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Post by pacinoyes on Dec 9, 2022 16:44:18 GMT
I'm happy for her and glad she's home but not as happy as the 6 total WNBA fans in America ...... j / k I like pro hockey ffs  |
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Post by Brother Fease on Dec 9, 2022 16:58:04 GMT
Bout was sentenced to 25 years in prison. This was back in 2010. Manson was put in prison for life. Basically Bout was in prison for half his original sentence. Your comparison doesn’t hold water. No idea what that means. Bout was only sentenced to 25 years in prison. You do understand that U.S was going to release him in 10 years? So I don't see your argument. |
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Post by Brother Fease on Dec 9, 2022 17:03:01 GMT
I'm happy for her and glad she's home but not as happy as the 6 total WNBA fans in America ...... j / k I like pro hockey ffs I actually agree with you here. Shocker, I know. This is probably the most attention the WNBA has had since their inception in 1997. I just hope in the future we get more of our "boys home". |
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Post by Joaquim on Dec 13, 2022 1:37:29 GMT
Since being released Bout has gone a media victory tour, volunteered to fight in Ukraine while asking why they didn’t invade earlier, and joined the ultra nationalist party, positioning himself for a Duma seat
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Post by SZilla on Dec 13, 2022 1:50:09 GMT
Since being released Bout has gone a media victory tour, volunteered to fight in Ukraine while asking why they didn’t invade earlier, and joined the ultra nationalist party, positioning himself for a Duma seat Don't worry, he's not dangerous anymore. |
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Post by quetee on Dec 13, 2022 15:23:02 GMT
Since being released Bout has gone a media victory tour, volunteered to fight in Ukraine while asking why they didn’t invade earlier, and joined the ultra nationalist party, positioning himself for a Duma seat ok so he pushed the timeline up 6 years. |
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Post by Brother Fease on Dec 13, 2022 22:02:20 GMT
Since being released Bout has gone a media victory tour, volunteered to fight in Ukraine while asking why they didn’t invade earlier, and joined the ultra nationalist party, positioning himself for a Duma seat Don't worry, he's not dangerous anymore. So do you believe he would have been less dangerous in 6 years? |
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Post by Joaquim on Dec 13, 2022 22:19:40 GMT
Those 6 years we just gave him for his burgeoning political career are going to compound greatly
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Post by quetee on Dec 13, 2022 23:39:27 GMT
Don't worry, he's not dangerous anymore. So do you believe he would have been less dangerous in 6 years? hell to the no. That's why this fake outrage is stupid. |
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Post by SZilla on Dec 14, 2022 0:03:15 GMT
Don't worry, he's not dangerous anymore. So do you believe he would have been less dangerous in 6 years? No, but would I have preferred another six years of him behind bars and not as a danger to others? Absolutely. |
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Post by Brother Fease on Dec 14, 2022 0:45:00 GMT
So do you believe he would have been less dangerous in 6 years? No, but would I have preferred another six years of him behind bars and not as a danger to others? Absolutely. So again, I don't really see the problem. The U.S was going to release him anyway. You guys act like he was sentenced to life in prison. It was an expendable trade. 6 for a 9. She was wrongly imprisoned. Lets face it: He already served most of his sentenced. We also have to understand, there's no "good foreign thugs". |
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Post by quetee on Dec 14, 2022 3:09:54 GMT
No, but would I have preferred another six years of him behind bars and not as a danger to others? Absolutely. So again, I don't really see the problem. The U.S was going to release him anyway. You guys act like he was sentenced to life in prison. It was an expendable trade. 6 for a 9. She was wrongly imprisoned. Lets face it: He already served most of his sentenced. We also have to understand, there's no "good foreign thugs". Seriously, it's not like he would have turned over a new leaf and became Mother Teresa in that time. Let's face it, had we been talking about Tom Brady, people would give zero F's. |
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Post by SZilla on Dec 14, 2022 4:17:11 GMT
