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Post by therealcomicman117 on Apr 8, 2017 21:59:23 GMT
comicman, take the L on this one. Well there's not much I need to take the loss on, since the investigations are still ongoing, and the Syria attacks were pretty clearly a result of Trump being an idiot, but point still stands I suppose.
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Post by ibad on Apr 8, 2017 23:37:08 GMT
ibad your beloved candidate and her entire wing of the party lost to a pea-brain reality-TV show host. Not because of misogyny, not because of fake news, not because of Russia, but because she was a dog shit candidate with a dog shit platform in a dog shit party. If Bernie, Gabbard, and their ilk can't get past the primaries, it will be because establishment Democrats are fucking clueless and out of touch. Do you enjoy siding with the neocons at every turn? Cc: pessimusreincarnated It's hilarious how many caveats you have to discount to act like she was a bad candidate when in the face of everything you mentioned, all of which were historically unprecedented, HRC still won the popular vote by a significant margin. And you didn't even mentioned the nonsense Comey story, which was the straw that broke the camel's back. She even outperformed a populist like Russ Feingold in Wisconsin, a guy who was Bernier than Bernie before Bernie, who was expected to win back his Senate seat that year. But I'm not here to re-litigate the primaries last year. It's not even about that. Tulsi Gabbard is the one who has been a GOP-mold neoconservative long before she ever supported Bernie. If brocialists want to keep on defending her and accuse anyone else of being on the side of "neoconservatives," it's evidence that they never really cared about anybody's principles or ideology to begin with, and it's hard to take ideas that aren't tied down to anything real very seriously.
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Post by ibad on Apr 9, 2017 1:29:01 GMT
However much you want to pivot back to Hillary, I hadn't even mentioned her to begin with. It's telling how shallow your side's ideas are if you keep having to try to scapegoat her as the cause of all the world's problems rather than trying to move forward productively. And no, lmao, I didn't browse through this thread to see the specific adjectives you use to define your ill-informed conception of politics but thanks for the info I guess. FYI - Progressive Punch grades congress by how progressive their votes are compared to the states they come from. Gabbard gets an F.
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Post by ibad on Apr 9, 2017 17:42:34 GMT
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Post by therealcomicman117 on Apr 11, 2017 23:28:49 GMT
Been a while since we've had some news in this thread. Oof!
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Post by therealcomicman117 on Apr 13, 2017 16:09:30 GMT
And this bit of the article is interesting.
"One source suggested the official investigation was making progress. “They now have specific concrete and corroborative evidence of collusion,” the source said. “This is between people in the Trump campaign and agents of [Russian] influence relating to the use of hacked material.”
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Post by therealcomicman117 on Apr 14, 2017 20:05:30 GMT
This sounds interesting. www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/apr/13/british-spies-first-to-spot-trump-team-links-russia"There are now multiple investigations going on in Washington into Trump campaign officials and Russia. They include the FBI-led counter-espionage investigation and probes by both the House and Senate intelligence committees. One source suggested the official investigation was making progress. “They now have specific concrete and corroborative evidence of collusion,” the source said. “This is between people in the Trump campaign and agents of [Russian] influence relating to the use of hacked material."
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Post by therealcomicman117 on Apr 14, 2017 20:12:21 GMT
Hey look more smoke.
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Post by therealcomicman117 on Apr 20, 2017 7:36:24 GMT
Nothing to see here. Nope!
Hopefully we're getting closer and closer to the truth.
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Post by therealcomicman117 on Apr 20, 2017 8:02:28 GMT
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Post by therealcomicman117 on Apr 24, 2017 21:37:11 GMT
www.yahoo.com/news/senate-russia-probe-flounders-amid-partisan-bickering-130323166.html"More than three months after the Senate Intelligence Committee launched its investigation into Russian meddling in the 2016 election — including allegations of collusion by associates of President Trump — the panel has made little progress and is increasingly stymied by partisan divisions that are jeopardizing the future of the inquiry, according to multiple sources involved in the probe. The committee has yet to issue a single subpoena for documents or interview any key witnesses who are central to the probe, the sources said. It also hasn’t requested potentially crucial evidence — such as the emails, memos and phone records of the Trump campaign — in part because the panel’s chairman, Sen. Richard Burr, R-N.C., has so far failed to respond to requests from the panel’s Democrats to sign letters doing so, the sources said. The Senate committee’s Democrats, who are privately complaining the probe is underfunded, understaffed and too timid in pushing to get to the bottom of one of the most explosive political stories in years." Sounds like Burr is pulling a competent version of Nunes bullshit. I'll gladly admit defeat if nothing comes of this investigation, but right now the FBI might be are last chance unless a miracle happens.
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Post by therealcomicman117 on Apr 26, 2017 3:15:00 GMT
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Post by atn on Apr 26, 2017 8:13:38 GMT
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Post by therealcomicman117 on Apr 26, 2017 16:36:46 GMT
You do realize that Trump may be doing this just because he's an idiot, or maybe in attempt to not make himself look like a puppet? This thread's not stopping anytime soon. Besides I already acknowledged that I'll admit defeat if nothing happens, but some recent Russian related developments have ensured that this thread will continue right now for the foreseeable. Besides if this thread bugs you that much, then I'm sure you can just ignore it.
