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Post by bob-coppola on Nov 13, 2017 3:00:59 GMT
So, I follow some members of the HFPA on twitter, and they were tweeting about a voting of which category Get Out will run at the Globes. Apparently, 75% of them voted it should run as a drama. Nothing's set on stone yet, but it could happen and mess up with our predictions. Do you guys think Get Out could have a chance if it happens?
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Post by theycallmemrfish on Nov 13, 2017 3:22:28 GMT
Well it definitely wasn't a comedy.
But at the same time, neither are half the comedies they do nominate for best comedy.
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Post by jakob on Nov 13, 2017 3:42:12 GMT
If Get Out isn't running as a comedy then Victoria & Abdul and Battle of the Sexes should DEFINITELY not run as comedies either.
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Post by bob-coppola on Nov 13, 2017 4:03:03 GMT
I think movies like Get Out and The Martian suffer a lot from being hybrids of genres. To me, those movie are clearly comedies, to the point where I can't fathom the idea that people watch Damon in The Martian and don't think it's a comedy. Get Out and The Martian might not be movies that make you straight-up laugh, but the humor is there, the comedic elements are there. Their approach to sci-fi or horror is not a dramatic one.
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Post by mikediastavrone96 on Nov 13, 2017 4:47:39 GMT
I think that's pretty appropriate. The comedy in Get Out usually came as slight relief or as an undercurrent of satire to what was otherwise very serious ideas and dramatic execution.
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Post by morton on Nov 13, 2017 7:06:50 GMT
So, I follow some members of the HFPA on twitter, and they were tweeting about a voting of which category Get Out will run at the Globes. Apparently, 75% of them voted it should run as a drama. Nothing's set on stone yet, but it could happen and mess up with our predictions. Do you guys think Get Out could have a chance if it happens? Like you said nothing is set yet, but if it runs in drama, I don't see it scoring any nominations. I think there's just too much competition in drama, and I don't see the Globes going for Get Out over the other expected drama nominees like Call Me By Your Name, Dunkirk, The Post, The Shape of Water, and Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri with Darkest Hour as an alternative. Also I wasn't sure about it winning the Comedy/Musical Globe for Best Film, but I did see a lot of predictions for that. I thought it was a possibility, but I wasn't completely sold because I think Lady Bird has a lot going for it, and even The Disaster Artist or I, Tonya could surprise there. Or perhaps the buzz around The Greatest Showman on Earth will actually be wrong, and the Globes will go for that since they do love musicals. Anyhow this is all to say that a win at the Globes, even though I wasn't completely sold on it, would have really helped the film's Oscar chances if a group like the Globes would go for it like that, but if it's going Drama, I think it could be something that the guilds love, but the Oscars don't go for in the end.
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Post by wilcinema on Nov 13, 2017 8:03:55 GMT
If it goes in Drama, then it will be a huge problem.
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Post by ingmarhepburn on Nov 13, 2017 11:28:45 GMT
I think it's the right decision. Even if it decreases its chances of being nominated, drama is definitely a more appropriate placement than comedy.
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Post by FrancescoAbides on Nov 13, 2017 12:36:43 GMT
I mean, the film is a satire, so It would make sense if it was nominated for Comedy, even though it has its dramatic elements. But so does many comedy films. The term "Comedy" is very complex, especially when you are talking about films like Get Out or even Fargo. I think nominating the movie for Comedy or Drama are both right decisions, but Get Out is essentially a dark satire (which can be a dark comedy, in a sense). It's a Jordan Peele movie nonetheless, so it's always suspicious
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Post by Zeb31 on Nov 13, 2017 12:52:46 GMT
Congrats on your 0 nominations, Get Out! I think movies like Get Out and The Martian suffer a lot from being hybrids of genres. To me, those movie are clearly comedies, to the point where I can't fathom the idea that people watch Damon in The Martian and don't think it's a comedy. Get Out and The Martian might not be movies that make you straight-up laugh, but the humor is there, the comedic elements are there. Their approach to sci-fi or horror is not a dramatic one. Agreed. Get Out falls somewhere in the middle for me because it's far less satirical and outwardly comedic than I expected going in, but I still wouldn't call it an all-out drama, and would be fine with it in either category. (And I'm not even getting into The Martian, which is so evidently a comedy for me that I'm still not sure where all the commotion came from.) The whole comedy/drama divide is pointless anyway, because of how often that line is blurred. Last year's Elle and Toni Erdmann are perfect examples of laugh-out-loud funny films that also have plenty of gravity and depth to them, expertly treading the border between humor and drama. There were individual scenes in Toni Erdmann that made me want to laugh and cry at the same time; how do you categorize that when it's exactly that near-impossible balance that makes it stand out and work so effectively? By how likely you are to get nominated in each category, I guess.
