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Post by Barbie on May 25, 2021 2:20:42 GMT
I don’t know enough about the issue to have much of an opinion on it. From the little that I do know, it’d be hard for me to support Israel. Palestine has it’s issues too though by the sounds of it. Feel free to DM me if you have questions.
For now, I suggest checking out the really informative (and beautifully illustrated) website www.decolonizepalestine.com. There's also a documentary called Roadmap to Apartheid on Amazon Prime that gives an overview of what life is like in Palestine/Israel. It's horrifying
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Post by Barbie on May 25, 2021 2:22:26 GMT
I'm sure you would've been pro-apartheid regime in South Africa right?
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Post by Archie on May 25, 2021 2:57:37 GMT
17 MAR members are uneducated, brainwashed, awful human beings apparently. Good to know.
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Post by hugobolso on May 25, 2021 2:59:45 GMT
Of course your stupid Nazi ass is pro-Israel. Didn't you say you were going to kill yourself a couple months ago? What happened to that? Barbie Darling, you are such a Nazionalist Socialist.-
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Post by hugobolso on May 25, 2021 3:12:36 GMT
The fascist xenophobic braindead crackpot who supported genocidal blood-thirsty far right dictatorships in 1980's South America supports genocide & war crimes from the Israeli butchers...that's all you needed to know, folks! El Mundo sera un sitio mucho mas decente cuando enfermizos pedazos de mierda como tu se vuelen los putos sesos en grupos de 20 o 30. Cucarachas psicopatas como tu son exactamente como los desgraciados alemanes que apoyaron el Tercer Reich. No hay limites para los dolores y las tragedias que pendejos como tu se MERECEN en el futuro!! 🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕 Los nazis que quedaron en la RDA se hicieron llamar antifascistas.- Yo tan Peter Fletcher, tu tan Honecker.-
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Post by HELENA MARIA on May 25, 2021 7:26:42 GMT
Barbie A little educational video for you ^^^^ (and for everyone for that matter). I would also like to point out that I do not condone violence from EITHER side .
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Post by HELENA MARIA on May 25, 2021 8:21:43 GMT
In light of recent events , has your opinion changed ? Yes, I went from tepid support for a two-state solution to now being one-state Palestine, shaped by Palestinians, and a government for all people regardless of race and religionOne of the most inane and dangerous things I've ever read. Yes, by all means let's destroy the state of Israel ! Your antisemitism is showing big time !
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Post by HELENA MARIA on May 25, 2021 8:27:51 GMT
"We did not come here seeking to delegitimize a state established years ago, and that is Israel."Mahmoud Abbas (Palestinian Authority leader)
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2021 13:20:58 GMT
Let's say I am more anti-British colonialism than anything else.
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Post by Barbie on May 25, 2021 21:14:59 GMT
Yes, I went from tepid support for a two-state solution to now being one-state Palestine, shaped by Palestinians, and a government for all people regardless of race and religionOne of the most inane and dangerous things I've ever read. Yes, by all means let's destroy the state of Israel ! Your antisemitism is showing big time ! It’s not antisemitic to not support a fucking ETHNOSTATE that was founded upon ethnic cleansing. Plenty of anti-Zionist Jewish people feel this way. A lot of my views on Palestine have been shaped by leftist Jewish people. I also don’t give a fuck what Abbas said. Bantustans in South Africa had their own governments that were basically puppets of the apartheid regime. That’s the case with Abbas. No offense but you really don’t know what you’re talking about. You sound exactly like defenders of South Africa, the Third Reich, Jim Crow, etc. You’re on the wrong side of history, and history spits on your bigotry
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Post by Barbie on May 25, 2021 21:22:21 GMT
Looks like the israel lobby got to him and Marvel. What a spineless coward
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Post by Joaquim on May 25, 2021 22:56:21 GMT
Yes, I went from tepid support for a two-state solution to now being one-state Palestine, shaped by Palestinians, and a government for all people regardless of race and religionOne of the most inane and dangerous things I've ever read. Yes, by all means let's destroy the state of Israel ! Your antisemitism is showing big time ! The state of Israel, as well as most states in the Middle East and Africa, only exist bc a European diplomat said so
