|
Post by stabcaesar on Jan 24, 2023 15:05:01 GMT
Well every C list actor will be doing the same thing next year and it won't work again so yeah maybe it won't be an issue after all. I guess to elaborate more, what’s wrong with trying to shake of the status quo of standard Studio Campaigns? I’d like to see a continued dismantling of what’s been the norm for decades. Well like I said, it won't dismantle anything. Next year everyone will follow Riseborough's playbook and it likely won't work again.
|
|
|
Post by fiosnasiob on Jan 24, 2023 16:54:10 GMT
SO F/cking deserved !!!! This is not just the best performance of the year regardless of gender, it's head and shoulders above the rest. Such a devastatingly raw and honest portrayal, it's almost uncanny how intensely and vividly she's able to capture that character in every seconds she appears on screen, sheer perfection.
|
|
|
Post by stephen on Jan 24, 2023 17:10:03 GMT
SO F/cking deserved !!!! This is not just the best performance of the year regardless of gender, it's head and shoulders above the rest. Such a devastatingly raw and honest portrayal, it's almost uncanny how intensely and vividly she's able to capture that character in every seconds she appears on screen, sheer perfection. People are pressed about the campaign and the snubs, but I think this is the best nomination in this category since Olivia’s Oscar win.
|
|
|
Post by fiosnasiob on Jan 24, 2023 17:35:50 GMT
SO F/cking deserved !!!! This is not just the best performance of the year regardless of gender, it's head and shoulders above the rest. Such a devastatingly raw and honest portrayal, it's almost uncanny how intensely and vividly she's able to capture that character in every seconds she appears on screen, sheer perfection. People are pressed about the campaign and the snubs, but I think this is the best nomination in this category since Olivia’s Oscar win. Right and also all those "people" haven't watched the movie. I think it's nearly impossible to watch Andrea's work in this movie and not be happy to see her getting nominated.
|
|
|
Post by Ryan_MYeah on Jan 24, 2023 18:04:12 GMT
Ok, I take it all back. It CAN be done
|
|
|
Post by stephen on Jan 24, 2023 18:32:50 GMT
The game just changed.
|
|
|
Post by stabcaesar on Jan 24, 2023 18:36:42 GMT
Did it though? It might have worked on one actor this time, but what if 10 actors in small indie movies try to follow the same playbook next year? I doubt it would work again. It feels like a once in a decade thing.
|
|
|
Post by stephen on Jan 24, 2023 18:38:11 GMT
Did it though? It might have worked on one actor this time, but what if 10 actors in small indie movies try to follow the same playbook next year? I doubt it would work again. It feels like a once in a decade thing. It showed that independent grassroots campaigns can work, and studios may recalibrate their promotional efforts and strategies to capitalize on timing.
|
|
|
Post by Billy_Costigan on Jan 24, 2023 18:45:41 GMT
Well every C list actor will be doing the same thing next year and it won't work again so yeah maybe it won't be an issue after all. I guess to elaborate more, what’s wrong with trying to shake of the status quo of standard Studio Campaigns? I’d like to see a continued dismantling of what’s been the norm for decades. There's nothing wrong with it. If anything, it feels like a more natural way to score a nomination instead of having a studio throw tons of money around.
A list actors/actresses have always campaigned and held screenings for people/films in the past. So I don't know why some are acting like it's an issue now.
|
|
|
Post by PromNightCarrie on Jan 24, 2023 22:19:13 GMT
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
Likes:
|
Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2023 22:21:43 GMT
Andrea Riseborough in Alone Yet Not Alone To Leslie.
|
|
Barbie
Full Member
Posts: 866
Likes: 537
|
Post by Barbie on Jan 24, 2023 22:23:05 GMT
CAA? Of course. They’re always involved in something controversial.
|
|
SZilla
Badass
Posts: 1,464
Likes: 995
|
Post by SZilla on Jan 24, 2023 23:28:55 GMT
Even this doesn’t seem that controversial. Essentially they showed the film to their friend (Stern) who liked it enough to rave about it on his show. Then once some buzz started to show up thanks to Variety and the Indie Spirits, the director and his wife reached out to their friends asking them to promote the film (and I’m sure showing them the film in the first place.) It doesn’t sound like any of the actors that promoted the film and Riseborough were forced to do anything. They just liked the film and their friend’s performance enough to promote it.
|
|
|
Post by Allenism on Jan 24, 2023 23:38:58 GMT
So basically a project that felt DOA was unearthed by someone with the right type of clout and their personal response to it motivated them to use their industry network to push forward a grassroots campaign that peaked when voting began. Weirder shit does happen, but not often. We'll only be able to see how precedent-setting this nomination is over time.
|
|
futuretrunks
Based
Posts: 3,205
Likes: 1,426
Member is Online
|
Post by futuretrunks on Jan 25, 2023 0:54:33 GMT
I think she Bardems it Biutiful. Yep, this obscure character actress is totally comparable to an Oscar-winning global A-Lister working with a beloved auteur. Riseborough is massively respected though, like she's considered more of a chameleon than DDL/Oldman in some circles. That's more of a common denominator needed than being a known name or working with an acclaimed auteur. If you have like 60 Oscar nominated/winning actors/actresses supporting you on twitter, you have a chance. She could easily have missed the nomination, but once the machinery got moving...
