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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2022 13:04:33 GMT
By the 4 major precursors, I of course mean BAFTA, BFCA, HFPA, and SAG. So, let's compile a list of all of the performances that managed nominations at all 4 of those awards bodies, but were snubbed by Oscar.
I've got, chronologically (and then alphabetically)...
Tilda Swinton, We Need to Talk About Kevin Marion Cotillard, Rust & Bone Daniel Brühl, Rush Tom Hanks, Captain Phillips Emma Thompson, Saving Mr. Banks Jake Gyllenhaal, Nightcrawler Amy Adams, Arrival Timothée Chalamet, Beautiful Boy Caitríona Balfe, Belfast Lady Gaga, House of Gucci Viola Davis, The Woman King
Please let me know if I'm missing any...
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Post by mhynson27 on Nov 11, 2022 13:06:09 GMT
Hanks, Gyllenhaal and Adams
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Post by sirjeremy on Nov 11, 2022 13:18:11 GMT
I don't know if this counts as he got in anyway for a different film, but Leonardo DiCaprio scored at those four awards groups for The Departed.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2022 13:24:55 GMT
I don't know if this counts as he got in anyway for a different film, but Leonardo DiCaprio scored at those four awards groups for The Departed.There was also category confusion - he was ran by the studio as Supporting (lol) - that's where SAG placed him.
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Post by thomasjerome on Nov 11, 2022 13:39:40 GMT
Hugh Grant - "Florence Foster Jenkins"
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2022 14:08:36 GMT
Hugh Grant - "Florence Foster Jenkins" He missed BFCA - he was nominated for "Best Actor in a Comedy", but not their overall Best Actor (or Supporting Actor) category. Another example of category confusion likely costing an actor a nomination, at any rate.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2022 16:33:23 GMT
Hanks, Gyllenhaal and Adams For me, Cotillard's is the greatest performance of the bunch (though Hanks would be my second choice). So glad the Academy recognized her for Two Days, One Night.
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Post by stephen on Nov 11, 2022 16:34:48 GMT
God, I am still seething about some of these (in particular Hanks, GYLLENHAAL, Adams, Balfe and Gaga).
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2022 16:44:19 GMT
God, I am still seething about some of these (in particular Hanks, GYLLENHAAL, Adams, Balfe and Gaga). Hanks, Balfe, and Gaga were truly shocking snubs. Thompson, too. The others less so IIRC.
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Post by JangoB on Nov 11, 2022 16:45:17 GMT
Always feels insanely weird when this happens.
Anyway, let's rank'em!
1. Emma Thompson, Saving Mr. Banks 2. Lady Gaga, House of Gucci 3. Marion Cotillard, Rust & Bone 4. Daniel Brühl, Rush 5. Tom Hanks, Captain Phillips 6. Amy Adams, Arrival 7. Tilda Swinton, We Need to Talk About Kevin 8. Jake Gyllenhaal, Nightcrawler 9. Timothée Chalamet, Beautiful Boy 10. Caitríona Balfe, Belfast
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Post by JangoB on Nov 11, 2022 16:47:22 GMT
God, I am still seething about some of these (in particular Hanks, GYLLENHAAL, Adams, Balfe and Gaga). Hanks, Balfe, and Gaga were truly shocking snubs. Thompson, too. The others less so IIRC. Adams should be among the big shockers too with her being in a hit BP nominee which received all sorts of nominations.