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Post by HELENA MARIA on May 26, 2021 0:33:37 GMT
Looks like the israel lobby got to him and Marvel. What a spineless coward So he's a coward for denouncing the rise of violent antisemitic attacks against Jews all over the world? Jews who have nothing to do with the actions of the Israeli government? Yeah, bye girl! 🤢🤮But then again, you're the ignoramus who wants the destruction of the State of Israel so I'm not surprised. At least, I believe in a possibility of reconciliation between Israelis and Palestinians. Makes you wonder who's actually the real bigot here! 😑🖕
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Post by HELENA MARIA on May 26, 2021 0:53:24 GMT
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Post by HELENA MARIA on May 26, 2021 1:11:07 GMT
One of the most inane and dangerous things I've ever read. Yes, by all means let's destroy the state of Israel ! Your antisemitism is showing big time ! It’s not antisemitic to not support a fucking ETHNOSTATE that was founded upon ethnic cleansing. Plenty of anti-Zionist Jewish people feel this way. A lot of my views on Palestine have been shaped by leftist Jewish people. I also don’t give a fuck what Abbas said. Bantustans in South Africa had their own governments that were basically puppets of the apartheid regime. That’s the case with Abbas. No offense but you really don’t know what you’re talking about. You sound exactly like defenders of South Africa, the Third Reich, Jim Crow, etc. You’re on the wrong side of history, and history spits on your bigotry Considering that I'm part Black, I highly doubt that 😁
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2021 2:03:38 GMT
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Post by Barbie on May 26, 2021 2:10:23 GMT
It’s not antisemitic to not support a fucking ETHNOSTATE that was founded upon ethnic cleansing. Plenty of anti-Zionist Jewish people feel this way. A lot of my views on Palestine have been shaped by leftist Jewish people. I also don’t give a fuck what Abbas said. Bantustans in South Africa had their own governments that were basically puppets of the apartheid regime. That’s the case with Abbas. No offense but you really don’t know what you’re talking about. You sound exactly like defenders of South Africa, the Third Reich, Jim Crow, etc. You’re on the wrong side of history, and history spits on your bigotry Considering that I'm part Black, I highly doubt that 😁 What does you being part black have to do with anything? That doesn’t mean you can’t be stupid and have internalized racism. You say that now but had you been alive during those periods on history, you would’ve 100% been a Status Quo Warrior ass bitch Also, it just makes you look bad that you have black heritage and you support a country that horrendously mistreats black Jewish people. Israel sterilized Ethiopian Jewish women without their consent and see black Jewish people as not “real Jewish people” and lesser than
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Post by Barbie on May 26, 2021 2:19:35 GMT
Looks like the israel lobby got to him and Marvel. What a spineless coward So he's a coward for denouncing the rise of violent antisemitic attacks against Jews all over the world? Jews who have nothing to do with the actions of the Israeli government? Yeah, bye girl! 🤢🤮But then again, you're the ignoramus who wants the destruction of the State of Israel so I'm not surprised. At least, I believe in a possibility of reconciliation between Israelis and Palestinians. Makes you wonder who's actually the real bigot here! 😑🖕 It’s still you baybee lol Yeah I want the destruction of a genocidal state. Why wouldn’t you? Reconciliation? No there’s no reconciliation between the oppressed and the oppressor. There’s only liberation and reparations. You’re a whole ass clown. You can post biased articles about Israel not being an apartheid state, but it’s factually incorrect. Anyone with even a cursory knowledge of apartheid whether in South Africa, Jim Crow America, and even America now for Native Americans, knows Israel’s treatment of non-Jewish people is part of an apartheid regime. Human Rights Watch and an Israeli human rights group (B’tselem) have studied it and concluded it. Israel violates international laws and meets definition of apartheid and so much more. That’s why it’s cowardly for Ruffalo to backtrack on accurately describing Israel. There is zero evidence that antisemitic attacks (I doubt half of them are truly hate crimes considering “Free Palestine” graffiti was deemed a hate crime in some places LOL) are caused by criticizing Israel. That’s fucking absurd. It’s Zionist HYSTERIA and I’m not falling for them constantly crying about wolf re: antisemitism You’re an uneducated simpleton who’s as delusional as Trump. It’s embarrassing. I’m not arguing with you about this further bc it’s clear you’re a lost cause and literally too stupid to educate For anyone else who is coming in good faith and interested in discussing, you can DM me. I’m always learning myself and positions are evolving. We can learn together