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Post by atn on Apr 26, 2017 17:04:35 GMT
You do realize that Trump may be doing this just because he's an idiot, or maybe in attempt to not make himself look like a puppet? This thread's not stopping anytime soon. Besides I already acknowledged that I'll admit defeat if nothing happens, but some recent Russian related developments have ensured that this thread will continue right now for the foreseeable. Besides if this thread bugs you that much, then I'm sure you can just ignore it. "In fact, conspiracy theory does more: it asserts that any evidence against the theory is actually evidence for it, in that it shows the great cunning and power of the conspirators: No evidence? Ah! That proves they destroyed it. Evidence to the contrary? Aha! See how they have forged, bribed, brainwashed, planted false leads..." www.butte.edu/departments/cas/tipsheets/thinking/conspiracy.htmlI'm not going to ignore it, but I am considering moving it to misc issues because it's become repetative spam
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Post by cornnetto on Apr 26, 2017 17:56:06 GMT
It would not surprise me if Trump was not aware about most of what was going on with is team member and Russia, he didn't had to be.
This administration can surely be overreacting more strongly toward Russia and is allied because they incentive to do so, but that is a different subject and require no conspiracy, just politicians scoring point if they do something and them doing it.
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Post by therealcomicman117 on Apr 26, 2017 18:03:14 GMT
You do realize that Trump may be doing this just because he's an idiot, or maybe in attempt to not make himself look like a puppet? This thread's not stopping anytime soon. Besides I already acknowledged that I'll admit defeat if nothing happens, but some recent Russian related developments have ensured that this thread will continue right now for the foreseeable. Besides if this thread bugs you that much, then I'm sure you can just ignore it. "In fact, conspiracy theory does more: it asserts that any evidence against the theory is actually evidence for it, in that it shows the great cunning and power of the conspirators: No evidence? Ah! That proves they destroyed it. Evidence to the contrary? Aha! See how they have forged, bribed, brainwashed, planted false leads..." www.butte.edu/departments/cas/tipsheets/thinking/conspiracy.htmlI'm not going to ignore it, but I am considering moving it to misc issues because it's become repetative spam Okay, this thread may seem like paranoia, but I created it with legit intention, and interests, and I update it from time to time. I don't think there's anything super wrong with that, other then people disagree with the idea of the thread, which is completely fine by me.
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Post by therealcomicman117 on Apr 26, 2017 18:04:24 GMT
It would not surprise me if Trump was not aware about most of what was going on with is team member and Russia, he didn't had to be. This administration can surely be overreacting more strongly toward Russia and is allied because they incentive to do so, but that is a different subject. And I would be surprised if he didn't know. Trump has Russian connections. I mean according to most reports Russians have been seen coming in & out of Trump tower in the past several years.
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Post by mikediastavrone96 on Apr 26, 2017 18:35:32 GMT
It would not surprise me if Trump was not aware about most of what was going on with is team member and Russia, he didn't had to be. This administration can surely be overreacting more strongly toward Russia and is allied because they incentive to do so, but that is a different subject. Yeah, it would not surprise me if Trump was naively unaware of connections between his team and Russia, or that his own Russian contacts and past expressions of admiration towards Putin (since Putin and Obama were frequently posed as opponents, and there's no way Trump would take Obama's side) would pose major ethical issues. And now he's mad at being perceived as Putin's puppet so here's trying to overcompensate in the other direction. This is all speculation, obviously, but it just wouldn't surprise me to hear more about Trump's political incompetency.
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Post by therealcomicman117 on May 6, 2017 3:43:45 GMT
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Post by quetee on May 8, 2017 19:49:27 GMT
It would not surprise me if Trump was not aware about most of what was going on with is team member and Russia, he didn't had to be. This administration can surely be overreacting more strongly toward Russia and is allied because they incentive to do so, but that is a different subject. Yeah, it would not surprise me if Trump was naively unaware of connections between his team and Russia, or that his own Russian contacts and past expressions of admiration towards Putin (since Putin and Obama were frequently posed as opponents, and there's no way Trump would take Obama's side) would pose major ethical issues. And now he's mad at being perceived as Putin's puppet so here's trying to overcompensate in the other direction. This is all speculation, obviously, but it just wouldn't surprise me to hear more about Trump's political incompetency. There's a difference between not knowing and not wanting to know. I think Trump knew everything due to the fact that he is way too controlling not to know. Eric said that Russia funded the golf courses and I'm sure that it will come out soon that the only way Trump was able to maintain his lifestyle was due to continued funding by the Russians.
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Post by therealcomicman117 on May 12, 2017 17:29:12 GMT
Trump's lawyers release letter relating to Russia (wait he's not guilty). Oh wait... fortune.com/2017/01/11/donald-trumps-morgan-lewis-russia-award/ Morgan, Lewis & Bockius, the law firm advising President-elect Donald Trump on handling his business conflicts, won the Russia Law Firm of the Year award in 2016. The law firm announced the award in a press release last May, noting it was recognized in the Chambers & Partners' 2016 Chambers Europe guide. According to Morgan Lewis' website, the firm's Moscow office staffs more than 40 lawyers who are well known in the Russian market and "have deep familiarity with the local legislation, practices and key players."
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Post by mikediastavrone96 on May 12, 2017 17:54:59 GMT
Trump's lawyers release letter relating to Russia (wait he's not guilty). "With a few exceptions" "I have committed no crime, with a few exceptions."
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Post by therealcomicman117 on May 12, 2017 18:52:53 GMT
Trump's lawyers release letter relating to Russia (wait he's not guilty). "With a few exceptions" "I have committed no crime, with a few exceptions." It's backward logic for Trump & his team. If he didn't have anything to hide he'd have already released his tax returns by now.
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Post by therealcomicman117 on May 13, 2017 4:59:02 GMT
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