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Post by Brother Fease on Mar 14, 2023 15:36:00 GMT
Here's some popular ideas:
Best Casting - The BAFTAs have added a new category, for best casting. It's not an ensemble award, but about rewarding casting directors for their ability to pick the right people for the roles.
Best Choreography & Stunt Coordination - SAG gives awards for best stunt ensemble.
Best Animated Feature Voice - Rewarding actors for providing great voice work for animated or digital performances.
Six Acting nominees - Instead of going with five, bump it up to six or maybe seven.
Six Director nominees - Add another Best Director nominee.
Ranked Voting for more categories - The winner must get over 50% of the popular vote to win.
Best Documentary Screenplay - Self-explanatory.
Best Performance in a Short Film - Reward for best performances in a short film
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Post by stephen on Mar 14, 2023 15:48:09 GMT
No to all of them.
Casting directors do a great job and should be recognized in some way, but a lot of projects are also built around actors, or the producers/directors choose the headliners before the casting directors get involved. So at what point do you credit it to the casting director? Furthermore, we definitely shouldn't be giving out more acting awards to people, so doing it like SAG is not a good idea.
Stunt/Choreography is a great idea in theory, but in practice, the reason it doesn't exist is because of the prevailing fear that stunts would get increasingly more dangerous with the hopes of obtaining an Oscar, and could cause life-threatening situations all for the sake of an award. If they could ensure protective measures for it, then sure, but I'm more of the opinion it could be a special achievement award we get every so often.
Best Animated Feature voice. No. If they're good enough, they should be able to compete in the main acting categories. The mindset needs to be changed that animated performances should be considered, not that there needs to be a distinction. Same with your short film performance suggestion.
No more slots for acting/direction. As someone who has seven slots per category bar Picture, I at least have it because I know I see a hell of a lot more films than the Academy generally does, and to add these extra slots only serves to make tight races non-existent.
Best Documentary Screenplay -- again, no. They should be considered in the main categories, not relegated to a special category.
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Post by stabcaesar on Mar 14, 2023 15:50:43 GMT
The one rule they definitely should have established long ago is that members need to prove that they have watched the movie to submit their ballot.
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Post by JangoB on Mar 14, 2023 15:55:26 GMT
If your name is Diane Warren you're automatically ineligible for Best Original Song.
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Post by quetee on Mar 14, 2023 16:03:52 GMT
The one rule they definitely should have established long ago is that members need to prove that they have watched the movie to submit their ballot. If Netflix can tell how long people watched a movie then the Academy can tell also. They need to hold members accountable for their viewing habits. Right now, I think people just vote to say, look I get to vote. So if a person doesn't watch until say all nominees have been on screen then their vote doesn't count. I wouldn't tell them how long because they could just allow the movie to play and they are not there but I doubt someone will go through that much trouble because that would be time consuming. |
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Post by TylerDeneuve on Mar 14, 2023 16:07:44 GMT
There definitely needs to be a code of ethics applied to what is eligible for the Supporting Acting categories. One of the easiest ones to my mind would be to say that if you are top-billed/billed above the line, you're ineligible for consideration in the Supporting categories... (Looking at you, Carey Mulligan in She Said.  ) Obviously there would be exceptions for true ensemble films, like Women Talking. |
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Post by finniussnrub on Mar 14, 2023 16:07:49 GMT
Put a percentage cap on supporting, which automatically places certain performances in lead. Allow an appeal process though that must be submitted by the performer themselves not the studio.
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Post by TylerDeneuve on Mar 14, 2023 16:11:55 GMT
If your name is Diane Warren you're automatically ineligible for Best Original Song.   |
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Post by pacinoyes on Mar 14, 2023 16:14:06 GMT
* Looking at you Angela Bassett - If you're a nominee and you don't clap or stand for your category winner - you will be executed....don't attend ok? Thanks......
* Stop with the age jokes - you can make age jokes about me - that's cool, I'll outlive you all anyway through my deal with Lucifer - but you can't mock anyone else - ugly people, fatties, awful fashion criminals ........so jokes about attendees age, weight, race, sex, gender, religion (even Scientology) are off limits from the host especially a host as unfunny as Jimmy Kimmel.......every year its the same joke about the oldest nominee......you harrassed Chris Plummer to the grave ........and now tried to do it to Judd Hirsch.....it's excruciating ......
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Mar 14, 2023 16:21:01 GMT
I will die on the hill of wanting them to go back to separate sound categories.
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Post by michael128 on Mar 14, 2023 16:24:44 GMT
Elimination of non-filmmaking awards (original song). It should just be changed to best use of music (original or not) and the music director or whatever should get the award.
