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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Jul 24, 2022 2:46:25 GMT
so I still have several high-profile ones to see... OG Pet Semetary, Dolores Claiborne, Firestarter, Needful Things, The Mangler (yes even that one I plan to see), but generally I'm still bearish on King adaptations. I always thought his sardonic dialogue translates pretty awkwardly to film and Gerald's Game is the best example of that. But as someone who enjoys his stories, I'm always hopeful. Very intrigued by the new Salem's Lot.
my favorites are Carrie and The Shining by far but those feel more the products of their directors than King's source material.
By the way, Creepshow (written by King) is amazing. I'd rank it over most of the adaptations.
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Jul 24, 2022 2:59:11 GMT
Are there any novels/short stories of his that haven't been adapted yet but you'd like to see as a film? I'm ready for horror anthologies to be a thing again. "Graveyard Shift", "I Am the Doorway", "The Moving Finger", "Autopsy Room Four", and "Under the Weather" from Bazaar of Bad Dreams would make amazing 25-30 minute shorts. And his short story "Obits" about a misanthropic writer for a trashy webzine who discovers he can kill people by writing their obituaries could make for a hell of a 90-minute film if they padded it out in the right spots.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2022 3:07:14 GMT
Carrie, of course!
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Post by The_Cake_of_Roth on Jul 24, 2022 3:38:59 GMT
Question for Kingheads: Are there any novels/short stories of his that haven't been adapted yet but you'd like to see as a film? The Regulators (probably the most unfilmable book he's ever written but if Tarantino wanted a challenge, he'd go for this) What would you say is "unfilmable" about it, and what about it do you think would appeal to Tarantino?
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Post by stephen on Jul 24, 2022 13:18:55 GMT
The Regulators (probably the most unfilmable book he's ever written but if Tarantino wanted a challenge, he'd go for this) What would you say is "unfilmable" about it, and what about it do you think would appeal to Tarantino? Have you read it? It's unfilmable because: a.) it deals with wanton gun violence in suburbia, which is absolutely a tough sell in this day and age b.) the villain of the piece has the capacity to warp reality to suit its whims, and in particular what it does is it reshapes an Ohio suburb to look like a child's drawing of the Ponderosa from Bonanza, populated with animals that are also supposed to look like a child's drawings come to life c.) the villain of the piece inhabits an autistic child, and it possesses him to do cruel and horrifying things, which would be really tough to showcase in a film As to why Tarantino would be a good choice, the novel actually started out as a screenplay King was writing for Sam Peckinpah, but Peckinpah died before they shot it, so King shelved it and repurposed it decades later for a novel. I think it's the only novel King has written that I think Tarantino has the sensibilities to handle, and it would present a fantastic challenge for Tarantino to remix to his own wavelengths, while dealing with the aforementioned pitfalls.
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Post by The_Cake_of_Roth on Jul 24, 2022 19:48:53 GMT
What would you say is "unfilmable" about it, and what about it do you think would appeal to Tarantino? Have you read it? It's unfilmable because: a.) it deals with wanton gun violence in suburbia, which is absolutely a tough sell in this day and age b.) the villain of the piece has the capacity to warp reality to suit its whims, and in particular what it does is it reshapes an Ohio suburb to look like a child's drawing of the Ponderosa from Bonanza, populated with animals that are also supposed to look like a child's drawings come to life c.) the villain of the piece inhabits an autistic child, and it possesses him to do cruel and horrifying things, which would be really tough to showcase in a film As to why Tarantino would be a good choice, the novel actually started out as a screenplay King was writing for Sam Peckinpah, but Peckinpah died before they shot it, so King shelved it and repurposed it decades later for a novel. I think it's the only novel King has written that I think Tarantino has the sensibilities to handle, and it would present a fantastic challenge for Tarantino to remix to his own wavelengths, while dealing with the aforementioned pitfalls. I have not read it, I was just curious. Are there any other directors you could see doing a successful adaptation of it?
