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Post by Brother Fease on May 10, 2023 22:44:21 GMT
Richard Dreyfuss made the news recently, when he came out against the Academy's new diversity requirements for Best Picture eligibility. It turns out no best picture nominee since 1980 would have been disqualified under the new guidelines.
What do you guys think? Is this enough? Do we need such requirements?
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Post by Martin Stett on May 11, 2023 0:39:24 GMT
It's all a load of virtue signaling bullshit. Which is fine by me: when they start genuinely fucking with requirements is when it becomes an issue.
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Post by Brother Fease on May 11, 2023 0:48:32 GMT
It's all a load of virtue signaling bullshit. Which is fine by me: when they start genuinely fucking with requirements is when it becomes an issue. That is my feeling too. These "requirements" are relatively easy to fulfill. |
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on May 11, 2023 1:47:35 GMT
Did Dreyfuss even read the standards or is he just being a reactionary fossil. Go over a list of important movies from the last 20 years and I'd bet 99% of them pass these standards, so it's questionable whether they actually change much if anything but they'll definitely piss off the kind of people who wear "all lives matter" t-shirts.
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Post by Brother Fease on May 11, 2023 2:20:14 GMT
Did Dreyfuss even read the standards or is he just being a reactionary fossil. Go over a list of important movies from the last 20 years and I'd bet 99% of them pass these standards, so it's questionable whether they actually change much if anything but they'll definitely piss off the kind of people who wear "all lives matter" t-shirts. He is probably confused and received bad information. At least I hope so. The two big things people have to understand is: (1) Every Best Picture nominee since 1980 would have passed the diversity test, and (2) You will be hard to pressed to find a single film which doesn't meet the standards. People have pointed out that Othello [/i] (yes, the blackface film) and The Bridge Over River Kwai would have still made the cut. It is an easy requirement. [/div]
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Post by quetee on May 11, 2023 3:31:19 GMT
The whole think is fake fake fake
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Post by pacinoyes on May 11, 2023 7:59:31 GMT
He's right in the general, not the specific sense - he can not have his artistry infinged upon and act in any production he wants - just not for an Oscar.......it's their industry, their award, their rules...... He was more interesting discussing Olivier's Othello, though he's wrong about that too (he wasn't the last to play it in blackface - Hopkins and Scofield did it later - Hopkins filmed on TV) and that's actually insightful about exactly why Olivier had to do it, was right to do it, was great doing it and Pauline Kael was right about praising it too.......Dreyfuss doesn't quite say that but that's what's really on his mind not the Oscar Diversity Requrements per se...........although he again mischaracterizes that too - you can play Othello too pal - you just can't get an Oscar for it Here's the whole Firing Line interview with Margaret Hoover - who is yet another sexy af Conservative in her 40s - but I digress because that might be too close to "politics" and what not  .....Dreyfuss gets to the movie stuff @ around 20 minutes or so |
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Post by Brother Fease on May 11, 2023 11:16:30 GMT
He's right in the general, not the specific sense - he can not have his artistry infinged upon and act in any production he wants - just not for an Oscar.......it's their industry, their award, their rules...... He was more interesting discussing Olivier's Othello, though he's wrong about that too (he wasn't the last to play it in blackface - Hopkins and Scofield did it later - Hopkins filmed on TV) and that's actually insightful about exactly why Olivier had to do it, was right to do it, was great doing it and Pauline Kael was right about praising it too.......Dreyfuss doesn't quite say that but that's what's really on his mind not the Oscar Diversity Requrements per se...........although he again mischaracterizes that too - you can play Othello too pal - you just can't get an Oscar for it I understand his point - Hollywood should be allowed to make movies they want to make. They shouldn't have to bow down to the "diversity police" and adhere to their standards morals. Based on what I am seeing, Hollywood is becoming more friendlier to black, Asian, Latino, and women. Just look at the recent winners. The diversity requirements are more about the publicity. Their rules don't really disqualify any film. You can make a movie with an all white male cast and all white male directing, writing, and producing team and still be eligible for Best Picture. |
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Post by JangoB on May 11, 2023 11:28:59 GMT
Did Dreyfuss even read the standards or is he just being a reactionary fossil. Go over a list of important movies from the last 20 years and I'd bet 99% of them pass these standards, so it's questionable whether they actually change much if anything but they'll definitely piss off the kind of people who wear "all lives matter" t-shirts. ...People have pointed out that Best Picture winners Othello (yes, the blackface film)...
Huh?  |
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Post by Brother Fease on May 11, 2023 14:31:29 GMT
...People have pointed out that Best Picture winners Othello (yes, the blackface film)...
Huh? Correction made. Thank you for noticing. Got mixed up with another best picture winner. BTW - that is a truly awful picture. |
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Post by Pittsnogle_Goggins on Jan 8, 2024 22:28:04 GMT
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Post by Archie on Jan 8, 2024 22:33:47 GMT
Here's how The Creator can still win BP!
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Jan 8, 2024 22:35:38 GMT
all terrible movies
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Post by The_Cake_of_Roth on Jan 8, 2024 22:35:43 GMT
Well shit, The Creator was supposed to be a lock...
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Post by Brother Fease on Jan 8, 2024 22:39:40 GMT
William Hurt's five minute performance in A History of Violence comes to mind here.
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Post by finniussnrub on Jan 8, 2024 22:41:37 GMT
20 Days in Mariupol really needed more diversity in that warzone.
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Post by Brother Fease on Jan 8, 2024 22:41:45 GMT
That should have been the real reason. |
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Post by sterlingarcher86 on Jan 8, 2024 22:52:04 GMT
Well shit, The Creator was supposed to be a lock... Top 5 movie |
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Post by pacinoyes on Jan 8, 2024 23:06:54 GMT
Amused by the word "enforced" in the tweet.....one day DEI will really be enforced ........and I may be killed for my lack of compliance and sarcasm which of course is just another way of not having to mean what you say ........suspicious & unacceptable...... |
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Post by Brother Fease on Jan 9, 2024 0:05:08 GMT
Amused by the word "enforced" in the tweet.... .one day DEI will really be enforced ........and I may be killed for my lack of compliance and sarcasm which of course is just another way of not having to mean what you say ........suspicious & unacceptable...... I took DEI training at work. It was a decent program -- you learn about gender diversity and realizing that we're all biased and have privileges. My only complaint is the length - 7 hours, spread across a year's timeline. No matter where we stand on this diversity requirement for the Academy, we all know it is artificial and lip service. It is rather pathetic that a documentary about Putin's invasion of the Ukrainian somehow lacks diversity. Now, I am pulling for it to get nominated for Documentary and International Feature. |
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Jan 9, 2024 1:57:55 GMT
back when I worked at Target, I wish we'd have gotten a DEI presentation instead of a lecture on how we couldn't unionize.
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Post by Brother Fease on Jan 9, 2024 3:31:43 GMT
back when I worked at Target, I wish we'd have gotten a DEI presentation instead of a lecture on how we couldn't unionize. Sorry to hear that. DEI presentation/training is not as scary as some people in our society think it is. It requires you to come in with an open mind and listen. It's not really ideological. It is basically the principle of "lets be nice to each other, so we don't get sued". It shouldn't be conflated with the ridiculous Best Picture requirements. |
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.....Dreyfuss gets to the movie stuff @ around 20 minutes or so