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Post by stephen on Nov 11, 2022 16:50:33 GMT
God, I am still seething about some of these (in particular Hanks, GYLLENHAAL, Adams, Balfe and Gaga). Hanks, Balfe, and Gaga were truly shocking snubs. Thompson, too. The others less so IIRC. If I had to rank these by shock factor: 1. Tom Hanks (no explanation required) 2. Amy Adams (this one was definitely a shocker; even as someone predicting Ruth Negga to get in, I didn't think it would be at Adams's expense) 3. Caitriona Balfe (genuinely still can't believe this one, and in lieu of Dench no less! I rate her over Gaga here because they clearly loved Belfast more) 4. Lady Gaga (Best Actress 2021 is still my favourite awards race in my lifetime, but damn, I wish she'd gotten in over all the others and it was a surprise that she missed) 5. Jake Gyllenhaal (there were some doubters as Cooper surged at the end, but the film overall underperformed in the end) 6. Emma Thompson (I don't remember there being that much surprise that she missed; her film had the least amount of passion in the face of late surges from Dench and Adams) 7. Tilda Swinton (I mean, all the others below I was predicting to either miss or wasn't shocked in the least, and they're interchangeable at this point) 8. Marion Cotillard 9. Timothee Chalamet 10. Daniel Bruhl
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Post by stephen on Nov 11, 2022 16:51:27 GMT
Ranking by performance:
1. Gyllenhaal 2. Hanks 3. Gaga 4. Balfe 5. Adams 6. Swinton 7. Cotillard 8. Bruhl 9. Thompson 10. ChaLOLmet (the only one here whose snub at the end was an utter delight to me)
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2022 16:53:34 GMT
Hanks, Balfe, and Gaga were truly shocking snubs. Thompson, too. The others less so IIRC. 6. Emma Thompson (I don't remember there being that much surprise that she missed; her film had the least amount of passion in the face of late surges from Dench and Adams) Right, to me, it was Streep muscling her way in for August: Osage County over her that was so surprising. *Sigh* Thompson was far more deserving IMO.
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Post by stephen on Nov 11, 2022 17:08:05 GMT
6. Emma Thompson (I don't remember there being that much surprise that she missed; her film had the least amount of passion in the face of late surges from Dench and Adams) Right, to me, it was Streep muscling her way in for August: Osage County over her that was so surprising. *Sigh* Thompson was far more deserving IMO. I mean, that's just an evergreen statement as far as Streep was concerned. But I wasn't surprised; the buzz on August: Osage County was strong and before Blanchett's film dropped, people were seriously talking up a fourth Oscar for her based on the strength of the stage pedigree. Any time she had a film in contention, you always had to pencil her in for a spot that she was taking from someone much more deserving. It was more of a shock when she would miss. It was Dench who was the latecomer that year. I remember some moderate debate on category placement for Adams but in the wake of Silver Linings, it was pretty much figured that O. Russell would double down on getting nods in all four acting categories. But Philomena had an initially tepid response when it premiered and a lot of people cast it aside, but Weinstein + Dench should never have been underestimated, and unfortunately it was Thompson who was vulnerable.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2022 19:16:59 GMT
Always feels insanely weird when this happens. Right? It seemed unthinkable until Tilda Swinton broke the mold in 2011... Sorry, Tilda.
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Post by hugobolso on Nov 13, 2022 11:34:09 GMT
By the 4 major precursors, I of course mean BAFTA, BFCA, HFPA, and SAG. So, let's compile a list of all of the performances that managed nominations at all 4 of those awards bodies, but were snubbed by Oscar. I've got, chronologically (and then alphabetically)... Tilda Swinton, We Need to Talk About Kevin
Marion Cotillard, Rust & Bone
Daniel Brühl, Rush
Tom Hanks, Captain Phillips
Emma Thompson, Saving Mr. BanksJake Gyllenhaal, Nightcrawler
Amy Adams, Arrival
Timothée Chalamet, Beautiful Boy
Caitríona Balfe, Belfast
Lady Gaga, House of GucciPlease let me know if I'm missing any... I haven't seen many of these. And other dont remember. I think there are other than just artistic reasons. I haven't seen Leto because Im tired of the Aids films. But Bruhl was much better than the other nominees. Why he wasnt. Because his studio hadnt camaign for him. Not only but also he was the one who should be snub in order to give Letos win legitimacy. Gaga I guess was a kind of Bruhl plus she is hated by the Academy. Finally Chastain won for lifetime TV films with awful critics and poor box office. That implies the decadence of Academy Awards. Emma Thompson and probably Catriona Balfe is more because Meryl Streep and Judi Dench had not friends in campaign for Oscar noms. Doesnt matter if both received in their life over 10 oscar noms. Tom Hank's for a certain time was nominated for everything he made. And the Academy gets tired about him. Not only but also he gets tires of being nominee and campaigned more for his co star. Cotillard I guess was in a obscure foreign language film. More she received precursors for lack of competitors. Unless you are Penelope Cruz and directed by Pedro Almodovar. The performance and film should be excellent. Swinton was in a Lynne Ramsay film that are obscure by the Academy. Chamalet another obscure film plus too young for Academy taste and Gyllenhaal he isnt beloved by the Academy
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Post by speeders on Nov 13, 2022 15:59:29 GMT
Ranking the performances...