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Post by countjohn on Jul 24, 2022 19:50:42 GMT
1. The Green Mile 2. The Shawshank Redemption 3. Stand By Me 4. Misery 5. The Shining
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Post by stephen on Jul 24, 2022 20:29:34 GMT
Have you read it? It's unfilmable because: a.) it deals with wanton gun violence in suburbia, which is absolutely a tough sell in this day and age b.) the villain of the piece has the capacity to warp reality to suit its whims, and in particular what it does is it reshapes an Ohio suburb to look like a child's drawing of the Ponderosa from Bonanza, populated with animals that are also supposed to look like a child's drawings come to life c.) the villain of the piece inhabits an autistic child, and it possesses him to do cruel and horrifying things, which would be really tough to showcase in a film As to why Tarantino would be a good choice, the novel actually started out as a screenplay King was writing for Sam Peckinpah, but Peckinpah died before they shot it, so King shelved it and repurposed it decades later for a novel. I think it's the only novel King has written that I think Tarantino has the sensibilities to handle, and it would present a fantastic challenge for Tarantino to remix to his own wavelengths, while dealing with the aforementioned pitfalls. I have not read it, I was just curious. Are there any other directors you could see doing a successful adaptation of it? I would be intrigued in seeing what Refn could do with it, especially with his penchant for stylization and color tones. Hell, in terms of the sort of Twilight Zone-esque commentary on suburbia and how the slightest stressor can send people off the deep end, Jordan Peele might also have fun with it.
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Post by sterlingarcher86 on Jul 24, 2022 22:35:50 GMT
Are there any novels/short stories of his that haven't been adapted yet but you'd like to see as a film? I'm ready for horror anthologies to be a thing again. "Graveyard Shift", "I Am the Doorway", "The Moving Finger", "Autopsy Room Four", and "Under the Weather" from Bazaar of Bad Dreams would make amazing 25-30 minute shorts. And his short story "Obits" about a misanthropic writer for a trashy webzine who discovers he can kill people by writing their obituaries could make for a hell of a 90-minute film if they padded it out in the right spots. My belief is that his novels are pretty much tapped out. The Long Walk needs to be done though. Billy Summers should be pretty good. I’m with you and I think several of his short stories (also short stories of his son’s) will make for good movies or anthology episodes. I don’t mind when they take a short story and just expand the concept to a film. Don’t need a word by word adaptation. I hear they are doing The Jaunt, The Boogyman and Mr Harrigan’s Phone. Crouch End, I Am The Doorway, Popsey, Suffer the Little Children (though I doubt they would ever make that) etc would be fun. I wish they would do shorter miniseries for some of his novels that are a little too long for film so they don’t need so much filler. The Outsider and 11/22/63 would have been great if they were 4-6 episodes. I think that would work for Billy Summers.
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Post by sterlingarcher86 on Jul 24, 2022 22:37:08 GMT
What would you say is "unfilmable" about it, and what about it do you think would appeal to Tarantino? Have you read it? It's unfilmable because: a.) it deals with wanton gun violence in suburbia, which is absolutely a tough sell in this day and age b.) the villain of the piece has the capacity to warp reality to suit its whims, and in particular what it does is it reshapes an Ohio suburb to look like a child's drawing of the Ponderosa from Bonanza, populated with animals that are also supposed to look like a child's drawings come to life c.) the villain of the piece inhabits an autistic child, and it possesses him to do cruel and horrifying things, which would be really tough to showcase in a film As to why Tarantino would be a good choice, the novel actually started out as a screenplay King was writing for Sam Peckinpah, but Peckinpah died before they shot it, so King shelved it and repurposed it decades later for a novel. I think it's the only novel King has written that I think Tarantino has the sensibilities to handle, and it would present a fantastic challenge for Tarantino to remix to his own wavelengths, while dealing with the aforementioned pitfalls. The most unfilmable book is totally Rage but there is only one reason really 😝
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Post by stephen on Jul 24, 2022 23:04:24 GMT
Have you read it? It's unfilmable because: a.) it deals with wanton gun violence in suburbia, which is absolutely a tough sell in this day and age b.) the villain of the piece has the capacity to warp reality to suit its whims, and in particular what it does is it reshapes an Ohio suburb to look like a child's drawing of the Ponderosa from Bonanza, populated with animals that are also supposed to look like a child's drawings come to life c.) the villain of the piece inhabits an autistic child, and it possesses him to do cruel and horrifying things, which would be really tough to showcase in a film As to why Tarantino would be a good choice, the novel actually started out as a screenplay King was writing for Sam Peckinpah, but Peckinpah died before they shot it, so King shelved it and repurposed it decades later for a novel. I think it's the only novel King has written that I think Tarantino has the sensibilities to handle, and it would present a fantastic challenge for Tarantino to remix to his own wavelengths, while dealing with the aforementioned pitfalls. The most unfilmable book is totally Rage but there is only one reason really 😝 I mean, The Regulators takes what Rage does and amplifies it by a thousand, adding bizarre supernatural elements to it.
