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Post by DeepArcher on Sept 21, 2017 0:31:44 GMT
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Post by theycallmemrfish on Sept 21, 2017 16:49:44 GMT
Three things...
1. the movie actually did a solid job of adapting the main story (and bettered the ending, imo). 2. if they are going full series, they had best include the old timers and their escapades. 3. no fucking Curse of the Black Freighter.
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Post by FrancescoAbides on Sept 21, 2017 18:27:41 GMT
Fuck yeah, I'm in -- I trust in Lindelof. Kinda nervous about the cast though, it's hard to beat Snyder's Watchmen's cast
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Post by FrancescoAbides on Sept 21, 2017 21:23:31 GMT
Fuck yeah, I'm in -- I trust in Lindelof. Kinda nervous about the cast though, it's hard to beat Snyder's Watchmen's cast who would you cast for this curious. Hard to tell tbh. For example, I've read somewhere that Jon Hamm was a possibility to play The Comedian, that would be an interesting start. But I really don't know, I'm ready to be surprised.
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Post by DeepArcher on Sept 22, 2017 2:14:49 GMT
Three things... 1. the movie actually did a solid job of adapting the main story (and bettered the ending, imo). 2. if they are going full series, they had best include the old timers and their escapades. 3. no fucking Curse of the Black Freighter. 1. Adapting the story loyally is one of the few things Snyder's film gets right. It nails most of the story beats, but lacks the sense of purpose and awareness that makes the novel so exceptional. And I much prefer the book's ending, though that's a whole other conversation, and one that I've already had several times. 2. Obviously. 3. That stuff better be included. I'll be upset if Lindelof leaves out the two Bernards.
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Post by DeepArcher on Sept 22, 2017 2:18:19 GMT
Fuck yeah, I'm in -- I trust in Lindelof. Kinda nervous about the cast though, it's hard to beat Snyder's Watchmen's cast Haley and Morgan were indeed perfect and gave excellent performances. Wilson nailed Nite Owl, and Crudup made for a solid Dr. Manhattan even if he lacked some of the finesse the character has in the novel. Akerman and Goode both looked their parts but failed to match that aspect of the casting with quality performances; Goode in particularly put on a nearly awful, "Look at me, I'm the villain" routine, but that also could have been more a result of poor direction than anything. I've no ideas as to who would be suitable for the new cast, but I'm really excited to see what kind of choices are made.
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Post by Ryan_MYeah on Sept 22, 2017 4:08:45 GMT
So, you have a chance to right the wrongs of a botched prior adaptation... and you get Damon Lindelof to headline it.
😖 Good start.
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Post by FrancescoAbides on Sept 22, 2017 18:34:05 GMT
Fuck yeah, I'm in -- I trust in Lindelof. Kinda nervous about the cast though, it's hard to beat Snyder's Watchmen's cast Haley and Morgan were indeed perfect and gave excellent performances. Wilson nailed Nite Owl, and Crudup made for a solid Dr. Manhattan even if he lacked some of the finesse the character has in the novel. Akerman and Goode both looked their parts but failed to match that aspect of the casting with quality performances; Goode in particularly put on a nearly awful, "Look at me, I'm the villain" routine, but that also could have been more a result of poor direction than anything. I've no ideas as to who would be suitable for the new cast, but I'm really excited to see what kind of choices are made. Well, Goode was kinda awful, can't deny that (but maybe I'm being a little biased, since I'm not a big fan of the actor) But yes, let's see what Lindelof has in mind -- For instance, will he bring someone from The Leftovers? who the fuck knows... We shall wait and see.
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Post by Martin Stett on May 24, 2018 3:39:42 GMT
Lindelof has been into the weed again. Ugh, this is gonna be so bad.
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2018 3:45:39 GMT
Yikes.
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Post by Joaquim on May 24, 2018 7:33:34 GMT
Wait, so it’s not actually adapting the graphic novel? It’s a continuation/set in the same universe/takes place after the graphic novel’s ending/without it actually being a sequel? Shit, I’m so confused. stay of the WEEEEEEEEEDUH, Lindelof.
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Post by theycallmemrfish on May 24, 2018 18:52:25 GMT
Okay. I have no idea what the fuck he's talking about. It's not a sequel, but it's taking place after the events of the novel... but not everything from the novel happened... and it's not a remake...
What?!
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Post by stephen on May 24, 2018 18:55:29 GMT
I don't think the graphic novel is an untouchable masterpiece. In fact, I think Snyder's adaptation actually improves the source material (yeah, I said it; the squid is stupid and always will be). But there are so many little details and nuggets of potential storylines scattered throughout Watchmen that make it ripe for this sort of adaptation. And after The Leftovers, Lindelof has garnered some goodwill with me, so I'm game to see what he brings to the table.
