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Post by Brother Fease on Sept 14, 2022 21:32:58 GMT
Babylon is an epic period comedy-drama from writer and director Damen Chazelle. This is his fifth outing as a director and seventh as a writer. His previous films Whiplash and La La Land took home multiple Oscars and nabbed a best picture nomination. First Man scored four Oscar nominations and won for Visual Effects. Nothing major. Babylon stars Brad Pitt, Margot Robbie, Tobey Maguire, Jean Smart, Eric Roberts, Olivia Wilde, Spike Jonze and Flea.
What do you guys think of the trailer? Do you think it'll live up to its high hype? Do you see it more like La Land, First Man or an awards flop?
Christie Lemire of the LA Film Critics thought the trailer looked terrible.
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Post by quetee on Sept 15, 2022 0:36:09 GMT
Looks like one of those movies where people will be kind to but will not love enough to win. Looks like a bloated mess.
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Sept 15, 2022 0:57:33 GMT
Tech stuff. Not predicting it for above the line noms (except for maybe Robbie) until it gets killer notices because it looks like a damn mess. Watch it be Chazelle's goose egg.
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Post by Brother Fease on Sept 15, 2022 1:04:34 GMT
Looks like one of those movies where people will be kind to but will not love enough to win. Looks like a bloated mess. Yeah, the trailer looks very awkward in the wrong type of way. Trailers are designed to get your excited. This one did not. The trailers for The Fablemans, Tar, The Banshees of Inisherin and The Greatest Beer Run looked really good. This one looks like a technical player. |
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Post by quetee on Sept 15, 2022 1:13:23 GMT
Looks like one of those movies where people will be kind to but will not love enough to win. Looks like a bloated mess. Yeah, the trailer looks very awkward in the wrong type of way. Trailers are designed to get your excited. This one did not. The trailers for The Fablemans, Tar, The Banshees of Inisherin and The Greatest Beer Run looked really good. This one looks like a technical player. Wouldn't surprise me if Margot misses here. |
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Post by futuretrunks on Sept 15, 2022 1:18:52 GMT
Very hard to say. It's a 3 hour movie, so a 2 minute trailer can't really convey the precision of the filmmaking. And First Man was awesome filmmaking and step up from Whiplash and La La Land, but it also had Josh Singer as a co-writer, so a film with Chazelle as a sole writer gives me some pause. I'll wait and see. I think Chazelle is a better director than screenwriter, though. First Man is basically perfect, in its mode.
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Post by Brother Fease on Sept 15, 2022 1:20:36 GMT
Yeah, the trailer looks very awkward in the wrong type of way. Trailers are designed to get your excited. This one did not. The trailers for The Fablemans, Tar, The Banshees of Inisherin and The Greatest Beer Run looked really good. This one looks like a technical player. Wouldn't surprise me if Margot misses here. Let me first off say, I hope the movie is better than the trailer or at least the 2nd trailer gives off a different vibe.
The technical aspect of the trailer looks good. Everything else I am not digging.
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Post by mhynson27 on Sept 15, 2022 1:53:42 GMT
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Director
Actress
Supporting Actor
Supporting Actress
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Whole bunch of techs
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Post by stabcaesar on Sept 15, 2022 1:58:25 GMT
After that grotesque trailer I am inclined to say maybe just some techs. First Man was well-received and it only scored some techs anyway. I don’t see Babylon faring any better.
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Post by quetee on Sept 15, 2022 2:06:58 GMT
Wouldn't surprise me if Margot misses here. Let me first off say, I hope the movie is better than the trailer or at least the 2nd trailer gives off a different vibe.
The technical aspect of the trailer looks good. Everything else I am not digging.
Pretty much. While watching the trailer, I was like does Margot realize she's supposed to be in the 1920s not 2020. LMAO. I hope I'm wrong but it just seems like a miscalculated performance. |
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Post by dazed on Sept 15, 2022 2:56:14 GMT
people are overreacting way too much to the trailer imo
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Post by dazed on Sept 15, 2022 2:57:11 GMT
picture
director
actress
supporting actor
screenplay
editing
cinematography
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Post by Pittsnogle_Goggins on Sept 15, 2022 3:30:30 GMT
No idea why anyone would start predicting less noms based on the trailer.
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Sept 15, 2022 15:11:10 GMT
people are overreacting way too much to the trailer imo it doesn't look anything like what I was expecting. I was expecting a prestige-y stately Hollywood epic more in the vein of Mank but the trailer makes it look like a satirical stylistic mashup of Luhrmann's Gatsby with Wolf of Wall Street and the hangout vibes of Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, and Chazelle ain't Tarantino or Marty. |
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Post by mhynson27 on Sept 15, 2022 15:32:06 GMT
I just assumed everyone knew what it was going to be like, based on the script that has been floating around.
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Post by pacinoyes on Sept 15, 2022 15:34:32 GMT
It's a tricky thing with trailers - I mean people's only exposure to the film is the trailer - they can't "overreact" to it, they can just feel what they feel about what they saw......although it's true the trailer does not always - or often even reflect the film itself of course....but if anything at the moment people were more overreating to the director, the premise and the cast tbh....