So again, I don't really see the problem. The U.S was going to release him anyway. You guys act like he was sentenced to life in prison. It was an expendable trade. 6 for a 9. She was wrongly imprisoned. Lets face it: He already served most of his sentenced. We also have to understand, there's no "good foreign thugs". Seriously, it's not like he would have turned over a new leaf and became Mother Teresa in that time. Let's face it, had we been talking about Tom Brady, people would give zero F's. I understand why you'd feel that way, but I'd feel the exact same way as I do now whether it was Tom Brady or Brittney Griner. I'm happy she's home, but I'm also upset that a scumbag like Viktor Bout is out early and having a victory tour in Russia and a potential political run, where he can push dangerous warmongering policies. |
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Post by quetee on Dec 14, 2022 4:26:08 GMT
Seriously, it's not like he would have turned over a new leaf and became Mother Teresa in that time. Let's face it, had we been talking about Tom Brady, people would give zero F's. I understand why you'd feel that way, but I'd feel the exact same way as I do now whether it was Tom Brady or Brittney Griner. I'm happy she's home, but I'm also upset that a scumbag like Viktor Bout is out early and having a victory tour in Russia and a potential political run, where he can push dangerous warmongering policies. Right but still he would have done same thing in 6 years. What about the Taliban that were freed. Are we checking up on them? |
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Post by hugobolso on Dec 14, 2022 17:50:45 GMT
I understand why you'd feel that way, but I'd feel the exact same way as I do now whether it was Tom Brady or Brittney Griner. I'm happy she's home, but I'm also upset that a scumbag like Viktor Bout is out early and having a victory tour in Russia and a potential political run, where he can push dangerous warmongering policies. Right but still he would have done same thing in 6 years. What about the Taliban that were freed. Are we checking up on them? First of all, he has at least 11 years more in prison. Not six.- Seccond: according to wiki "...Bout gained the nicknames the "Merchant of Death" and "Sanctions Buster"..." third: Future Russian Secretary of State, is already a Russian Hero.- Well done Biden  |
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Post by Brother Fease on Dec 15, 2022 0:41:02 GMT
Right but still he would have done same thing in 6 years. What about the Taliban that were freed. Are we checking up on them? First of all, he has at least 11 years more in prison. Not six.-Seccond: according to wiki "...Bout gained the nicknames the "Merchant of Death" and "Sanctions Buster"..." third: Future Russian Secretary of State, is already a Russian Hero.- Well done Biden Where are you getting that information?
I don't see the issue. Yes, his nickname was "Merchant of Death", but that doesn't mean the U.S sentenced him to life in prison. He already served most of his sentence.
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Post by Brother Fease on Dec 15, 2022 0:44:10 GMT
Seriously, it's not like he would have turned over a new leaf and became Mother Teresa in that time. Let's face it, had we been talking about Tom Brady, people would give zero F's. I understand why you'd feel that way, but I'd feel the exact same way as I do now whether it was Tom Brady or Brittney Griner. I'm happy she's home, but I'm also upset that a scumbag like Viktor Bout is out early and having a victory tour in Russia and a potential political run, where he can push dangerous warmongering policies. He would have done this anyway in August of 2029. The reality here is that the WH had the opportunity to get a falsely imprisoned person out of jail and decided to go for it.
You seem to be think there was a little dangerous thug that would have gotten Griner out.
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Post by quetee on Dec 15, 2022 4:53:39 GMT
I understand why you'd feel that way, but I'd feel the exact same way as I do now whether it was Tom Brady or Brittney Griner. I'm happy she's home, but I'm also upset that a scumbag like Viktor Bout is out early and having a victory tour in Russia and a potential political run, where he can push dangerous warmongering policies. He would have done this anyway in August of 2029. The reality here is that the WH had the opportunity to get a falsely imprisoned person out of jail and decided to go for it.
You seem to be think there was a little dangerous thug that would have gotten Griner out.
I stand by what I said. When Biden won Putin wasn't feeling it. They been plotting for past few years. We will hear that they targeted her because they knew she had it. There is no way in hell that was first time she had something like that on her. They gave her a pass. |
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Post by hugobolso on Dec 16, 2022 15:56:13 GMT
I understand why you'd feel that way, but I'd feel the exact same way as I do now whether it was Tom Brady or Brittney Griner. I'm happy she's home, but I'm also upset that a scumbag like Viktor Bout is out early and having a victory tour in Russia and a potential political run, where he can push dangerous warmongering policies. He would have done this anyway in August of 2029. The reality here is that the WH had the opportunity to get a falsely imprisoned person out of jail and decided to go for it.
