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Post by mhynson27 on Dec 9, 2022 6:20:19 GMT
Mike Flanagan is doing a 5 season series, and then 2 movies. oh boy
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Post by Martin Stett on Dec 9, 2022 14:48:20 GMT
The books were good for the first two volumes, and then they jumped off a cliff of quality and turned into masturbatory self-importance. I can't see an adaptation working, because the source is too flawed.
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Post by stephen on Dec 9, 2022 14:52:43 GMT
The first four books are among King's very best. I agree with Martin that the last three books in the main series drop off, but I feel it's largely because King was racing against the clock and the meta nature of the story just didn't quite gel with what had come before it. He largely righted the ship with the final book, though, and Wind Through the Keyhole feels like prime pre-accident Dark Tower.
I hope that if Flanagan does get to finish out the series, he changes the meta nature of it substantially to make it more palatable not just for a viewing audience, but to maybe take things in a direction King might've stuck to had he not been hit by that van.
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Post by Martin Stett on Dec 9, 2022 15:05:30 GMT
The first four books are among King's very best. I agree with Martin that the last three books in the main series drop off, but I feel it's largely because King was racing against the clock and the meta nature of the story just didn't quite gel with what had come before it. He largely righted the ship with the final book, though, and Wind Through the Keyhole feels like prime pre-accident Dark Tower. I hope that if Flanagan does get to finish out the series, he changes the meta nature of it substantially to make it more palatable not just for a viewing audience, but to maybe take things in a direction King might've stuck to had he not been hit by that van. I think the change in quality dropped with The Waste Lands, although the self-importance didn't happen until later. TWL, when ripped down to its core components, seemed to boil down to "the good guys walk a long way." I failed to see much (if any) character development. (Do keep in mind that I haven't read the books in a long time.) And then book 4 was a giant flashback that stopped the narrative cold in its tracks. It isn't a bad story in itself, but there was no need for it taking so long. Once you establish a forward moving narrative, you'd better have a damn good reason and a damn good opportunity to stop that forward momentum to fill in someone's backstory.
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Post by stephen on Dec 9, 2022 15:14:37 GMT
The first four books are among King's very best. I agree with Martin that the last three books in the main series drop off, but I feel it's largely because King was racing against the clock and the meta nature of the story just didn't quite gel with what had come before it. He largely righted the ship with the final book, though, and Wind Through the Keyhole feels like prime pre-accident Dark Tower. I hope that if Flanagan does get to finish out the series, he changes the meta nature of it substantially to make it more palatable not just for a viewing audience, but to maybe take things in a direction King might've stuck to had he not been hit by that van. I think the change in quality dropped with The Waste Lands, although the self-importance didn't happen until later. TWL, when ripped down to its core components, seemed to boil down to "the good guys walk a long way." I failed to see much (if any) character development. (Do keep in mind that I haven't read the books in a long time.) And then book 4 was a giant flashback that stopped the narrative cold in its tracks. It isn't a bad story in itself, but there was no need for it taking so long. Once you establish a forward moving narrative, you'd better have a damn good reason and a damn good opportunity to stop that forward momentum to fill in someone's backstory. The Waste Lands is my favourite book in the franchise, along with Wizard and Glass, so we absolutely can't agree on that. I know Glen Mazzara's pitch for his aborted Amazon adaptation was going to start the series with Wizard and Glass, and that the iconic line "The man in black fled across the desert, and the gunslinger followed" was actually going to be Roland pursuing Walter as a teenager, with Cuthbert and Alain at his side, and they wind up in Mejis. I think it's a great way to introduce the elements of Roland's youth without, as you say, stopping the narrative cold.
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