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Post by stabcaesar on Mar 14, 2023 16:26:48 GMT
* Looking at you Angela Bassett - If you're a nominee and you don't clap or stand for your category winner - you will be executed....don't attend ok? Thanks...... That is fake news. She was standing when JLC walked on stage. |
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Post by countjohn on Mar 14, 2023 16:28:31 GMT
There definitely needs to be a code of ethics applied to what is eligible for the Supporting Acting categories. One of the easiest ones to my mind would be to say that if you are top-billed/billed above the line, you're ineligible for consideration in the Supporting categories... (Looking at you, Carey Mulligan in She Said. ) Obviously there would be exceptions for true ensemble films, like Women Talking. I think ultimately this is just subjective and there's no way to really enforce it. The "above the line" doesn't work either since there's a lot of cases of big stars getting their name before the title for what are clearly supporting roles (Brando in Apocalypse Now, Cruise in Magnolia, Hackman in Unforgiven, exc). Casting directors do a great job and should be recognized in some way, but a lot of projects are also built around actors, or the producers/directors choose the headliners before the casting directors get involved. So at what point do you credit it to the casting director? Furthermore, we definitely shouldn't be giving out more acting awards to people, so doing it like SAG is not a good idea. I think the idea of awarding casting directors is more for all the small parts being really well cast, which often the director doesn't bother with unless it's a control freak auteur, not for the leads. Agree the actors shouldn't win for that, it should just be for the casting director. Producers get a BP statue despite often having nothing to do with the artistic quality of the movie so I don't think there's anything wrong with awarding casting directors even if there's some ambiguity as to who is calling the shots. Really that's the case with almost all the technical categories, some directors effectively serve as the cinematographer/editor of their own films and just credit other people to comply with guild rules, some are really hands on with costumes, exc. But we still have separate awards for all of those things. |
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Post by michael128 on Mar 14, 2023 16:32:21 GMT
And if they must keep their Grammy award, they should just have Beyoncé perform them all every year. It worked before.
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Post by countjohn on Mar 14, 2023 16:34:49 GMT
Not necessarily saying we should do this, but I think the concept of a split award for "Best Production" is interesting like they had at the first Oscars. Wings gets credited as the first BP winner but that won the production award, Sunrise won "Best Artistic Feature" which is more directly analogous to the modern BP award. The best production seems to me an award for the best overall production values.
I think the winners would be the same a lot of the time but not always. With how well it did in the techs this year All Quiet on the Western Front probably wins the production award with EEAAO winning the artistic award (which could still just be called Best Picture and close the show, the production award would be a separate thing). Some other splits might have been Dune last year, 1917 in 19, Dunkirk in 17, La La Land in 16, The Revenant in 15, Avatar in 09 exc.
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Post by filmnoir on Mar 14, 2023 17:40:28 GMT
* Looking at you Angela Bassett - If you're a nominee and you don't clap or stand for your category winner - you will be executed....don't attend ok? Thanks...... * Stop with the age jokes - you can make age jokes about me - that's cool, I'll outlive you all anyway through my deal with Lucifer - but you can't mock anyone else - ugly people, fatties, awful fashion criminals ........so jokes about attendees age, weight, race, sex, gender, religion (even Scientology) are off limits from the host especially a host as unfunny as Jimmy Kimmel.......every year its the same joke about the oldest nominee......you harrassed Chris Plummer to the grave ........and now tried to do it to Judd Hirsch.....it's excruciating ...... No. If anything, it should be the opposite - with the rehearsed applause, etc. Bassett is allowed to react the way she feels. There is nothing wrong with wanting to win. The host's monologue always resolves around the nominees. And you want to be included than ignored. To claim that it harassed Plummer to his grave - is ridiculous. BTW, Kimmel gave a really nice shout out to James Hong. |
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Post by pacinoyes on Mar 14, 2023 17:45:25 GMT
* Looking at you Angela Bassett - If you're a nominee and you don't clap or stand for your category winner - you will be executed....don't attend ok? Thanks...... * Stop with the age jokes - you can make age jokes about me - that's cool, I'll outlive you all anyway through my deal with Lucifer - but you can't mock anyone else - ugly people, fatties, awful fashion criminals ........so jokes about attendees age, weight, race, sex, gender, religion (even Scientology) are off limits from the host especially a host as unfunny as Jimmy Kimmel.......every year its the same joke about the oldest nominee......you harrassed Chris Plummer to the grave ........and now tried to do it to Judd Hirsch.....it's excruciating ...... No. If anything, it should be the opposite - with the rehearsed applause, etc. Bassett is allowed to react the way she feels. There is nothing wrong with wanting to win. The host's monologue always resolves around the nominees. And you want to be included than ignored. To claim that it harassed Plummer to his grave - is ridiculous. BTW, Kimmel gave a really nice shout out to James Hong. 1. Lighten up - the Plummer thing - the whole post ^ was said in jest and was a joke - to think I was serious is rather what is "ridiculous"......JFC 2. Fuck Angela Bassett and the way she "feels" - don't show up if you can't take the loss ......... 3. Fuck Jimmy Kimmel ...........but ok sure that's nice about James Hong....... |
