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Post by merchandise on May 14, 2017 5:09:12 GMT
AKA be an amazing reboot/sequel to an 80s sci-fi movie, be nominated for a thousand Oscars, and actually win some?
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Post by stephen on May 14, 2017 5:12:47 GMT
I think it's very possible. It's got the benefit of a late-season release and if it gets the critical push, it could be a massive threat for a technical sweep.
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Post by DeepArcher on May 14, 2017 5:17:42 GMT
Absolutely. Deakins has one of the best overdue narratives of any active person in the industry. Villeneueve's popularity is peaking at the right time to claim a Best Director win. Add in very good shots at Production Design, VFX, Sound, Editing, and possibly Score, and 2049 will inevitably be a huge contender in the tech categories, assuming it lives up to the hype. Though Dunkirk seems poised to be worthy competition in many of its most favorable categories.
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Post by merchandise on May 14, 2017 5:18:27 GMT
It's hard to see it garnering as many as Mad Max did because that seemed like a "lightning in a bottle" thing, but I'd say setting the bar at something as simple as getting a nomination outside of visual effects and sound would be a success.
Edit: Also, I did not know Deakins was doing 2049. Holy fuck, yes.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2017 5:36:45 GMT
AKA be an amazing reboot/sequel to an 80s sci-fi movie, be nominated for a thousand Oscars, and actually win some? If it's good enough, I honestly hope it wins Best Picture. Seriously, science fiction film winning Best Picture is seriously long overdue.
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Post by pendragon on May 14, 2017 6:20:57 GMT
It's possible, though Blade Runner 2049 has much bigger shoes to fill than Fury Road. The Mad Max series has always been more of a cult thing, so the expectations for Fury Road were never that high. Blade Runner, on the other hand, is one of the greatest science fiction films of all time. I'm wondering that, even if 2049 is well received, its Oscar pull might be closer to The Force Awakens.
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Post by atn on May 14, 2017 8:03:48 GMT
Dunkirk will be a steep hill to climb for techs but hope so
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2017 8:34:42 GMT
I expect it to pull more of a Judgment Day, dominating techs but being completely shut out of general categories. Hope I'm wrong in my hopes tho.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2017 17:04:48 GMT
Maybe
It already has more attention than Mad Max ever did and far more prestige
Though, Mad Max was a pure action thrill ride while Blade Runner is dense sci-fi which could prove somewhat alienating
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Post by notacrook on May 14, 2017 17:16:30 GMT
If it lives up to the hype, then definitely. I think Blade Runner is more well-regarded than Mad Max already, so 2049 just needs to be good and it'll be in contention for sure.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2017 19:02:55 GMT
Much like how 'notocrook' said; If it can live up to the hype. For whatever obscure reason, I thought 'The Dark Tower' could've pulled a "Fury Road," but after seeing the trailer...
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Post by mrimpossible on May 14, 2017 21:22:05 GMT
October is the perfect month for Oscar releases so maybe. Although I don't think it'll win as many Oscars. I predict 4 at most if it is a hit with the Academy.
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Post by getclutch on Jun 2, 2017 6:04:11 GMT
I'd love to see that. So, yes.
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Post by Pavan on Jun 2, 2017 10:17:13 GMT
Not exactly that but I'd love to see 2049 living up to Blade Runner's name. Denis is on fire and the casting is good. Even if it doesn't garner a BP, it will be a strong contender in the techs. Deakins is long overdue and this might be his first Oscar.
On the other hand there is Dunkirk. Climbing that mammoth is not easy for a hard sci-fi like 2049 (assuming it as one) but all I'm hoping for is a cinematography Oscar for my man Roger.
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Post by therealcomicman117 on Jun 2, 2017 17:58:23 GMT
Depending on who well its received, I'd certainly say it's a possibly.
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Post by alexanderblanchett on Jun 5, 2017 13:30:11 GMT
Well Villeneuve is on a run but no I don't think so. I think it will be a very good sic fi film with good reviews and box office and a couple of technical noms/wins but I dont see it in any major categories.
But then I said the same about MMFR.
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Post by Billy_Costigan on Jun 5, 2017 14:25:00 GMT
At this point, it has a better chance. Nobody really expected much from Fury Road pre-release. Blade Runner has more prestige and a fall release date. Villeneuve is coming off a Best Director nod - and his previous film was nominated for 8 Oscars.