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Post by quetee on Nov 13, 2017 21:56:17 GMT
Seriously, were they gonna get it anyway? The social commentary aspect of movie?
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Post by thomasjerome on Nov 14, 2017 18:03:24 GMT
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Post by stephen on Nov 14, 2017 18:12:57 GMT
Good. Not only does it stand a better shot of getting nominated, but it actually is a comedy. It may have some heavy overtones, but that doesn't change the fact that it's a satirical commentary.
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Post by PromNightCarrie on Nov 14, 2017 20:03:29 GMT
Well, it's definitely more drama than comedy, if forced to categorize. It may have had a few laughs in it, mostly brought to you by the lead character's friend, but that doesn't make it a comedy. Even the Godfather had a few laughs in it.
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Post by wilcinema on Nov 14, 2017 22:05:46 GMT
Well, it's definitely more drama than comedy, if forced to categorize. It may have had a few laughs in it, mostly brought to you by the lead character's friend, but that doesn't make it a comedy. Even the Godfather had a few laughs in it. It's not about having laughs, it's about what kind of film it is. It's a very quirky black comedy.
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Post by forksforest on Nov 14, 2017 22:12:43 GMT
I mean...it would be weirder if it went as a comedy tbh. It might be social satire but i wouldn't label it as comedy. So i wouldn't compare it to The Martian, which imo is a drama but had more of the workings for a comedy than something like Get Out. Any comedy in Get Out was too implicit for me to label as it a comedy, and any social satire defense can really just be used to augment the argument that it's a drama.
honestly, i think the biggest category issue for me is lumping comedy and musical together. it works for shit like Mamma Mia, which was light-hearted but...Les Mis?
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Post by HELENA MARIA on Nov 14, 2017 23:55:54 GMT
Such BS ! It's a [dark] comedy !
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Post by FrancescoAbides on Nov 15, 2017 0:03:24 GMT
Well, it's definitely more drama than comedy, if forced to categorize. It may have had a few laughs in it, mostly brought to you by the lead character's friend, but that doesn't make it a comedy. Even the Godfather had a few laughs in it. It's not about having laughs, it's about what kind of film it is. It's a very quirky black comedy. I agree, it's all about the aproach, which in this movie is particularly ironic and sarcastic, the humor is there. The film might not be hilarious but it's a dark comedy. Many comedies have drama, perhaps even more dramatic moments than comic ones, but it all comes down to how the story (in this case, a satire) is approached and perceived by the director.
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Nov 15, 2017 6:27:34 GMT
well given that Lil Rel Howery was the only thing about it that was funny, I don't see the issue with this.
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Post by sterlingarcher86 on Nov 15, 2017 23:59:27 GMT
well given that Lil Rel Howery was the only thing about it that was funny, I don't see the issue with this. I would disagree with that. I think the way he was treated by the older people at the party (and the father) and the parody of liberal racism was funny if not laugh out loud funny.
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Post by FrancescoAbides on Nov 16, 2017 0:22:25 GMT
Watching Allison William's character scouting black basketball players so that she can seduce them later, while eating dry cereal and milk separately and listening to The Time of My Life -- that's just fucking comedy gold
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Post by Johnny_Hellzapoppin on Nov 16, 2017 13:00:09 GMT
I'm fine with the categorisation either way. I would have said it was a funny drama, rather than a dramatic comedy.
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Post by mhynson27 on Nov 16, 2017 14:34:34 GMT
The title of this thread should probably be edited as to not confuse people.
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Post by Billy_Costigan on Nov 16, 2017 15:23:15 GMT
Good. Not only does it stand a better shot of getting nominated, but it actually is a comedy. It may have some heavy overtones, but that doesn't change the fact that it's a satirical commentary. Agreed. There are clear comedic beats too. My audience was rolling at certain parts. I don't understand the controversy about this. They should just rename the category to something other than "Comedy/Musical" - Musicals are a rarity.
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Post by Spaceman02 on Nov 16, 2017 19:29:52 GMT
Good. Not only does it stand a better shot of getting nominated, but it actually is a comedy. It may have some heavy overtones, but that doesn't change the fact that it's a satirical commentary. Agreed. There are clear comedic beats too. My audience was rolling at certain parts. I don't understand the controversy about this. They should just rename the category to something other than "Comedy/Musical" - Musicals are a rarity. Yeah, they should just do away with the 'musical' part, since a musical can either be a drama or a comedy. This isn't the Tonys.
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