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Post by idioticbunny on Aug 7, 2017 23:49:43 GMT
Walken is mesmerizing, but it always deflates me when no one gives props to John Savage for the same film. Oh, I give props. He's my second favorite of the male supporting cast. The ensemble as a whole is one of my all-time favorites. |
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Post by stoogetins on Aug 7, 2017 23:50:36 GMT
#2
Javier Bardem as Anton Chigurh in No Country for Old Men (2007)
Change in rank since 2014: +2
Highest placement: #1 on 1 list (placed on 17 lists)
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Post by stephen on Aug 7, 2017 23:51:06 GMT
That's a bingo.
When it comes to Bardem, fantastic performance but I have him as a co-lead.
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Post by idioticbunny on Aug 7, 2017 23:53:05 GMT
Waltz and Bardem are good, but top 2 of all-time feels like a bit much especially considering the other fantastic performances that didn't even make the top 25. Where's George C. Scott? Claude Rains? Michael Gambon, Ben Johnson, Jack Nicholson? Bah, oh well. I like Waltz better than Fiennes at least.
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Post by idioticbunny on Aug 7, 2017 23:54:08 GMT
Also just realized that we'll have had two Nazis win in a row.
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Post by stoogetins on Aug 7, 2017 23:54:12 GMT
#1
Christoph Waltz as Colonel Hans Landa in Inglourious Basterds (2009)
Change in rank since 2014: +4
Highest placement: #1 on 2 lists (placed on 17 lists)
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Post by Martin Stett on Aug 7, 2017 23:54:18 GMT
Waltz is king, and all is right with the world. So okay, the rest of the top 10 is pretty meeeeeeh, but hey, Waltz!
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Post by Martin Stett on Aug 7, 2017 23:54:31 GMT
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Post by urbanpatrician on Aug 7, 2017 23:59:09 GMT
I feel bad for dismissing Waltz back when I first saw Inglourious Basterds. I rewatched it again a while back and while the whole cast is pretty superb, Brad Pitt a funny muthfucka, Waltz definitely feels like the epitome of a supporting role that blends comedy and character playing and a few other things together, the classic memorable villain. Tarantino complimented him with the best character he could've thought to have written - to suit his abilities. With so many memorable lines to chew, he just tears it up.
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Post by stoogetins on Aug 7, 2017 23:59:44 GMT
Top 25 Supporting Actor performances
1. Christoph Waltz as Colonel Hans Landa in Inglourious Basterds (2009)
2. Javier Bardem as Anton Chigurh in No Country for Old Men (2007)
3. Christopher Walken as Nick Chevatorevich in The Deer Hunter (1978)
4. Heath Ledger as The Joker in The Dark Knight (2008)
5. Dennis Hopper as Frank Booth in Blue Velvet (1986)
6. Ralph Fiennes as Amon Goeth in Schindler’s List (1993)
7. Martin Landau as Bela Lugosi in Ed Wood (1994)
8. Samuel L. Jackson as Jules Winnfield in Pulp Fiction (1994)
9. Robin Williams as Sean Maguire in Good Will Hunting (1997)
10. Leonardo DiCaprio as Arnie Grape in What’s Eating Gilbert Grape (1993)
11. John Goodman as Charlie Meadows in Barton Fink (1991)
12. Lee J. Cobb as Juror #3 in 12 Angry Men (1957)
13. George Sanders as Addison DeWitt in All About Eve (1950)
14. Robert De Niro as Vito Corleone in The Godfather Part II (1974)
15. Robert Shaw as Sam Quint in Jaws (1975)
16. John Cazale as Sal Naturale in Dog Day Afternoon (1975)
17. Edward Norton as Aaron Stampler in Primal Fear (1996)
18. Philip Seymour Hoffman as Lancaster Dodd in The Master (2012)
19. Robert Walker as Bruno Antony in Strangers on a Train (1951)
20. Joe Pesci as Tommy DeVito in Goodfellas (1990)
21. John Goodman as Walter Sobchak in The Big Lebowski (1998)
22. Kevin Spacey as John Doe in Seven (1995)
23. Kevin Kline as Otto West in A Fish Called Wanda (1988)
24. Tom Cruise as Frank T. J. Mackey in Magnolia (1999)
25. Chris Cooper as John Laroche in Adaptation. (2002)
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Post by stoogetins on Aug 8, 2017 0:00:21 GMT
#26 - 50
26. Claude Rains (Casablanca)
27. George C. Scott (Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb)
28. Karl Malden (A Streetcar Named Desire)
29. Brad Dourif (One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest)
30. J. K. Simmons (Whiplash)
31. Steve Buscemi (Ghost World)
32. Anthony Hopkins (The Silence of the Lambs)
33. Joel Grey (Cabaret)
34. Ted Levine (The Silence of the Lambs)
35. Donald O’Connor (Singin’ in the Rain)
36. Dustin Hoffman (Midnight Cowboy)
37. John Cazale (The Godfather Part II)
38. Sergi Lopez (Pan’s Labyrinth)
39. Ben Kingsley (Sexy Beast)
40. Willem Dafoe (Shadow of the Vampire)
41. Mahershala Ali (Moonlight)
42. Alan Arkin (Wait Until Dark)
43. Andy Serkis (The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers)
44. Joe Pesci (Raging Bull)
45. Haing S. Ngor (The Killing Fields)
46. Dylan Baker (Happiness)
47. Robin Williams (Aladdin)
48. Montgomery Clift (Judgment at Nuremberg)
49. Val Kilmer (Tombstone)
50. Orson Welles (The Third Man)
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Post by stephen on Aug 8, 2017 0:02:03 GMT
Ustinov not even in the Top 50. Shame on you all.