Marion Cotillard, Rust & Bone Tilda Swinton, We Need to Talk About Kevin Jake Gyllenhaal, Nightcrawler Amy Adams, Arrival Tom Hanks, Captain Phillips Lady Gaga, House of Gucci Emma Thompson, Saving Mr. Banks Daniel Brühl, Rush Caitríona Balfe, Belfast Timothée Chalamet, Beautiful Boy
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2023 4:48:37 GMT
Here's your list of performances to receive all 4 for 2022...
Austin Butler Colin Farrell Brendan Fraser Bill Nighy
Cate Blanchett Viola Davis Michelle Yeoh
Brendan Gleeson Barry Keoghan Ke Huy Quan
Angela Bassett Kerry Condon Jamie Lee Curtis
Which of these do you feel is most vulnerable?
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Post by mikediastavrone96 on Jan 20, 2023 5:46:57 GMT
Here's your list of performances to receive all 4 for 2022... Austin Butler Colin Farrell Brendan Fraser Bill Nighy Cate Blanchett Viola Davis Michelle Yeoh Brendan Gleeson Barry Keoghan Ke Huy Quan Angela Bassett Kerry Condon Jamie Lee Curtis Which of these do you feel is most vulnerable? I've felt the entire time like Davis is vulnerable. The rest all just seem to be in stronger films or in the case of Nighy to have more passion behind them. Prince-Bythewood's Director nomination at BAFTA gives me pause in outright saying Davis will be snubbed, but it wouldn't surprise me at all if she gets bumped out.
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Post by stabcaesar on Jan 20, 2023 5:48:13 GMT
Here's your list of performances to receive all 4 for 2022... Austin Butler Colin Farrell Brendan Fraser Bill Nighy Cate Blanchett Viola Davis Michelle Yeoh Brendan Gleeson Barry Keoghan Ke Huy Quan Angela Bassett Kerry Condon Jamie Lee Curtis Which of these do you feel is most vulnerable? None of them. I say they are all in.
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Post by mhynson27 on Jan 20, 2023 5:58:03 GMT
Here's your list of performances to receive all 4 for 2022... Austin Butler Colin Farrell Brendan Fraser Bill Nighy Cate Blanchett Viola Davis Michelle Yeoh Brendan Gleeson Barry Keoghan Ke Huy Quan Angela Bassett Kerry Condon Jamie Lee Curtis Which of these do you feel is most vulnerable? Davis
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Post by Allenism on Jan 20, 2023 15:27:38 GMT
Ranking the ones I've seen:
Marion Cotillard, Rust & Bone (galvanizing, even for Cotillard) Tilda Swinton, We Need to Talk About Kevin (brilliantly pitched portrayal of a morally dubious yet sympathetic character) Tom Hanks, Captain Phillips (relaxed, lived-in performance with moments of genuine pathos)
Amy Adams, Arrival (lovely, soulful work from a generally middling performer)
Jake Gyllenhaal, Nightcrawler (try-hard, Oscar-baity performance)
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Post by filmnoir on Jan 20, 2023 15:48:54 GMT
Here's your list of performances to receive all 4 for 2022... Austin Butler Colin Farrell Brendan Fraser Bill Nighy Cate Blanchett Viola Davis Michelle Yeoh Brendan Gleeson Barry Keoghan Ke Huy Quan Angela Bassett Kerry Condon Jamie Lee Curtis Which of these do you feel is most vulnerable? I've felt the entire time like Davis is vulnerable. The rest all just seem to be in stronger films or in the case of Nighy to have more passion behind them. Prince-Bythewood's Director nomination at BAFTA gives me pause in outright saying Davis will be snubbed, but it wouldn't surprise me at all if she gets bumped out. If anyone gets snubbed in Actress, Ana de armas is in a more vulnerable position. Her film isn't very good and she likely will be the sole nominee.
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Post by mikediastavrone96 on Jan 20, 2023 15:59:27 GMT
I've felt the entire time like Davis is vulnerable. The rest all just seem to be in stronger films or in the case of Nighy to have more passion behind them. Prince-Bythewood's Director nomination at BAFTA gives me pause in outright saying Davis will be snubbed, but it wouldn't surprise me at all if she gets bumped out. If anyone gets snubbed in Actress, Ana de armas is in a more vulnerable position. Her film isn't very good and she likely will be the sole nominee. She didn't hit all 4 precursors so that's why I didn't mention her.
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