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Post by speeders on Jul 24, 2022 23:05:06 GMT
Question for Kingheads: Are there any novels/short stories of his that haven't been adapted yet but you'd like to see as a film? The Long Walk and Joyland. I am so mad there still hasn't been a good Pet Sematary adaptation.
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Post by stephen on Jul 24, 2022 23:10:02 GMT
Question for Kingheads: Are there any novels/short stories of his that haven't been adapted yet but you'd like to see as a film? The Long Walk and Joyland. I am so mad there still hasn't been a good Pet Sematary adaptation. I think if you take Jason Clarke and Amy Seimetz and graft them onto the '89 film, it'd be damn near perfect.
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Post by sterlingarcher86 on Jul 24, 2022 23:11:18 GMT
The most unfilmable book is totally Rage but there is only one reason really 😝 I mean, The Regulators takes what Rage does and amplifies it by a thousand, adding bizarre supernatural elements to it. I would say the supernatural element makes it a little easier to swallow honestly. I mean the fact that you guys are even discussing directors who would pull it off is saying something. Nobody would even think about it with Rage.
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Post by stephen on Jul 24, 2022 23:16:44 GMT
I mean, The Regulators takes what Rage does and amplifies it by a thousand, adding bizarre supernatural elements to it. I would say the supernatural element makes it a little easier to swallow honestly. Eh, I don't think Rage treads any territory that Gus van Sant and Lynne Ramsay haven't thoroughly explored already. Obviously, no one would want the film to be made nowadays, but if we're talking about the actual act of adaptation, Rage is very easy to put on the screen. The Regulators is more "unfilmable" in the act of actually portraying the imagery without it looking ridiculous. And it has the added issue of dealing with mass shootings, and the murders in it are far more gruesome and harrowing than anything in Rage. Hell, only two people die in Rage and it's over in a second, and the deaths themselves are secondary to the aims of what the story is trying to do. A dog and a thirteen-year-old boy are shotgunned in the first chapter of The Regulators and the violence is far more of a focal point in that story. But we're splitting hairs here. No one is talking about a Rage adaptation because, well, no one wants it. Doesn't mean it isn't unadaptable in a technical sense; it's just practically a radioactive property no one wants to see done.
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Post by sterlingarcher86 on Jul 24, 2022 23:23:05 GMT
I would say the supernatural element makes it a little easier to swallow honestly. Eh, I don't think Rage treads any territory that Gus van Sant and Lynne Ramsay haven't thoroughly explored already. Obviously, no one would want the film to be made nowadays, but if we're talking about the actual act of adaptation, Rage is very easy to put on the screen. The Regulators is more "unfilmable" in the act of actually portraying the imagery without it looking ridiculous. And it has the added issue of dealing with mass shootings, and the murders in it are far more gruesome and harrowing than anything in Rage. Hell, only two people die in Rage and it's over in a second, and the deaths themselves are secondary to the aims of what the story is trying to do. A dog and a thirteen-year-old boy are shotgunned in the first chapter of The Regulators and the violence is far more of a focal point in that story. But we're splitting hairs here. No one is talking about a Rage adaptation because, well, no one wants it. Doesn't mean it isn't unadaptable in a technical sense; it's just practically a radioactive property no one wants to see done. I don’t think it’s impossible that King would sell the rights for an adaptation but we all know that he would never sell the rights to Rage being that he has pulled the book from print. He hasn’t done that with Regulators. I don’t think Rage really compares to Elephant or Kevin since the shooter is actually the “hero” of the story.
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Post by stephen on Jul 24, 2022 23:27:08 GMT
Eh, I don't think Rage treads any territory that Gus van Sant and Lynne Ramsay haven't thoroughly explored already. Obviously, no one would want the film to be made nowadays, but if we're talking about the actual act of adaptation, Rage is very easy to put on the screen. The Regulators is more "unfilmable" in the act of actually portraying the imagery without it looking ridiculous. And it has the added issue of dealing with mass shootings, and the murders in it are far more gruesome and harrowing than anything in Rage. Hell, only two people die in Rage and it's over in a second, and the deaths themselves are secondary to the aims of what the story is trying to do. A dog and a thirteen-year-old boy are shotgunned in the first chapter of The Regulators and the violence is far more of a focal point in that story. But we're splitting hairs here. No one is talking about a Rage adaptation because, well, no one wants it. Doesn't mean it isn't unadaptable in a technical sense; it's just practically a radioactive property no one wants to see done. I don’t think it’s impossible that King would sell the rights for an adaptation but we all know that he would never sell the rights to Rage being that he has pulled the book from print. He hasn’t done that with Regulators. I don’t think Rage really compares to Elephant or Kevin since the shooter is actually the “hero” of the story. While this is true, I think if anyone did attempt to put The Regulators to the big screen, they'd be faced with all sorts of blowback. But fine, sure, it's harder to make an adaptation of Rage because the rights will never be granted. I still think if we're considering "unfilmability" of material, The Regulators still wins out.