Also, Ngor this low? A dagger through my heart!
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Post by Joaquim on Aug 8, 2017 0:03:43 GMT
Bardem at #2 is a bit excessive I think, great performance though.
As for the ones that missed the cut, would've liked to see Simmons make it. Pesci is cool but he got in for his better performance so that's fine.
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Post by stoogetins on Aug 8, 2017 0:03:59 GMT
FUN FACTS / STATS
The 5 performances that just missed the cut:
26. Claude Rains (Casablanca) -15
27. George C. Scott (Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb) -19
28. Karl Malden (A Streetcar Named Desire) +3
29. Brad Dourif (One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest) +4
30. J. K. Simmons (Whiplash) NEW
Performances that placed in the Top 25 in 2014 but didn’t make it this time:
26. Claude Rains (Casablanca) -15
27. George C. Scott (Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb) -19
32. Anthony Hopkins (The Silence of the Lambs) -13
33. Joel Grey (Cabaret) -19
48. Montgomery Clift (Judgment at Nuremberg) -25
50. Orson Welles (The Third Man) -35
64. James Caan (The Godfather) -39
Performances that once placed in the Top 25 but didn’t even make it to the Top 100 this time:
Casey Affleck (The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford)
Ned Beatty (Network)
Thomas Haden Church (Sideways)
Robert Duvall (Apocalypse Now)
Timothy Hutton (Ordinary People) – NO VOTES
Jack Nicholson (Reds)
George Segal (Who’s Afraid of Virginia Woolf?)
Kevin Spacey (The Usual Suspects) – NO VOTES
Fun facts about the Supporting Actor list
- A total of 46 performances have placed on the five different editions of this list. 11 of them have remained on all five lists.
- This is the first time that Ralph Fiennes’ performance in Schindler’s List has not placed at #1.
- This is the first time that an Oscar-winning performance has topped the list.
- Christopher Walken’s performance in The Deer Hunter has placed at either #2 or #3 on every edition of the list.
- Four performances on this list have never placed in the Top 25 before: John Goodman in Barton Fink, John Cazale in Dog Day Afternoon, Robert Walker in Strangers on a Train, and Kevin Spacey in Seven.
- John Goodman is the second actor to have two different performances place on the same Supporting Actor list, after Joe Pesci in 2008 and 2009.
- Brad Pitt received votes for four different performances.
- Three ambiguously named characters appear on this list: Heath Ledger’s The Joker, Lee J. Cobb’s Juror #3, and Kevin Spacey’s John Doe.
- Three performances directed by The Coen Brothers appear on this list, as do two each directed by Paul Thomas Anderson, Sidney Lumet, Steven Spielberg, and Quentin Tarantino.
- 11 of the performances on the list won Oscars, and 6 more were nominated.
- The oldest performance in the Top 25 is #13 (George Sanders, All About Eve, 1950). The newest is #18 (Philip Seymour Hoffman, The Master, 2012). This makes for a 62 year gap.
- The biggest gap in points is 74, between #6 (Ralph Fiennes, Schindler’s List) and #7 (Martin Landau, Ed Wood).
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Post by idioticbunny on Aug 8, 2017 0:09:39 GMT
Thanks again for doing this.
I wonder what those four Brad Pitt performances were. I would assume Twelve Monkeys, Snatch, Inglourious Basterds, and... maybe someone thought he was supporting for Fight Club?
Also hoping the Affleck and Hutton not being here means they've gone Lead where they belong.