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Post by countjohn on Jun 6, 2017 22:13:49 GMT
Given the pedigree of the first movie I think Blade Runner has a much better chance pre-release than Mad Max did, especially since it would be a chance to "make up" for the first film being ignored. I'm not actually expecting it to be that good, though.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2017 7:15:51 GMT
Will Mavityā€¸ @mavericksmovies 9m9 minutes ago For those wondering if Harrison Ford will get an Oscar nom for Blade Runner, apparently he doesn't show up until the 3rd act, 2 hours in.
Could struggle for BP and directing noms if the film is as inaccessible and dense as early buzz indicates
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Post by AKenjiB on Jun 7, 2017 7:47:32 GMT
If it's as critically acclaimed as Mad Max: Fury Road was, I think it's a possibility. There's already been so much attention on Deakins' cinematography that even if the film isn't acclaimed, he could very well be nominated, maybe even win. If it is acclaimed though, then I think there's a lot of possibility. While sci-fi is usually not recognized by the Academy, Arrival was one of the most nominated films of last year, so if Denis Villenueve can get a directing nod for a sci-fi film once, maybe he can do it again.
And of course, just speaking in general, while the Academy has always had an iffy history with genre films, the recent Academy success of Fury Road and Arrival could suggest that things are changing.
This is crazy speculative, but it'd be pretty cool if Harrison Ford got a nom, like Sylvester Stallone in Creed. But I guess we'll have to wait and see how his performance is before getting too far into that discussion.
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Post by mikediastavrone96 on Jun 7, 2017 16:06:38 GMT
I'm extremely doubtful of it. I know a lot of people are thinking it could because Blade Runner is a classic, but I think that's precisely why it's going to have trouble. There is a whole heap of expectation on the film following a pretty dense sci-fi that took years to pick up a major following in its own right.
Mad Max: Fury Road was a freight train of a film storming through May to help redefine summer action, with plenty of subtext to help bolster its claim as a critical favorite but could be enjoyed just as much as an ultimate thrill ride. Blade Runner 2049 looks like the exact opposite: a patient tech noir full of Ryan Gosling staring straight-faced at stuff and pondering complicated ideas coming out in October where it's going to rely heavily on the immediate reaction to the film. And as I've already hinted at, Blade Runner doesn't exactly have the greatest reputation for first impressions.
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Post by morton on Jun 7, 2017 16:32:03 GMT
I'm extremely doubtful of it. I know a lot of people are thinking it could because Blade Runner is a classic, but I think that's precisely why it's going to have trouble. There is a whole heap of expectation on the film following a pretty dense sci-fi that took years to pick up a major following in its own right. Mad Max: Fury Road was a freight train of a film storming through May to help redefine summer action, with plenty of subtext to help bolster its claim as a critical favorite but could be enjoyed just as much as an ultimate thrill ride. Blade Runner 2049 looks like the exact opposite: a patient tech noir full of Ryan Gosling staring straight-faced at stuff and pondering complicated ideas coming out in October where it's going to rely heavily on the immediate reaction to the film. And as I've already hinted at, Blade Runner doesn't exactly have the greatest reputation for first impressions. I'm also very doubtful that this will be an Oscar player beyond techs. I just think that the success of Mad Max: Fury Road would be hard to duplicate. It came out in a rather weak year where the other two top Oscar films were either a small film about the Catholic priesthood scandal coverup which kept faltering in its awards' run until the Oscars where it finally maxed out on nominations, and a very late breaking film directed by the previous Best Director winner that wasn't that warmly received and that had some people complaining about being hard to sit through because of the violence. Plus, Warner Brothers didn't really have anything else that year except Creed, but the Rocky franchise came with its own baggage, and they probably released it too late/didn't push it hard enough to maximize its Oscar chances beyond Sylvester Stallone. While Dunkirk could possibly bomb or disappoint, right now it just makes more sense that WB would push that more for Oscars. Also, as you say Fury Road had the plenty of subtext that made it "important" and appeal to those AMPAS members that value that in a Best Picture nominee/winner, but I agree that I could see Blade Runner:2049 being the opposite of that if it's like the original. It may not also be able to live up to the original either given how acclaimed that film is now. The Mad Max films were acclaimed, but I don't think they were on the level of Blade Runner, and I think it helped that George Miller was behind all of them and Fury Road was obviously a passion project for Miller.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2017 13:17:48 GMT
Why not?!
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Post by morton on Jun 19, 2017 14:20:31 GMT
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Post by merchandise on Oct 7, 2017 17:02:09 GMT
K now that we've seen it and it bombed at the box office, whatcha think?
I say nah now. Best chances for noms are cinematography (and I'm going to admit here, it's pretty but really nothing special, I'd pick Dunkirk over it) and production design and VFX and I guess sound. Nothing else.
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