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Post by notacrook on May 9, 2017 19:32:18 GMT
She's the one person in the main cast who seems to get frequently criticised for her performance in the show (though I think some of it may be because Dany is quite a divisive character). I'd say that she's far from the best in the show, but I do think that she's generally very solid as Daenerys, and occasionally reaches real greatness - mostly when she's speaking a made-up language. Her performance in S1 and S3 especially were excellent. I might even say she was the MVP of S1.
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on May 9, 2017 19:47:18 GMT
Liked her for the first couple seasons, then I started to hate her so it evens out to meh
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Post by stephen on May 9, 2017 20:00:09 GMT
She was very good in Season 1 at playing the meek, bereft-of-all-authority Daenerys . . . but once she attains her dragons and sets out to be a conqueror, her characterization and performance tanked really hard. Clarke is an incredibly limited actress as it is, but she cannot convincingly project any amount of authority or gravitas, which for a messianic monarch is kind of an essential trait to have. She comes off as play-acting when she's squaring off against the likes of Iain Glen, Peter Dinklage and Nathalie Emmanuel. In fact, Emmanuel would've been a perfect Daenerys, as she embodies all of those traits and has a fine screen presence. Yeah, she doesn't look the part, but I kind of like the idea of maybe changing the books' Valyrian looks (white hair, purple eyes, etc.) to something a bit more ethnically believable, especially as Essos has been portrayed as something of a melange of Mediterranean/Middle East.
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Post by DeepArcher on May 9, 2017 21:14:58 GMT
She's the weak link of the main cast for sure. I honestly don't even care for her performance in season one, and it's all been downhill from there. She has the most unbelievable and exaggerated delivery, totally lacks nonverbal subtlety, and, as stephen said, is incredibly limited in her range. It certainly doesn't work in her favor that the character has been poorly-written since the early seasons, but she's still not salvaging anything remarkable from the weak material.
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Post by notacrook on May 9, 2017 21:56:07 GMT
She's the weak link of the main cast for sure. I honestly don't even care for her performance in season one, and it's all been downhill from there. She has the most unbelievable and exaggerated delivery, totally lacks nonverbal subtlety, and, as stephen said, is incredibly limited in her range. It certainly doesn't work in her favor that the character has been poorly-written since the early seasons, but she's still not salvaging anything remarkable from the weak material. I'd argue that's Kit Harington, though he was improved season to season whereas Clarke has not. I'd say they're probably the bottom two, though, which is a little frustrating considering they're arguably the two biggest characters on the show. |
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Post by DeepArcher on May 9, 2017 22:06:56 GMT
She's the weak link of the main cast for sure. I honestly don't even care for her performance in season one, and it's all been downhill from there. She has the most unbelievable and exaggerated delivery, totally lacks nonverbal subtlety, and, as stephen said, is incredibly limited in her range. It certainly doesn't work in her favor that the character has been poorly-written since the early seasons, but she's still not salvaging anything remarkable from the weak material. I'd argue that's Kit Harington, though he was improved season to season whereas Clarke has not. I'd say they're probably the bottom two, though, which is a little frustrating considering they're arguably the two biggest characters on the show. Yeah, Kit has grown as an actor than anyone else on the show, with the exception of Sophie Turner. I didn't care for him much early on, but he's really come into his own the last two seasons and has made Jon one of the most entertaining characters to watch. |
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Post by notacrook on May 9, 2017 22:18:18 GMT
I'd argue that's Kit Harington, though he was improved season to season whereas Clarke has not. I'd say they're probably the bottom two, though, which is a little frustrating considering they're arguably the two biggest characters on the show. Yeah, Kit has grown as an actor than anyone else on the show, with the exception of Sophie Turner. I didn't care for him much early on, but he's really come into his own the last two seasons and has made Jon one of the most entertaining characters to watch. I've always liked Sophie Turner, it's just that Sansa used to be a horrible character to watch. Now she's great as a character and as a performer. |
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Post by finniussnrub on May 10, 2017 1:26:59 GMT
She was very good in Season 1 at playing the meek, bereft-of-all-authority Daenerys . . . but once she attains her dragons and sets out to be a conqueror, her characterization and performance tanked really hard. Clarke is an incredibly limited actress as it is, but she cannot convincingly project any amount of authority or gravitas, which for a messianic monarch is kind of an essential trait to have. She comes off as play-acting when she's squaring off against the likes of Iain Glen, Peter Dinklage and Nathalie Emmanuel. In fact, Emmanuel would've been a perfect Daenerys, as she embodies all of those traits and has a fine screen presence. Yeah, she doesn't look the part, but I kind of like the idea of maybe changing the books' Valyrian looks (white hair, purple eyes, etc.) to something a bit more ethnically believable, especially as Essos has been portrayed as something of a melange of Mediterranean/Middle East. Is there some other performance by Emmanuel where she is overtly charismatic or commanding? As she's only been meek in the show, though that is at least fitting to her character. Also that ethnicity change wouldn't really work due to Jon Snow. |
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Post by stephen on May 10, 2017 1:40:56 GMT
