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Post by pacinoyes on Sept 18, 2017 0:06:38 GMT
I have been diving into Husker Du since the passing of Grant Hart and they are a perfect example of this thing for me - mostly celebrated for the double LP concept record Zen Arcade, which is a great album indeed but which is my 3rd favorite of theirs (I prefer the 2 that followed it New Day Rising and Flip Your Wig that aren't burdened by that heavy concept).
Do you have some like this? Here's some other of mine:
The Kinks - Arthur is by far fave of theirs but Village Green Preservation is their main one you see pop up on best of all time lists.
Elvis Costello - Love a lot of his stuff but Get Happy! is my fave and that probably barely ranks in his top 5 as far as experts go.
White Stripes - I'll take White Blood Cells over the more acclaimed followup Elephant.
What are some of yours?
I assume bands like say Radiohead have this a lot where any number of records could be your fave........
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Post by PromNightCarrie on Sept 18, 2017 6:31:03 GMT
I often find myself taking that position.
For Pink Floyd, all you hear about is Dark Side of the Moon over and over and over. It wouldn't even be in my top 3 Pink Floyd albums. Animals is my favorite. Meddle and Wish You Were Here would also come before t.
For the Rolling Stones, over the years, Exile On Main St. has become the album people love to recognize as their masterpiece. But it doesn't do much for me. Beggars Banquet >.
Oh and my Radiohead take would be The Bends > OK Computer and Kid A
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Post by ibbi on Sept 18, 2017 9:25:40 GMT
I don't know if you can class Sticky Fingers as a lesser album (it certainly seems to be less well remembered than those what came either side of it) but it's for sure my favourite Stones work.
As for the Stripes, Get Behind Me Satan has always been my favourite.
Nebraska is my favourite Springsteen. It's my favourite by anybody ever.
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Post by countjohn on Sept 18, 2017 21:41:37 GMT
I do this a lot.
Radiohead- I like The Bends better than Ok Computer/Kid A
The Beatles- I like Revolver and White Album better than Sgt. Pepper (Although I guess the "Revolver was better" position has become trendy lately)
The Rolling Stones- I like Sticky Fingers better than Exile. I like Between the Buttons and It's Only Rock and Roll better than a lot of their classic albums
The Kinks- Also prefer Arthur to Village Green Preservation Society
Arcade Fire- Prefer The Suburbs and Reflektor to Funeral
Elvis Costello- Prefer Imperial Bedroom and Get Happy! to My Aim is True
Combat Rock is my favorite Clash album
Television- I like Adventure better than Marquee Moon
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Post by Johnny_Hellzapoppin on Sept 19, 2017 8:01:52 GMT
Radiohead- I like The Bends better than Ok Computer/Kid A Same here. I love OK Computer and Kid A is pretty nifty too, but The Bends is just flawless stuff.
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Post by idioticbunny on Sept 19, 2017 17:10:18 GMT
The Beatles - I feel like, outside of Abbey Road which is my favorite, I vastly prefer a lot of their older stuff (like Help! or Please Please Me) to their more acclaimed stuff later on. Though I understand their influence and why they're highly regarded. Just felt like the songs were less easy to listen to as a whole and each album only had a couple tracks to enjoy from it (like what the fuck is "Revolution 9" on The White Album??)
The Rolling Stones - Recently went on a kick of their stuff as I realized I'd never listened to a single album of theirs. Was actually largely disappointed in Exile on Main St. and vastly preferred Sticky Fingerz, Some Girls, and Beggars Banquet, probably in that order.
Bob Dylan - Always preferred his softer side than any of his electric stuff. Blood on the Tracks is one of my top 30 favorite albums, and don't think I even cared that much for his Highway 61 Revisited.
The Kinks - I thought for sure I'd love this band when I got around to them, but was pretty disappointed. My favorite, though, far and away was Lola versus Powerman and the Moneygoround, Part One, far ahead of the other two mentioned so far. Would even probably take Face to Face over them.
Lastly, I think all of Lou Reed's solo albums are far superior to anything from The Velvet Underground (maybe not in terms of individual songs, but as cohesive albums). Especially Berlin, which is one of my top 20 albums. Though I do still really love Velvet Underground, particularly their debut album and Loaded.