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Post by stoogetins on Aug 8, 2017 0:30:53 GMT
Thanks again for doing this. I wonder what those four Brad Pitt performances were. I would assume Twelve Monkeys, Snatch, Inglourious Basterds, and... maybe someone thought he was supporting for Fight Club? Also hoping the Affleck and Hutton not being here means they've gone Lead where they belong. Monkeys and Basterds, yes. The other two were The Tree of Life and Burn After Reading. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2017 0:50:19 GMT
Love Waltz, I really do, but I woulda def preferred a Goeth repeat.
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Post by DeepArcher on Aug 8, 2017 1:03:39 GMT
YES!!!!! to Cruise, Cazale, Shaw, Hoffman, Hopper, and Double Goodman. Waltz at #1 is undeserving, but it's still an outstanding performance.
Though I really wish my favorite ever in the category, Affleck in The Assassination of Jesse James..., had made it.
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Post by idioticbunny on Aug 8, 2017 1:15:49 GMT
Thanks again for doing this. I wonder what those four Brad Pitt performances were. I would assume Twelve Monkeys, Snatch, Inglourious Basterds, and... maybe someone thought he was supporting for Fight Club? Also hoping the Affleck and Hutton not being here means they've gone Lead where they belong. Monkeys and Basterds, yes. The other two were The Tree of Life and Burn After Reading. Oh wow, I totally forgot about those two. I would have been okay with him making the list for Burn After Reading. He's pretty great in all four, though. |
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Post by cherry68 on Aug 8, 2017 7:18:10 GMT
38. Sergi Lopez (Pan’s Labyrinth)
This is the only foreign language performance making the top 50 list.
Impressive.
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Post by Martin Stett on Aug 8, 2017 10:29:11 GMT
38. Sergi Lopez (Pan’s Labyrinth) This is the only foreign language performance making the top 50 list. Impressive. My foreign votes: 3. Sergio Lopez; Pan's Labyrinth12. Jeremie Renier; Lorna's Silence15. Janusz Gajos; Three Colors: White20. Jean-Louis Trintignant; Z25. Vijay Raaz; Monsoon WeddingReally surprised that the following from my ballot didn't make the top 50: 7. Alec Guinness; The Bridge on the River KwaiThe performances that I really stan for getting more attention: 2. Andy Serkis; Rise of the Planet of the Apes (arguably lead) 4. Screamin' Jay Hawkins; Mystery Train6. John Cazale; The Conversation11. Jonathan Pryce; Something Wicked This Way Comes13. Jack Lemmon; Short Cuts |
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Post by stephen on Aug 8, 2017 12:51:50 GMT
38. Sergi Lopez (Pan’s Labyrinth) This is the only foreign language performance making the top 50 list. Impressive. My foreign votes: 3. Sergio Lopez; Pan's Labyrinth12. Jeremie Renier; Lorna's Silence15. Janusz Gajos; Three Colors: White20. Jean-Louis Trintignant; Z25. Vijay Raaz; Monsoon WeddingReally surprised that the following from my ballot didn't make the top 50: 7. Alec Guinness; The Bridge on the River KwaiThe performances that I really stan for getting more attention: 2. Andy Serkis; Rise of the Planet of the Apes (arguably lead) 4. Screamin' Jay Hawkins; Mystery Train6. John Cazale; The Conversation11. Jonathan Pryce; Something Wicked This Way Comes13. Jack Lemmon; Short CutsYou're surprised Guinness missed the Top 50 in Supporting Actor? He's got a very strong chance of making it in lead (although I think he misses the Top 25). |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2017 15:07:02 GMT
for those bitchin' about Affleck missing, isn't he considered lead by all of you? or are you going by Oscars placement?
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Post by DeepArcher on Aug 8, 2017 15:09:45 GMT
for those bitchin' about Affleck missing, isn't he considered lead by all of you? or are you going by Oscars placement? Robert Ford is a supporting character in his own biopic. That's the point. Though I didn't even vote, so it's not my reeeally my place to judge. Would love it if he turned up in the Lead Top 25. |
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Post by idioticbunny on Aug 8, 2017 15:30:02 GMT
for those bitchin' about Affleck missing, isn't he considered lead by all of you? or are you going by Oscars placement? Robert Ford is a supporting character in his own biopic. That's the point. Though I didn't even vote, so it's not my reeeally my place to judge. Would love it if he turned up in the Lead Top 25. Yeah, I think a lot of people have switched sides since Oscar days and have put him Lead. I personally had gone with Oscar before and put him supporting, mainly because of how absent he was in the first third or so, but he was very prevalent in the rest and was the main focus in the final third so I consider he and Pitt co-leads. Regardless, expect him to place in the top 10 for Lead, I say. |
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