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Post by Martin Stett on May 24, 2018 19:28:47 GMT
I don't think the graphic novel is an untouchable masterpiece. In fact, I think Snyder's adaptation actually improves the source material (yeah, I said it; the squid is stupid and always will be). But there are so many little details and nuggets of potential storylines scattered throughout Watchmen that make it ripe for this sort of adaptation. And after The Leftovers, Lindelof has garnered some goodwill with me, so I'm game to see what he brings to the table. The squid alone means that the movie is better. There are a lot of little problems with Snyder's handling of the material (and one big problem in Matthew Goode), but he still made an excellent adaptation for the most part. I haven't seen The Leftovers, but Lindelof is not one of my favorite people, and seeing him attached to anything gives me pause. I do agree that maybe looking at the world around the Watchmen is an idea, but Lindelof strikes me as someone more interested in exploring the idea than the people. Which I felt was a problem with a lot of the extraneous material in the original novel (the older heroes, the damned black freighter). He just seems like someone who will exacerbate the weaknesses of the source, instead of shoring them up.
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Post by stephen on May 24, 2018 19:32:00 GMT
I don't think the graphic novel is an untouchable masterpiece. In fact, I think Snyder's adaptation actually improves the source material (yeah, I said it; the squid is stupid and always will be). But there are so many little details and nuggets of potential storylines scattered throughout Watchmen that make it ripe for this sort of adaptation. And after The Leftovers, Lindelof has garnered some goodwill with me, so I'm game to see what he brings to the table. The squid alone means that the movie is better. There are a lot of little problems with Snyder's handling of the material (and one big problem in Matthew Goode), but he still made an excellent adaptation for the most part. I haven't seen The Leftovers, but Lindelof is not one of my favorite people, and seeing him attached to anything gives me pause. I do agree that maybe looking at the world around the Watchmen is an idea, but Lindelof strikes me as someone more interested in exploring the idea than the people. Which I felt was a problem with a lot of the extraneous material in the original novel (the older heroes, the damned black freighter). He just seems like someone who will exacerbate the weaknesses of the source, instead of shoring them up. Oh yeah, the film version of Watchmen is not without its issues. Goode's casting makes it blatant that he's the villain (it's not that he's bad, but he's so obvious that it undercuts the reveal) and Malin Akerman is far too wooden. But Jeffrey Dean Morgan is my Supporting Actor runner-up, I also nominate Haley, and Gugino/Crudup/McHattie/Wilson are all excellent as well. Dude. You gotta watch The Leftovers. I went into it with skepticism because I had major issues with Lost and Prometheus, but after Episode 3, he'd won me over. It competes with Deadwood for best three-season run of television ever, and it might actually have the edge. At least watch the first three episodes, the third of which would have been an Oscar-worthy film if it had been feature-length.
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Post by dazed on May 25, 2018 15:37:30 GMT
I don't think the graphic novel is an untouchable masterpiece. In fact, I think Snyder's adaptation actually improves the source material (yeah, I said it; the squid is stupid and always will be). But there are so many little details and nuggets of potential storylines scattered throughout Watchmen that make it ripe for this sort of adaptation. And after The Leftovers, Lindelof has garnered some goodwill with me, so I'm game to see what he brings to the table. The squid alone means that the movie is better. There are a lot of little problems with Snyder's handling of the material (and one big problem in Matthew Goode), but he still made an excellent adaptation for the most part. I haven't seen The Leftovers, but Lindelof is not one of my favorite people, and seeing him attached to anything gives me pause. I do agree that maybe looking at the world around the Watchmen is an idea, but Lindelof strikes me as someone more interested in exploring the idea than the people. Which I felt was a problem with a lot of the extraneous material in the original novel (the older heroes, the damned black freighter). He just seems like someone who will exacerbate the weaknesses of the source, instead of shoring them up. The Leftovers is the best show of all time. This is coming from someone that isn’t the biggest Lindelof fan.
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on May 29, 2018 8:28:37 GMT
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Post by theycallmemrfish on May 29, 2018 18:09:37 GMT
Or even better...
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Post by stephen on Jun 27, 2018 17:04:47 GMT
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Post by theycallmemrfish on Jun 27, 2018 18:05:39 GMT
So it's not taking place in New York?
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Post by stephen on Jun 27, 2018 18:22:04 GMT
So it's not taking place in New York? I'm guessing it's more global.
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Post by theycallmemrfish on Jun 27, 2018 18:24:17 GMT
So it's not taking place in New York? I'm guessing it's more global. I'm not sure how I feel about this... I'll give it a shot, but I'm very weary. VERY weary.
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Post by stephen on Jun 27, 2018 18:27:18 GMT
I'm guessing it's more global. I'm not sure how I feel about this... I'll give it a shot, but I'm very weary. VERY weary. Then take a nap if you're so tired. (Sorry, pet peeve of mine; it's "wary," not "weary.") After The Leftovers and seeing how Lindelof remixed Perrotta's novel and improved it vastly, I'm game to see what he can do with Watchmen. The letter he wrote dictating his feelings on the source material and how he wanted to treat it with reverence but didn't want to simply rehash the story written there (calling it "gospel" and saying he wanted to give Watchmen a "New Testament") gave me a lot of hope that this might be good. And the growing cast intrigues me.
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Post by stephen on Sept 21, 2018 1:06:34 GMT
Reznor and Ross will be scoring this show. Righteous.
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Post by jakesully on Sept 21, 2018 16:48:38 GMT
^^^ best news I've heard all day! I consider the score to The Social Network one of the best scores of the decade . just brilliant . Can't wait to hear what they have cooked up for Watchmen . Really looking forward to this series
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