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Post by stabcaesar on Mar 14, 2023 17:49:32 GMT
No. If anything, it should be the opposite - with the rehearsed applause, etc. Bassett is allowed to react the way she feels. There is nothing wrong with wanting to win. The host's monologue always resolves around the nominees. And you want to be included than ignored. To claim that it harassed Plummer to his grave - is ridiculous. BTW, Kimmel gave a really nice shout out to James Hong. 1. Lighten up - the Plummer thing - the whole post ^ was said in jest and was a joke - to think I was serious is rather what is "ridiculous"......JFC 2. Fuck Angela Bassett and the way she "feels" - don't show up if you can't take the loss ......... 3. Fuck Jimmy Kimmel ...........but ok sure that's nice about James Hong....... Angela Bassett didn’t even do anything. She was standing when everyone else was. |
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Post by pacinoyes on Mar 14, 2023 17:52:21 GMT
1. Lighten up - the Plummer thing - the whole post ^ was said in jest and was a joke - to think I was serious is rather what is "ridiculous"......JFC 2. Fuck Angela Bassett and the way she "feels" - don't show up if you can't take the loss ......... 3. Fuck Jimmy Kimmel ...........but ok sure that's nice about James Hong....... . She was standing when everyone else was. She was a sore loser who didn't clap..........nice she stood though - I didn't see her stand but it's nice if she stood......good for her. I'm glad she stood - hope she had a nice view....... When you say "she didn't even do anything" you're absolutely right - because she sure didn't even clap  |
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Post by filmnoir on Mar 14, 2023 17:53:02 GMT
No. If anything, it should be the opposite - with the rehearsed applause, etc. Bassett is allowed to react the way she feels. There is nothing wrong with wanting to win. The host's monologue always resolves around the nominees. And you want to be included than ignored. To claim that it harassed Plummer to his grave - is ridiculous. BTW, Kimmel gave a really nice shout out to James Hong. 1. Lighten up - the Plummer thing - the whole post ^ was said in jest and was a joke - to think I was serious is rather what is "ridiculous"......JFC 2. Fuck Angela Bassett and the way she "feels" - don't show up if you can't take the loss ......... 3. Fuck Jimmy Kimmel ...........but ok sure that's nice about James Hong....... What about Kerry Condon? She didn't look too happy - but forced a smile, applause. |
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Post by pacinoyes on Mar 14, 2023 17:57:48 GMT
1. Lighten up - the Plummer thing - the whole post ^ was said in jest and was a joke - to think I was serious is rather what is "ridiculous"......JFC 2. Fuck Angela Bassett and the way she "feels" - don't show up if you can't take the loss ......... 3. Fuck Jimmy Kimmel ...........but ok sure that's nice about James Hong....... What about Kerry Condon? She didn't look too happy - but forced a smile, applause. Yeah.......you know we can only set these rules we can't actually enforce intent - you just either have to clap or stand if there's a standing ovation for my rule ......after all I'm threatening to kill people here............. so a forced smile would technically spare Condon's life ...........if she also applauded that is  |
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Post by Pittsnogle_Goggins on Mar 14, 2023 18:24:07 GMT
I’m on board with 6 nominees for acting and directing tbh
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Post by Pittsnogle_Goggins on Mar 14, 2023 18:26:00 GMT
Best Animated Feature voice. No. If they're good enough, they should be able to compete in the main acting categories. The mindset needs to be changed that animated performances should be considered, not that there needs to be a distinction. Same with your short film performance suggestion. This will never happen though |
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Post by stephen on Mar 14, 2023 18:35:49 GMT
Best Animated Feature voice. No. If they're good enough, they should be able to compete in the main acting categories. The mindset needs to be changed that animated performances should be considered, not that there needs to be a distinction. Same with your short film performance suggestion. This will never happen though Then so be it. Not every year has a voice performance worthy of acclaim and they'd probably default to the biggest name. Imagine a world where Chris Pratt wins for playing Mario. Besides, Eddie Murphy got the BAFTA nomination for Shrek so it is possible. But I don't think adding a new category and furthering that delineation is the way to do it. |
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Post by SZilla on Mar 14, 2023 18:41:52 GMT
There should be a strict - Don't Clap until the very end of the In Memoriam portion. It always comes off so classless when you hear certain names get more applause than another.
Side note - I also don't care about who's performing the song during the In Memoriam tribute and I don't need the camera to go to the performer's face every 10 seconds or so. Use that time to add more deceased figures into the tribute.
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) Obviously there would be exceptions for true ensemble films, like Women Talking. 