She was very good in Season 1 at playing the meek, bereft-of-all-authority Daenerys . . . but once she attains her dragons and sets out to be a conqueror, her characterization and performance tanked really hard. Clarke is an incredibly limited actress as it is, but she cannot convincingly project any amount of authority or gravitas, which for a messianic monarch is kind of an essential trait to have. She comes off as play-acting when she's squaring off against the likes of Iain Glen, Peter Dinklage and Nathalie Emmanuel. In fact, Emmanuel would've been a perfect Daenerys, as she embodies all of those traits and has a fine screen presence. Yeah, she doesn't look the part, but I kind of like the idea of maybe changing the books' Valyrian looks (white hair, purple eyes, etc.) to something a bit more ethnically believable, especially as Essos has been portrayed as something of a melange of Mediterranean/Middle East. Is there some other performance by Emmanuel where she is overtly charismatic or commanding? As she's only been meek in the show, though that is at least fitting to her character. Also that ethnicity change wouldn't really work due to Jon Snow. Emmanuel has shown forcefulness of character in her portrayal of Missandei post-emancipation, and there is an instant sense of likability and magnetism to her. Not just that, but there is a regality to her presence; she cuts a very noble stance, something that Clarke fails to achieve. I can see where the ethnicity change would be problematic in the Jon Snow instance, but if you subscribed to the Ned/Ashara theory that was bandied about as well (the Daynes have Valyrian features, despite not being a Valyrian house), it will still make sense. It would just necessitate a recasting of Jon Snow. |
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Post by finniussnrub on May 10, 2017 1:57:10 GMT
Is there some other performance by Emmanuel where she is overtly charismatic or commanding? As she's only been meek in the show, though that is at least fitting to her character. Also that ethnicity change wouldn't really work due to Jon Snow. Emmanuel has shown forcefulness of character in her portrayal of Missandei post-emancipation, and there is an instant sense of likability and magnetism to her. Not just that, but there is a regality to her presence; she cuts a very noble stance, something that Clarke fails to achieve. I can see where the ethnicity change would be problematic in the Jon Snow instance, but if you subscribed to the Ned/Ashara theory that was bandied about as well (the Daynes have Valyrian features, despite not being a Valyrian house), it will still make sense. It would just necessitate a recasting of Jon Snow. Don't quite see that myself in Emmanuel but I agree that it certainly is not evident in Clarke's performance. It would still be problematic for the idea of the mystery. If only the Targaryens and Jon Snow were dark skinned in season 1, you probably would not have to think twice about who he's related to. In addition it would be harder to believe that Robert would be tricked by Ned's "son" who happens to have the same skin color as his sworn enemies. |
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Post by stephen on May 10, 2017 2:02:51 GMT
Emmanuel has shown forcefulness of character in her portrayal of Missandei post-emancipation, and there is an instant sense of likability and magnetism to her. Not just that, but there is a regality to her presence; she cuts a very noble stance, something that Clarke fails to achieve. I can see where the ethnicity change would be problematic in the Jon Snow instance, but if you subscribed to the Ned/Ashara theory that was bandied about as well (the Daynes have Valyrian features, despite not being a Valyrian house), it will still make sense. It would just necessitate a recasting of Jon Snow. Don't quite see that myself in Emmanuel but I agree that it certainly is not evident in Clarke's performance. It would still be problematic for the idea of the mystery. If only the Targaryens and Jon Snow were dark skinned in season 1, you probably would not have to think twice about who he's related to. In addition it would be harder to believe that Robert would be tricked by Ned's "son" who happens to have the same skin color as his sworn enemies. To be fair, Robert wasn't exactly the sharpest tool in the shed, and him not recognizing heritage on sight is one of the main impetuses of the plot of the series. And the "mystery" was pretty much an open secret/very good guess long before the reveal. But I suppose that even so, I would be more accepting of the writers having to be more inventive in their explanations for certain characters' ethnicities being different if it meant the characters in question were well-acted. But that's me. |
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Post by Johnny_Hellzapoppin on May 10, 2017 14:17:31 GMT
Inconsistent, but the bad outweighs the good, so I'm giving her a bad vote.
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Post by harlequinade on May 12, 2017 6:16:08 GMT
Meh. She is usually so-so but has some great moments - especially when she is speaking in other language - however the scene where she banishes Jorah is some of the worst acting ever on this show
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Post by notacrook on May 12, 2017 7:16:52 GMT
Meh. She is usually so-so but has some great moments - especially when she is speaking in other language - however the scene where she banishes Jorah is some of the worst acting ever on this show I actually quite liked that scene, though she could have done more with it. A weak scene for me that stood out was when she was saying goodbye to Jorah last season. It felt so forced, and I didn't really believe she was crying at all. |
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Post by harlequinade on May 18, 2017 9:04:28 GMT
Meh. She is usually so-so but has some great moments - especially when she is speaking in other language - however the scene where she banishes Jorah is some of the worst acting ever on this show I actually quite liked that scene, though she could have done more with it. A weak scene for me that stood out was when she was saying goodbye to Jorah last season. It felt so forced, and I didn't really believe she was crying at all. That scene was ridiculous on several levels, was it the one where she basically said to him yeah you have incurable disease but go deal with that and come back cause I need you? That show. How mighty have fallen. |
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Post by cheesecake on Jul 15, 2017 2:12:56 GMT
Really liked her in the first season but it's been downhill from there. Probably a combination of character and performance, but I think she's really bad.
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Post by therealcomicman117 on Apr 9, 2018 16:32:32 GMT
I'm split. On the one hand I find her compelling in the role, at the same time there's a sort of fakeness / blandness to the role. Probably doesn't help that she's not very good at playing "authority / power" figures well, especially as the series progresses.
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