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Post by Pavan on Mar 12, 2024 18:45:25 GMT
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Post by JangoB on Apr 4, 2024 14:11:31 GMT
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Post by JangoB on Apr 4, 2024 14:50:23 GMT
Hold up. So Maggie casts Christian Bale whose most legendary cinematic opponent was Ledger's Joker, then puts him in Jared Leto's Joker makeup and also hires the 2019's Joker DP Lawrence Sher... I'm sensing a pattern here
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Post by Pavan on Apr 4, 2024 18:16:32 GMT
Why is this giving Joker and Harley Quinn vibes? i thought this is a Frankenstein film set in the 1930s.
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Apr 4, 2024 18:42:32 GMT
Buckley is the reason to be excited for this. She looks incredible in that makeup
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Post by stephen on Apr 4, 2024 18:44:43 GMT
Honestly, I'm into their looks here.
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Post by SZilla on Apr 4, 2024 18:53:29 GMT
I hate this
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Post by JangoB on Apr 4, 2024 18:58:36 GMT
Honestly, I'm into their looks here. Put Jessie Buckley in Maestro and it's Stephen's favorite film of 2023.
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Post by stephen on Apr 4, 2024 19:10:33 GMT
Honestly, I'm into their looks here. Put Jessie Buckley in Maestro and it's Stephen's favorite film of 2023. Jessie Buckley and Gayle Rankin and Rory Kinnear were in Men so let's not pretend her mere presence in a movie guarantees I will love it. I'm just saying that it's clearly doing something based on Bale's aesthetic, and I don't hate the look.
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Post by JangoB on Apr 4, 2024 19:13:33 GMT
Put Jessie Buckley in Maestro and it's Stephen's favorite film of 2023. Jessie Buckley and Gayle Rankin and Rory Kinnear were in Men so let's not pretend her mere presence in a movie guarantees I will love it. I'm just saying that it's clearly doing something based on Bale's aesthetic, and I don't hate the look. I hope the word on Bale's chest is "Dope".
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Post by franklin on Apr 4, 2024 19:16:14 GMT
Future Best Actor winner Christian Bale.
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Post by Joaquim on Apr 4, 2024 23:51:42 GMT
Jessie Buckley and Gayle Rankin and Rory Kinnear were in Men so let's not pretend her mere presence in a movie guarantees I will love it. I'm just saying that it's clearly doing something based on Bale's aesthetic, and I don't hate the look. I hope the word on Bale's chest is "Dope". I hope it’s “cope”
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Post by The_Cake_of_Roth on Apr 5, 2024 2:41:48 GMT
I hope the word on Bale's chest is "Dope". I hope it’s “cope” I hope it's "misanthrope"
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Post by Archie on Apr 5, 2024 2:42:33 GMT
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Post by SZilla on Apr 5, 2024 3:16:43 GMT
Just realized that among the phrases written on Bale's jacket (most of which are too hard to read) there's the word "Verdorben" which translates to "spoiled". Ughhhhhhhh
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Post by rhodoraonline on Apr 5, 2024 22:34:44 GMT
Hold up. So Maggie casts Christian Bale whose most legendary cinematic opponent was Ledger's Joker, then puts him in Jared Leto's Joker makeup and also hires the 2019's Joker DP Lawrence Sher... I'm sensing a pattern here And from the only film in which Maggie ever co-stared with Bale too! lol But honestly, I find the look cool and it did NOT remind me of either Leto or Joker. I'm really surprised by these reactions. I AM confused however by the trades reporting this look as Frankenstein's monster??? I thought he was supposed to be the doctor, that's what all the early descriptions' been saying...
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Post by stephen on Apr 5, 2024 22:49:59 GMT
Hold up. So Maggie casts Christian Bale whose most legendary cinematic opponent was Ledger's Joker, then puts him in Jared Leto's Joker makeup and also hires the 2019's Joker DP Lawrence Sher... I'm sensing a pattern here And from the only film in which Maggie ever co-stared with Bale too! lol But honestly, I find the look cool and it did NOT remind me of either Leto or Joker. I'm really surprised by these reactions. I AM confused however by the trades reporting this look as Frankenstein's monster??? I thought he was supposed to be the doctor, that's what all the early descriptions' been saying... Hey, no one said that Frankenstein's monster couldn't get a Ph.D.
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Post by countjohn on Apr 6, 2024 0:08:16 GMT
Just realized that among the phrases written on Bale's jacket (most of which are too hard to read) there's the word "Verdorben" which translates to "spoiled". Ughhhhhhhh Interesting, so is the idea there that the monster is supposed to be "spoiled"? That would be........a take.........