You seem to be think there was a little dangerous thug that would have gotten Griner out.
I don't know whats your source of his would be realese in 2029. Bout was arrested in Thailand in 2008. He was extradited in 2010 and was sentenced in 2011. If we consider the arrest as part of the condemn, was sentenced for 25 years. These would end with luck in 2033.- |
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Post by quetee on Dec 16, 2022 16:11:23 GMT
He would have done this anyway in August of 2029. The reality here is that the WH had the opportunity to get a falsely imprisoned person out of jail and decided to go for it.
You seem to be think there was a little dangerous thug that would have gotten Griner out.
I don't know whats your source of his would be realese in 2029. Bout was arrested in Thailand in 2008. He was extradited in 2010 and was sentenced in 2011. If we consider the arrest as part of the condemn, was sentenced for 25 years. These would end with luck in 2033.- It was on the official prisoner's website. That was public information. |
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Post by hugobolso on Dec 16, 2022 16:42:44 GMT
I don't know whats your source of his would be realese in 2029. Bout was arrested in Thailand in 2008. He was extradited in 2010 and was sentenced in 2011. If we consider the arrest as part of the condemn, was sentenced for 25 years. These would end with luck in 2033.- It was on the official prisoner's website. That was public information. The answer is pretty obvious, they've already reduce the sentence, before the exchange, why I have no idea.- But still exchange a war arms dealers for a Z Celebrity has no sense.- It's a win win for Putin.- |
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Post by quetee on Dec 16, 2022 17:59:53 GMT
It was on the official prisoner's website. That was public information. The answer is pretty obvious, they've already reduce the sentence, before the exchange, why I have no idea.- But still exchange a war arms dealers for a Z Celebrity has no sense.- It's a win win for Putin.- No.... It said 2029. And like we have said...it just pushed up the timeline. So... Oh and by the way, she't not Z list in Russia. But that's for confirming that a black lesbian "Z" list in America is not important. |
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Post by SZilla on Dec 16, 2022 18:12:07 GMT
I understand why you'd feel that way, but I'd feel the exact same way as I do now whether it was Tom Brady or Brittney Griner. I'm happy she's home, but I'm also upset that a scumbag like Viktor Bout is out early and having a victory tour in Russia and a potential political run, where he can push dangerous warmongering policies. He would have done this anyway in August of 2029. The reality here is that the WH had the opportunity to get a falsely imprisoned person out of jail and decided to go for it.
You seem to be think there was a little dangerous thug that would have gotten Griner out.
You've changed the conversation from "he's not dangerous anymore" to "he would have done this anyway." I don't think he would've settled down and been peaceful whether he'd been released at the end of this decade or not (although for a while, you did), but I do think his early release will (and has) emboldened him - making him out to be this massive national hero and like they got one over on the US. My one complaint was that I wish the United States aka the biggest superpower in the world could've negotiated better. |
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Post by quetee on Dec 16, 2022 18:17:53 GMT
He would have done this anyway in August of 2029. The reality here is that the WH had the opportunity to get a falsely imprisoned person out of jail and decided to go for it.
You seem to be think there was a little dangerous thug that would have gotten Griner out.
You've changed the conversation from "he's not dangerous anymore" to "he would have done this anyway." I don't think he would've settled down and been peaceful whether he'd been released at the end of this decade or not (although for a while, you did), but I do think his early release will (and has) emboldened him - making him out to be this massive national hero and like they got one over on the US. My one complaint was that I wish the United States aka the biggest superpower in the world could've negotiated better. What would have been better? |
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Post by Joaquim on Dec 16, 2022 23:08:33 GMT
Bout would not be any more or less dangerous if he was released 6 years from now
Bout will be more dangerous in 6 years because he was released now and got a 6 year head start on his new career in Russian politics
There are 2 versions of 2028 Bout. One that just got released from prison, one that’s been out of prison for 6 years and built a career in Russian politics. Which one sounds more dangerous?
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