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Post by countjohn on Sept 19, 2017 23:06:54 GMT
The Kinks - I thought for sure I'd love this band when I got around to them, but was pretty disappointed. My favorite, though, far and away was Lola versus Powerman and the Moneygoround, Part One, far ahead of the other two mentioned so far. Would even probably take Face to Face over them. Lastly, I think all of Lou Reed's solo albums are far superior to anything from The Velvet Underground (maybe not in terms of individual songs, but as cohesive albums). Especially Berlin, which is one of my top 20 albums. Though I do still really love Velvet Underground, particularly their debut album and Loaded. A lot of people love Face to Face, but personally the only song that I can ever remember from it is Sunny Afternoon. The rest doesn't leave an impression on me at all. I love the classic trilogy of Something Else/Village Green Preservation Society/Arthur, but they're very twee, so it's not going to be everyone's thing. I like Lola too. I'd agree with you on Lou Reed vs Velvet Underground with the exception of Velvet Underground & Nico.
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Post by pacinoyes on Sept 19, 2017 23:36:27 GMT
@ countjohn - Do you consider Arthur twee because for me the whole appeal of that record is how much louder it is than the two prior - you know, Dave Davies guitar comes back on that album much more and each of the songs has a "hard driving" section to it as well. Maybe some individual tracks sound "twee" though - Drivin or something like that.
I also love the 3 prior (including F2F if only for Dandy, Fancy, Sunny Afternoon and Holiday in Waikiki) and Lola as well but Arthur to me seems distinct like a ballsier album both musically and lyrically too in its more overt defiance (and also in how Ray assumes different voices to sing through like it's like an acting performance vocally). I guess that a lot of the music that is on the Kink Kronikles in some ways eclipses the actual studio albums themselves from the 66-70 era but Arthur stands apart even from that compilation for me.
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Post by idioticbunny on Sept 19, 2017 23:53:59 GMT
The Kinks - I thought for sure I'd love this band when I got around to them, but was pretty disappointed. My favorite, though, far and away was Lola versus Powerman and the Moneygoround, Part One, far ahead of the other two mentioned so far. Would even probably take Face to Face over them. Lastly, I think all of Lou Reed's solo albums are far superior to anything from The Velvet Underground (maybe not in terms of individual songs, but as cohesive albums). Especially Berlin, which is one of my top 20 albums. Though I do still really love Velvet Underground, particularly their debut album and Loaded. A lot of people love Face to Face, but personally the only song that I can ever remember from it is Sunny Afternoon. The rest doesn't leave an impression on me at all. I love the classic trilogy of Something Else/Village Green Preservation Society/Arthur, but they're very twee, so it's not going to be everyone's thing. I like Lola too. I'd agree with you on Lou Reed vs Velvet Underground with the exception of Velvet Underground & Nico. Can certainly understand that. To be honest, it's been a while since I listened to them so I don't know if I can tell you any memorable tracks outside of that as well. I just remember as a whole thinking, since I listened to their albums chronologically, "hey, now we're getting somewhere!" Was pretty disappointed up until hitting Lola which blew the rest away. Yeah, maybe it's because "Pale Blue Eyes" is my favorite song and "Heroin" was another favorite for a while, that I just assumed all their music would be like it, but I was supremely disappointed when I first got around to Velvet Underground & Nico. Had some fantastic songs mixed with some far lesser songs, but I suppose for the time, it was damn remarkable. My tastes change and mature just about every three months or so, so there's a chance I might like it more if I revisited it now.
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Post by countjohn on Sept 19, 2017 23:57:16 GMT
@ countjohn - Do you consider Arthur twee because for me the whole appeal of that record is how much louder it is than the two prior - you know, Dave Davies guitar comes back on that album much more and each of the songs has a "hard driving" section to it as well. Maybe some individual tracks sound "twee" though - Drivin or something like that. I also love the 3 prior (including F2F if only for Dandy, Fancy, Sunny Afternoon and Holiday in Waikiki) and Lola as well but Arthur to me seems distinct like a ballsier album both musically and lyrically too in its more overt defiance (and also in how Ray assumes different voices to sing through like it's like an acting performance vocally). I guess that a lot of the music that is on the Kink Kronikles in some ways eclipses the actual studio albums themselves from the 66-70 era but Arthur stands apart even from that compilation for me. I would still say it's generally twee even if it is more rock oriented than the prior two. I'm not using it as a criticism, I love stuff like that, but some people might find late 60's Kinks a bit facile for that reason. Stuff like Yes Sir, No Sir, Drivin', Shangri-La, Mr Churchill Says, She's Bought a Hat Like Princess Marina, and nothing to say I would consider twee. "Campy" might be a better word to describe the feel of those later albums, although these days people use that word in a universally negative context. There's a smirking, mock-seriousness to them. Personally, Arthur is my favorite because it's the most musically and lyrically cohesive, and Shangri-La is my favorite Kinks song and one of my favorite songs in general.