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Post by rhodoraonline on Apr 6, 2024 17:33:07 GMT
And from the only film in which Maggie ever co-stared with Bale too! lol But honestly, I find the look cool and it did NOT remind me of either Leto or Joker. I'm really surprised by these reactions. I AM confused however by the trades reporting this look as Frankenstein's monster??? I thought he was supposed to be the doctor, that's what all the early descriptions' been saying... Hey, no one said that Frankenstein's monster couldn't get a Ph.D. That would be a fun take on this story!
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Post by stephen on Apr 6, 2024 18:41:04 GMT
Hey, no one said that Frankenstein's monster couldn't get a Ph.D. That would be a fun take on this story! Poor Things kinda rubs up on the idea in a way (Bella eventually coming home and taking up her father/creator's work), but I think there's something to be said for exploring the Frankenstein story from the perspective of the monster trying to rationalize its existence and the concept of a soul, and also wanting to forge its own pathway in life. And one of the things that I'm intrigued by in this one is the concept of sexuality and attraction: what if the Bride has no chemistry with the monster, or what if she's lesbian, etc.?
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Post by countjohn on Apr 6, 2024 19:47:47 GMT
That would be a fun take on this story! Poor Things kinda rubs up on the idea in a way (Bella eventually coming home and taking up her father/creator's work), but I think there's something to be said for exploring the Frankenstein story from the perspective of the monster trying to rationalize its existence and the concept of a soul, and also wanting to forge its own pathway in life. And one of the things that I'm intrigued by in this one is the concept of sexuality and attraction: what if the Bride has no chemistry with the monster, or what if she's lesbian, etc.? Bolded was pretty much already covered in the original, right? My concern for this is that it's pretty much going to cover the same thematic ground only with a bunch of anachronistic modern sexual consent jargon shoehorned in and take hours to not accomplish what the original accomplishes in the last two minutes, to paraphrase Lester Bangs in Almost Famous.
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Post by stephen on Apr 6, 2024 20:27:13 GMT
Poor Things kinda rubs up on the idea in a way (Bella eventually coming home and taking up her father/creator's work), but I think there's something to be said for exploring the Frankenstein story from the perspective of the monster trying to rationalize its existence and the concept of a soul, and also wanting to forge its own pathway in life. And one of the things that I'm intrigued by in this one is the concept of sexuality and attraction: what if the Bride has no chemistry with the monster, or what if she's lesbian, etc.? Bolded was pretty much already covered in the original, right? My concern for this is that it's pretty much going to cover the same thematic ground only with a bunch of anachronistic modern sexual consent jargon shoehorned in and take hours to not accomplish what the original accomplishes in the last two minutes, to paraphrase Lester Bangs in Almost Famous. It's covered perfectly in the original . . . but it's also not from the Bride's perspective. Her reaction is a punchline to the cosmic joke of Frankenstein's monster's existence. But I don't think that's what interests Gyllenhaal. I feel like it's going to be from the Bride's perspective, and be a more serious-minded take on what Poor Things achieved: the concept of a woman literally created to be a mate for another being, and coping with the reality that a.) she rejects her purpose and b.) seeks her own path and agency. You can argue that it's going to have anachronistic consent jargon, but the concept of consent from a woman's perspective isn't a modern thing.
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Post by rhodoraonline on Apr 7, 2024 12:39:36 GMT
That would be a fun take on this story! Poor Things kinda rubs up on the idea in a way (Bella eventually coming home and taking up her father/creator's work), but I think there's something to be said for exploring the Frankenstein story from the perspective of the monster trying to rationalize its existence and the concept of a soul, and also wanting to forge its own pathway in life. And one of the things that I'm intrigued by in this one is the concept of sexuality and attraction: what if the Bride has no chemistry with the monster, or what if she's lesbian, etc.? We can only hope that it's why MG took up this project, to explore some of these questions. But what's wierd about what you said is that it's in the vein of what I actually thought at the end of Barbie. When out of the blue her humanity was reduced to a question about gynecology, it just felt wierd to me as a woman and made me think what other ways that last part of showing her leap to the full spectrum of humanity could have been like instead of a rather brainless reductionism...
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Post by The_Cake_of_Roth on Apr 30, 2024 5:11:39 GMT
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Post by The_Cake_of_Roth on May 1, 2024 4:54:45 GMT
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