prolelol
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I love movies, especially drama and horror movies! And also, I'm a big fan of TV shows.
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Post by prolelol on Feb 4, 2017 14:16:31 GMT
Hey, I just finished season 3 finale yesterday and it was an epic finale. I know she deserved to die, but I'm still sad for her. I still miss her , she was such crazy smart b*tch and played a great character to hate easily. She's one of the best characters on the show, imo.
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Post by Johnny_Hellzapoppin on Feb 6, 2017 15:23:36 GMT
I'm only only about to start Season 3 of the show, but I'm torn on her to a degree. I liked her in Season 1 as she was funny and seemed quite smart and highly capable, but then she became a little bit of a TV cop cliché. The bending of the rules, the stupidity in the face of obvious tricks from those she is meant to bring down. I still like the character, but if she's around much longer I can see myself finding her redundant, barring the writers finding something more interesting to do with her.
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prolelol
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Post by prolelol on Apr 14, 2017 15:34:23 GMT
I'm only only about to start Season 3 of the show, but I'm torn on her to a degree. I liked her in Season 1 as she was funny and seemed quite smart and highly capable, but then she became a little bit of a TV cop cliché. The bending of the rules, the stupidity in the face of obvious tricks from those she is meant to bring down. I still like the character, but if she's around much longer I can see myself finding her redundant, barring the writers finding something more interesting to do with her. I was hoping she would stay until Season 5, but I still think she would have done more a few episodes. But anyway, did you finish the show as of now yet? I felt so sad the whole day, but also good because the finale is what it should have been. I'm still sad that Gemma and Juice died
, but brilliant show!
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Post by bobbystarks on Apr 14, 2017 15:42:58 GMT
I'll never forget my reaction when Opie finally killed her. I was running through the house.
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Post by Johnny_Hellzapoppin on Apr 18, 2017 13:06:26 GMT
I'm only only about to start Season 3 of the show, but I'm torn on her to a degree. I liked her in Season 1 as she was funny and seemed quite smart and highly capable, but then she became a little bit of a TV cop cliché. The bending of the rules, the stupidity in the face of obvious tricks from those she is meant to bring down. I still like the character, but if she's around much longer I can see myself finding her redundant, barring the writers finding something more interesting to do with her. I was hoping she would stay until Season 5, but I still think she would have done more a few episodes. But anyway, did you finish the show as of now yet? I felt so sad the whole day, but also good because the finale is what it should have been. I'm still sad that Gemma and Juice died
, but brilliant show! I still haven't started Season 3. I'm not even sure why, as I was really liking the show. I need to get back on it before I have no recollection of Seasons 1 & 2.
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Post by Johnny_Hellzapoppin on Sept 8, 2017 15:29:49 GMT
I don't see a thread specifically about the show, so I thought I'd start one. What does everyone think of it?
I loved it, I thought it was one of the greats of this TV golden age that's been going for the last 20 years or so, and I find it strange that it doesn't seem to generally rate with the likes if The Wire, Breaking Bad, The Sopranos, Mad Men and all those other shows typically mentioned when people talk about the 'greats' of modern television. Sure it wasn't perfect, but no TV show is, at least no show that I've ever seen. It seemed for the most part to be ignored by awards bodies like SAG / Emmy and Globes too. At least Katey Sagal picked up a Globe for her performance, which is up their with the best I've seen on TV; she was absolutely brilliant. In general it was wonderfully acted and even though the storytelling and character development wasn't necessarily always on point, it usually took you to an enjoyable, if not necessarily earned place. I also think it has some of the best character dialogue I've seen in a drama. It gets props from me too for having such a great finale. It was kinda perfect, one of the best of seen. A lot of my favourite shows failed in this regard.
If I was to throw one big criticism at it, it would be the overuse of montages and the sometimes appalling musical choices that accompanied them. When they got it right in that area it was cool, but when they got it wrong, they really got it wrong. Also, I have to give a special mention Titus Welliver, for giving the worst accent work I have ever had this misfortune to suffer through. It was so bad, that I just started to think of him as the shows comic relief as it went on. I mean most of the accents from those playing Northern Irish were weak to bad, but damn, that guy was just something else.
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Post by stephen on Sept 8, 2017 15:41:15 GMT
The first two seasons were very strong, then the third season sucked, then Seasons 4 and especially 5 were great, and then the show just crapped out on itself. I hated how the show basically did the opposite of Game of Thrones: characters that should have died were kept way past their reasonable sell-by date (lookin' at you, Tig) and characters were making stupid choices for the sake of drama, which I hated. It really felt like there was no direction to it.
Great cast for the most part, though, and Katey Sagal deserved an Emmy for Season 2.
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Post by theycallmemrfish on Sept 8, 2017 17:10:38 GMT
Season 2 is some all-time worthy stuff...
The biggest problem with the earlier seasons is Jax and of course once the show started its decline, Hunnam decided that now would be the best time to step up his game. Probably right around the whole cartel/CIA thing is when it started to nosedive.