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Post by HELENA MARIA on May 26, 2021 2:23:24 GMT
Israel’s representative said that “this is a war between Israel and Hamas, not Israel and Palestine,” adding that Hamas is an internationally designated jihadi terrorist organization. Quoting from its charter, he said that that Hamas is committed to the genocide of the Jewish people. Speakers who fail to condemn Hamas and who cannot distinguish between its war crimes and Israel’s legitimate right to self-defence are emboldening terrorist organizations, he stressed. Hamas rockets are indiscriminate by design and have killed Jewish and Muslim Israelis, whereas Israel’s air strikes are precise and surgical, he said. A false moral equivalent is being drawn between Israel, which abides by international law, and a murderous terrorist organization with an ideology similar to Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant (ISIL/Da’esh). Israel wants a ceasefire, but only after reducing the power of Hamas’s terrorist regime. www.un.org/press/en/2021/ga1232.doc.htm
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Post by HELENA MARIA on May 26, 2021 2:30:13 GMT
Barbie There is zero evidence that antisemitic attacks (I doubt half of them are truly hate crimes considering “Free Palestine” graffiti was deemed a hate crime in some places LOL) are caused by criticizing IsraelAre you fucking kidding me? You're either ignorant or in complete denial. Actually, no. I don't think you're either of those. I think you 're a proud antisemite which is even worse. Bottom line : I don't give a rat's ass what you think. I stand by my opinions as "Unpopular" as they may be. At least, I don't wish for the destruction of an entire nation and its inhabitants so my conscience is clear.
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Post by HELENA MARIA on May 26, 2021 2:45:23 GMT
Considering that I'm part Black, I highly doubt that 😁 What does you being part black have to do with anything? That doesn’t mean you can’t be stupid and have internalized racism. You say that now but had you been alive during those periods on history, you would’ve 100% been a Status Quo Warrior ass bitch Also, it just makes you look bad that you have black heritage and you support a country that horrendously mistreats black Jewish people. Israel sterilized Ethiopian Jewish women without their consent and see black Jewish people as not “real Jewish people” and lesser than And your point is ? White America has enslaved Black people and still treats them like shit. Does that mean that every single white American is evil? Arabs have enslaved Black people too .Does that mean that every single Arab is evil? China treats Muslims like garbage. Does that mean that every single Chinese is evil? Nazi Germany has treated Jews like garbage. Does that mean every single German is evil? Shall we continue? You cannot blame an entire race or religion for the monstrous behavior of some disturbed and misguided individuals.
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Post by Barbie on May 26, 2021 4:03:09 GMT
Helena being like "I'm part black" Attachments:
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Post by HELENA MARIA on May 26, 2021 6:17:29 GMT
Helena being like "I'm part black" My father is black, you bimbo! Now go back hiding in your basement. 😁 I appreciate the effort, though.
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Post by Barbie on May 26, 2021 6:21:58 GMT
So nothing about Israel sterilizing Ethiopian Jewish women and Israel's anti-blackness huh? Of course
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Post by HELENA MARIA on May 26, 2021 6:26:07 GMT
Someone is clearly pretending not to have read the message I have posted about 3 hours ago... Huh. Of course. 🙄😂🤡
What a waste of my time. Honey, you're a lost cause. Bye.
ps : Let's also stop pretending:
- 4,000 missiles is "defence";
- Hamas' goal wasn't genocide of the Israelis Jews and non Jews , even using Palestinians as bait;
- Muslim Arabs haven't already ethnically cleansed all Jews from the MENA;
- 74%+ of Israelis are those Jewish refugees or their descendents.
- Palestinians require their Palestine to be Judenrein.
But I believe at this point, a 2 state solution is the only solution if we ever wanna see the conflict end.
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