites land on your computer, phone, whatever. It basically means that every site even the shitty ones must go at the same speed as the likes of Youtube or twitter. Now if the smaller companies make a superior product to compete against the likes of AT&T and Comcast then they'd be forced to stay in those same regulations even though they have a superior product. But from what I’ve been reading, without net neutrality smaller companies wouldn’t have a fair shot since they’d have to pay fees to ISPs, which generally startup companies won’t have compared to bigger companies such as Ebay and Amazon, thus leading to less competition and ruining innovation. Going back to what Mike said, if that happens, tons of people won’t even have choice to change their ISPs since there’s only one option for an ISP in a lot of areas. It’s an oligopoly.
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Post by IceTruckDexter on Dec 16, 2017 4:07:39 GMT
Fraid not lad. NN gives the government regulatory power to control the bandwidth and speed at which the sites land on your computer, phone, whatever. It basically means that every site even the shitty ones must go at the same speed as the likes of Youtube or twitter. Now if the smaller companies make a superior product to compete against the likes of AT&T and Comcast then they'd be forced to stay in those same regulations even though they have a superior product. But from what I’ve been reading, without net neutrality smaller companies wouldn’t have a fair shot since they’d have to pay fees to ISPs, which generally startup companies won’t have compared to bigger companies such as Ebay and Amazon, thus leading to less competition and ruining innovation. Going back to what Mike said, if that happens, tons of people won’t even have choice to change their ISPs since there’s only one option for an ISP in a lot of areas. It’s an oligopoly. They have to pay fees anyway which is another bullshit lie.
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Post by therealcomicman117 on Dec 16, 2017 8:16:37 GMT
Yeah and once everyone finds out they're doing this then they'll lose a lot of customers. There's no benefit for companies like Comcast (who I'm pretty sure supported Net Neutrality) to fuck around with data usage. comcast did not support it. They spent millions lobbying against it. Comcost pushed for this. Don't be fooled. They're a bad company.
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Post by therealcomicman117 on Dec 16, 2017 8:17:39 GMT
This isn't over yet guys. This is going to court. Donate.
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Post by Joaquim on Dec 16, 2017 8:55:42 GMT
comcast did not support it. They spent millions lobbying against it. Comcost pushed for this. Don't be fooled. They're a bad company. Yea, dude, fuck Comcost. I’ve had enough of their tricks!
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Post by Joaquim on Dec 16, 2017 8:56:25 GMT
This isn't over yet guys. This is going to court. Donate. My internet is still working.
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Post by therealcomicman117 on Dec 16, 2017 16:23:53 GMT
This isn't over yet guys. This is going to court. Donate. My internet is still working. The official rollback hasn't happened yet. We've still got a few weeks. It also depends on the service you use.
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Post by Joaquim on Dec 16, 2017 17:33:55 GMT
My internet is still working. The official rollback hasn't happened yet. We've still got a few weeks. It also depends on the service you use. I told my girlfriend’s son that if his mother doesn’t pay the bills on time the head of the FCC will rape his dog. He’s been crying uncontrollably for 2 hours straight. This is the effect ending net neutrality has on our kids.
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Post by therealcomicman117 on Dec 16, 2017 20:20:33 GMT
The official rollback hasn't happened yet. We've still got a few weeks. It also depends on the service you use. I told my girlfriend’s son that if his mother doesn’t pay the bills on time the head of the FCC will rape his dog. He’s been crying uncontrollably for 2 hours straight. This is the effect ending net neutrality has on our kids. Kid won't be able to grow-up with free and safe internet. That's just sad.
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