Probably my favorite aspect of the series was the ability for them to focus on the supporting players more and more and when they did, the actors nailed it-- Hurst, Flanagan, Boone, and the guy who played Juice (obviously this is along with Perlman and Sagal).
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Post by jakesully on Sept 10, 2017 16:28:37 GMT
Overall I did enjoy it. It did sorta fall off though. I'd rate it a solid 7/10
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Post by Johnny_Hellzapoppin on Sept 13, 2017 13:38:39 GMT
Kinda surprised at the overall up and down attitude to it. Perhaps it makes more sense to me now why it doesn't seem that well regarded in relation to modern TV greats.
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Post by Pittsnogle_Goggins on Sept 14, 2017 2:24:37 GMT
One of my all-time favorite shows. I can forgive most of it's flaws.
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Post by Johnny_Hellzapoppin on Sept 14, 2017 7:34:55 GMT
One of my all-time favorite shows. I can forgive most of it's flaws. Same here, and it did have plenty of them. The whole thing was such a blast that it was mostly worth the weaker, messier and inconsistent moments.
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Post by cheesecake on Sept 15, 2017 3:31:22 GMT
Season 2 is some all-time worthy stuff... The biggest problem with the earlier seasons is Jax and of course once the show started its decline, Hunnam decided that now would be the best time to step up his game. Probably right around the whole cartel/CIA thing is when it started to nosedive. Probably my favorite aspect of the series was the ability for them to focus on the supporting players more and more and when they did, the actors nailed it-- Hurst, Flanagan, Boone, and the guy who played Juice (obviously this is along with Perlman and Sagal). Spot on -- the supporting cast was crazy strong and I always found their subplots much more interesting. I loved the first two seasons but from there the quality was all over the place and it eventually went out with a whimper.
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Post by AKenjiB on Sept 19, 2017 2:52:52 GMT
Sons of anarchy is a really notable example of a show that started out great and really went downhill. it's actually sad that a show with so many fantastic moments could also have so many awful moments. It used to be one of my favorite shows and a great successor to The shield. I loved Henry Rollins and Adam Arkin as the white supremacists. Really fantastic villains. I even liked the Ireland plotline more than most. The mixture of colorful characters and disturbing violence helped keep the show consistently engaging. Most of the performances were quite good as well. I loved nearly every scene with Maggie Siff and Katey Sagal. Their complex relationship/rivalry might have been my favorite part of the show. And of course I enjoyed seeing various actors from The Shield pop up. SOA unfortunately started to lose its way around the 4th season finale. I won't reveal details to those who haven't seen it but there were just too many plot conveniences. Then it stopped being a crime drama and became a full-fledged action show. The characters were just massacring dozens without consequence. For example, Jax Teller , a character who was in all 7 seasons killed just nine people in the first 4 seasons and then killed THIRTY-TWO people in the final 3 seasons. It just felt like a different show. Plus, while I never had an issue with the show's extreme violence, it felt more and more like pure shock value void of substance as it continued. The episodes also became longer which wouldn't be a bad thing if I felt the extra time was being used for anything important. Instead we got stupid shit like one of the most unintentionally cringeworthy sex scenes ever in the final season with a couple Chibs and that female cop that literally nobody cared about. The last 3 episodes of the series do pick up the steam a bit so it doesn't end completely awfully (though the symbolism is so blatant it's pretty distracting) but it's nowhere near the level of The Shield's final episodes. The show also seemed too afraid to make Jax a bad guy. Whenever it seemed like Jax may have gone too far, the people he's hurting always end up being far worse. Like in season 7, Jax goes after Henry Lin when he falsely believes he ordered Tara's death. This is troubling since Henry Lin has been a pretty affable ally throughout the series. The worst thing he did was cut off Chuck's fingers but Chuck had stolen from them so it wasn't some senseless, evil act. But suddenly in season 7, he orders a brothel of people who haven't done anything to him to be massacred. It felt like the show wanted to make Lin as unsympathetic as possible so we wouldn't get too bothered by Jax's actions. Not everything was bad in the last 3 seasons. Season 5 is a step down but has a solid finale and a few emotional scenes. I enjoyed the characters of Damon Pope, Nero Padilla and Venus Van Damme (played brilliantly by Walton Goggins in what ended up being a surprisingly humanizing portrayal) and some individual episodes were pretty entertaining (like the one about Venus' family). Still it's a case of a fantastic show getting worse and worse. It's worth watching. I recommend it to people. But I always mention how I felt the show lost what initially made it great.
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Post by Billy_Costigan on Sept 19, 2017 15:47:30 GMT
I sort of put this in the same category as Dexter. It started off so strong and really went downhill.
Season 2 is an all-timer. The last few seasons turned into an action show - instead of the smart, exciting crime show it started as. They kept characters around far past their due date and really mishandled some of their exits. The finale is just bad (with some of the worst CGI you'll ever see) and contradicts many of the events that happened before. Disappointing finish. When something ends on a poor note, the bad taste is harder to forget.
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