|
|
|
Post by PromNightCarrie on Jan 25, 2023 16:30:25 GMT
Even this doesn’t seem that controversial. Essentially they showed the film to their friend (Stern) who liked it enough to rave about it on his show. Then once some buzz started to show up thanks to Variety and the Indie Spirits, the director and his wife reached out to their friends asking them to promote the film (and I’m sure showing them the film in the first place.) It doesn’t sound like any of the actors that promoted the film and Riseborough were forced to do anything. They just liked the film and their friend’s performance enough to promote it. I don't think it should be controversial. If this becomes a pattern, the critique I can see people making is "now it comes down to what friends you have." But at the same time, was it not a popularity contest when someone like Sandra Bullock won their Oscar? It was just on a grand scale and done in a familiar way.
|
|
|
Post by stephen on Jan 25, 2023 16:39:10 GMT
Even this doesn’t seem that controversial. Essentially they showed the film to their friend (Stern) who liked it enough to rave about it on his show. Then once some buzz started to show up thanks to Variety and the Indie Spirits, the director and his wife reached out to their friends asking them to promote the film (and I’m sure showing them the film in the first place.) It doesn’t sound like any of the actors that promoted the film and Riseborough were forced to do anything. They just liked the film and their friend’s performance enough to promote it. I don't think it should be controversial. If this becomes a pattern, the critique I can see people making is "now it comes down to what friends you have." But at the same time, was it not a popularity contest when someone like Sandra Bullock won their Oscar? It was just on a grand scale and done in a familiar way. It's always been a popularity contest. Always.
|
|
|
Post by sirjeremy on Jan 27, 2023 17:59:27 GMT
|
|
|
Post by stephen on Jan 27, 2023 18:02:06 GMT
Yeah, there's nothing going to come from this. It's just a PR move to basically have the Academy "save face" by looking into it in order to placate the outcry but nothing that was done is anything that studios don't do on a far grander scale. And there is precedent: Nicholas Chartier was banned from attending the Oscars but he still won for The Hurt Locker for outright telling people not to vote for Avatar. Riseborough didn't do anything like that.
|
|
|
Post by mikediastavrone96 on Jan 27, 2023 18:08:00 GMT
Yeah, there's nothing going to come from this. It's just a PR move to basically have the Academy "save face" by looking into it in order to placate the outcry but nothing that was done is anything that studios don't do on a far grander scale. And there is precedent: Nicholas Chartier was banned from attending the Oscars but he still won for The Hurt Locker for outright telling people not to vote for Avatar. Riseborough didn't do anything like that. Yeah, the best they can get is Frances Fisher specifically naming the competition, but unless she was told on behalf of the film's campaign to do that, there's no foul play here and the most they'd probably do is suspend her membership rights for a year. You can't make networking against the rules.
|
|
|
Post by stephen on Jan 27, 2023 18:14:08 GMT
Yeah, there's nothing going to come from this. It's just a PR move to basically have the Academy "save face" by looking into it in order to placate the outcry but nothing that was done is anything that studios don't do on a far grander scale. And there is precedent: Nicholas Chartier was banned from attending the Oscars but he still won for The Hurt Locker for outright telling people not to vote for Avatar. Riseborough didn't do anything like that. Yeah, the best they can get is Frances Fisher specifically naming the competition, but unless she was told on behalf of the film's campaign to do that, there's no foul play here and the most they'd probably do is suspend her membership rights for a year. You can't make networking against the rules. And this is different than the Bruce Broughton situation because Broughton was a branch governor who exerted Academy resources to do what he did. Frances Fisher just crunched numbers and posted them on Instagram. But it's clear her intent was to take advantage of a vulnerable fifth slot, as she clearly thought Williams was weak and didn't even consider Ana de Armas a threat (which in hindsight, we should've thought her far more secure than she was because despite the film getting ravaged by critics, she was clearly riding on passion).
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
Likes:
|
Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2023 18:27:27 GMT
I'm kind of shocked Frances Fisher even is an Academy member, to be honest.
|
|
|
Post by stephen on Jan 27, 2023 18:33:04 GMT
I'm kind of shocked Frances Fisher even is an Academy member, to be honest. I mean, she's in two Best Picture winners and she was with Clint Eastwood for a while.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
Likes:
|
Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2023 18:33:48 GMT
I'm kind of shocked Frances Fisher even is an Academy member, to be honest. I mean, she's in two Best Picture winners and she was with Clint Eastwood for a while. I was jesting. If Riseborough's nomination were revoked, would it mean only 4 nominees for this category?
|
|
|
Post by stephen on Jan 27, 2023 18:39:24 GMT
I mean, she's in two Best Picture winners and she was with Clint Eastwood for a while. I was jesting. If Riseborough's nomination were revoked, would it mean only 4 nominees for this category? They didn't replace the nominee when "Alone Not Yet Alone" got invalidated.
|
|