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Post by sterlingarcher86 on Jul 24, 2022 23:44:36 GMT
I don’t think it’s impossible that King would sell the rights for an adaptation but we all know that he would never sell the rights to Rage being that he has pulled the book from print. He hasn’t done that with Regulators. I don’t think Rage really compares to Elephant or Kevin since the shooter is actually the “hero” of the story. While this is true, I think if anyone did attempt to put The Regulators to the big screen, they'd be faced with all sorts of blowback. But fine, sure, it's harder to make an adaptation of Rage because the rights will never be granted. I still think if we're considering "unfilmability" of material, The Regulators still wins out. This would perhaps be true IF the director was forced to make a loyal adaptation. I feel like a loose shitty adaptation could be done (though I hope not) but the core concept of Rage is unfilmable. I mean a loyal adaptation of It is impossible too because of THAT scene and many others.
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Post by Brother Fease on Jul 25, 2022 2:28:14 GMT
Off the top of my head would be The Shining, Carrie, Misery, Shawshank Redemption, The Dead Zone, Green Mile, 1408, and Pet Sematary. I did like the TV Show Lisey’s Story on Apple.
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Post by sterlingarcher86 on Jul 29, 2022 13:16:32 GMT
Forgot to mention Revival for adaptations I would like to see. I guess Mike Flanagan had the rights for a while.
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Post by stephen on Jul 29, 2022 13:20:55 GMT
Forgot to mention Revival for adaptations I would like to see. I guess Mike Flanagan had the rights for a while. Revival has the potential to be one of the most horrifying and existential horror films in recent memory. Flanagan is good, very good when it comes to King . . . but that's a tall task for anyone.
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Post by sterlingarcher86 on Jul 29, 2022 13:38:12 GMT
Forgot to mention Revival for adaptations I would like to see. I guess Mike Flanagan had the rights for a while. Revival has the potential to be one of the most horrifying and existential horror films in recent memory. Flanagan is good, very good when it comes to King . . . but that's a tall task for anyone. I guess Scott Wampler read the script and said it was great. Hopefully one day.
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Post by stephen on Jul 29, 2022 14:06:16 GMT
Revival has the potential to be one of the most horrifying and existential horror films in recent memory. Flanagan is good, very good when it comes to King . . . but that's a tall task for anyone. I guess Scott Wampler read the script and said it was great. Hopefully one day. Flanagan could've submitted a stack of blank pages and put "Revival" on the front and Scott Wampler would rave it as a masterclass. The guy's so hard in the tank for both Flanagan and the source novel (deservingly so) that I can't really take him as an objective viewer in that respect.
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Post by sterlingarcher86 on Jul 29, 2022 15:03:16 GMT
I guess Scott Wampler read the script and said it was great. Hopefully one day. Flanagan could've submitted a stack of blank pages and put "Revival" on the front and Scott Wampler would rave it as a masterclass. The guy's so hard in the tank for both Flanagan and the source novel (deservingly so) that I can't really take him as an objective viewer in that respect. I’m in the same boat as Wampler so I’m exactly the target audience and I’m sure I would love it to do that’s all that matters to me.
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Post by stephen on Jul 29, 2022 15:20:12 GMT
Flanagan could've submitted a stack of blank pages and put "Revival" on the front and Scott Wampler would rave it as a masterclass. The guy's so hard in the tank for both Flanagan and the source novel (deservingly so) that I can't really take him as an objective viewer in that respect. I’m in the same boat as Wampler so I’m exactly the target audience and I’m sure I would love it to do that’s all that matters to me. I mean, Flanagan took two of King's most difficult novels to adapt and did wonders with them, so I have faith that he could do it . . . but man, what makes Revival work so well is that sort of existential, nihilistic, oh-FUCK! level of horror that even he hasn't really tapped into (although he got really close with the Tremblay scene in Doctor Sleep). In fact, the director who I think got close to the tone that I would want Revival to have is early Fincher ( Alien 3/Se7en-era).
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