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Post by countjohn on Sept 20, 2017 0:04:03 GMT
A lot of people love Face to Face, but personally the only song that I can ever remember from it is Sunny Afternoon. The rest doesn't leave an impression on me at all. I love the classic trilogy of Something Else/Village Green Preservation Society/Arthur, but they're very twee, so it's not going to be everyone's thing. I like Lola too. I'd agree with you on Lou Reed vs Velvet Underground with the exception of Velvet Underground & Nico. Can certainly understand that. To be honest, it's been a while since I listened to them so I don't know if I can tell you any memorable tracks outside of that as well. I just remember as a whole thinking, since I listened to their albums chronologically, "hey, now we're getting somewhere!" Was pretty disappointed up until hitting Lola which blew the rest away. Yeah, maybe it's because "Pale Blue Eyes" is my favorite song and "Heroin" was another favorite for a while, that I just assumed all their music would be like it, but I was supremely disappointed when I first got around to Velvet Underground & Nico. Had some fantastic songs mixed with some far lesser songs, but I suppose for the time, it was damn remarkable. My tastes change and mature just about every three months or so, so there's a chance I might like it more if I revisited it now. I can see how someone could think that if you prefer hard driving rock to campy/ironic pop songs. The Kinks appeal to a very specific sensibility which is why those albums weren't very commercially successful at the time. I prefer the Velvets chaotic, proto-noise rock stuff to the mellow, proto-dream pop stuff, so that's why I prefer Velvet Underground & Nico and White Light/White Heat to self-titled 69 and Loaded. VU fans seem to be split into those two camps. It's a preference thing again.
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Post by idioticbunny on Sept 20, 2017 0:15:52 GMT
Can certainly understand that. To be honest, it's been a while since I listened to them so I don't know if I can tell you any memorable tracks outside of that as well. I just remember as a whole thinking, since I listened to their albums chronologically, "hey, now we're getting somewhere!" Was pretty disappointed up until hitting Lola which blew the rest away. Yeah, maybe it's because "Pale Blue Eyes" is my favorite song and "Heroin" was another favorite for a while, that I just assumed all their music would be like it, but I was supremely disappointed when I first got around to Velvet Underground & Nico. Had some fantastic songs mixed with some far lesser songs, but I suppose for the time, it was damn remarkable. My tastes change and mature just about every three months or so, so there's a chance I might like it more if I revisited it now. I can see how someone could think that if you prefer hard driving rock to campy/ironic pop songs. The Kinks appeal to a very specific sensibility which is why those albums weren't very commercially successful at the time. I prefer the Velvets chaotic, proto-noise rock stuff to the mellow, proto-dream pop stuff, so that's why I prefer Velvet Underground & Nico and White Light/White Heat to self-titled 69 and Loaded. VU fans seem to be split into those two camps. It's a preference thing again. It's funny because I actually have grown out long ago from hard-driving rock as you say. I think if I listened to the Kinks in high school, I would've loved them. But now most of my tastes are a lot more of the latter you say. Which is why I thought for sure I'd love them. But while their influence is felt quite a lot these days, I just couldn't get into them (outside of one album as I mentioned). Exactly. Hence why I prefer Lou Reed's Berlin, and even Coney Island Baby, to Transformer. The latter has some great individual songs, like "Satellite of Love" and "Walk on the Wild Side," but stuff like "Andy's Chest" is too nonsensical for me. White Light/White Heat was actually my least favorite album of VU's, but "Here She Comes Now" is one of my favorite VU songs. So yeah, I'm clearly in that dream-pop camp. But I do still find their noise rock to be pretty cool if I'm in the mood. So they're just kind of a finicky band for me.
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Post by raybee on Sept 21, 2017 1:14:46 GMT
Gentle Giant - In A Glass House
Wire - A Bell Is A Cup Until It Is Struck
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Post by cheesecake on Sept 24, 2017 2:44:47 GMT
I don't know if you can class Sticky Fingers as a lesser album (it certainly seems to be less well remembered than those what came either side of it) but it's for sure my favourite Stones work. So good.
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Post by PromNightCarrie on Sept 24, 2017 21:44:41 GMT
Lastly, I think all of Lou Reed's solo albums are far superior to anything from The Velvet Underground (maybe not in terms of individual songs, but as cohesive albums). Especially Berlin, which is one of my top 20 albums. Though I do still really love Velvet Underground, particularly their debut album and Loaded. Well, Lou Reed's solo albums are exceptional, especially Berlin. For some reason, I find it hard to compare them to his work with the Velvet Underground though. But I kind of see what you mean when you say cohesiveness. Still, I think of Berlin and Transformer as two of the greatest albums I've ever heard. And I think The Velvet Underground & Nico and Loaded are two of the best albums I've ever heard. It would be tough for me to rank those four because I love them so much!
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