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Post by quetee on Sept 15, 2022 15:34:50 GMT
people are overreacting way too much to the trailer imo it doesn't look anything like what I was expecting. I was expecting a prestige-y stately Hollywood epic more in the vein of Mank but the trailer makes it look like a satirical stylistic mashup of Luhrmann's Gatsby with Wolf of Wall Street and the hangout vibes of Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, and Chazelle ain't Tarantino or Marty.Shhhhh!!!! Don't tell him that. Digging the Pine pic, by the way. I really hope he gets the Jim Jones biopic. Granted Leo is attached to it but I think it fits Pine better. |
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Post by stephen on Sept 15, 2022 15:35:44 GMT
Yeah, I've no idea why anyone would be predicting fewer nominations for it based on that trailer. Whether you think it's anachronistic or not ("Margot Robbie's playing it too modern!"), it's going to be a huge tech contender, Robbie's obviously extremely showy and Pitt's one of the biggest movie stars alive coming off his Oscar win. Chazelle's hit big with the Academy twice already (and even though First Man underperformed, it still bagged one win) and it's got studio muscle behind it and a plum release date.
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Supporting Actor
Original Screenplay
Cinematography
Production Design
Costume Design
Makeup & Hairstyling
Film Editing
Sound
Score (assuming there's an original one)
With Supporting Actress being very much a possibility, and if Calva is that good, maybe even Actor. This will be a nomination juggernaut.
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Post by flasuss on Sept 15, 2022 18:55:17 GMT
Nothing apart from techs. Looks like a complete mess.
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Post by dazed on Sept 15, 2022 19:55:50 GMT
It's a tricky thing with trailers - I mean people's only exposure to the film is the trailer - they can't "overreact" to it, they can just feel what they feel about what they saw......although it's true the trailer does not always - or often even reflect the film itself of course....but if anything at the moment people were more overreating to the director, the premise and the cast tbh.... well i’d rather put more stock into the amount of talent behind a film than what a 2 minute trailer shows (which may be a huge misrepresentation of the movie since studios can mislead the general population with said trailer, which we’ve seen happen countless times), but that’s just me. plus hasn’t the script been out there for some time now? and people that have read the script have dubbed it an awards contender. the script had great reactions to it if i’m not wrong. say what you want, but going from ‘this is a top 3 contender of the year’ to saying it won’t even get a BP nomination all because of a trailer is an overreaction imo. not saying everyone went from point a to point b either, but it seems like it’s definitely happened for some. |
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Post by pacinoyes on Sept 15, 2022 20:15:30 GMT
It's a tricky thing with trailers - I mean people's only exposure to the film is the trailer - they can't "overreact" to it, they can just feel what they feel about what they saw......although it's true the trailer does not always - or often even reflect the film itself of course....but if anything at the moment people were more overreating to the director, the premise and the cast tbh.... (which may be a huge misrepresentation of the movie since studios can mislead the general population with said trailer, which we’ve seen happen countless times), but that’s just me. plus hasn’t the script been out there for some time now? and people that have read the script have dubbed it an awards contender. say what you want, but going from ‘this is a top 3 contender of the year’ to saying it won’t even get a BP nomination all because of a trailer is an overreaction imo. not saying everyone went from point a to point b either, but it seems like it’s definitely happened for some. Oh, I'm not saying it won't be good - I posted on the trailer earlier in the thread - my point was it's a bit annoyingly condescending imo to tell audiences that they can't believe their eyes or they can't draw correalations based on the talent AND that trailer (ie is this material to Chazelle's strengths or is the finished film the exact opposite of his actual strengths ( Tommen_Saperstein made such an astute point iirc). People are inferring and drawing connections they are making from that trailer - which is fair and human - audiences respond to what's presented to them But yes .......movie studios do often purposely mislead or simply botch trailers - that happens all the time....... |
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Post by dazed on Sept 15, 2022 20:38:18 GMT
well i’d rather put more stock into the amount of talent behind a film than what a 2 minute trailer shows (which may be a huge misrepresentation of the movie since studios can mislead the general population with said trailer, which we’ve seen happen countless times), but that’s just me. plus hasn’t the script been out there for some time now? and people that have read the script have dubbed it an awards contender. say what you want, but going from ‘this is a top 3 contender of the year’ to saying it won’t even get a BP nomination all because of a trailer is an overreaction imo. not saying everyone went from point a to point b either, but it seems like it’s definitely happened for some. Oh, I'm not saying it won't be good - I posted on the trailer earlier in the thread - my point was it's a bit annoyingly condescending imo to tell audiences that they can't believe their eyes or they can't draw correalations based on the talent AND that trailer (ie is this material to Chazelle's strengths or is the finished film the exact opposite of his actual strengths ( Tommen_Saperstein made such an astute point iirc). People are inferring and drawing connections they are making from that trailer - which is fair and human - audiences respond to what's presented to them But yes .......movie studios do often purposely mislead or simply botch trailers - that happens all the time....... i’m not saying don’t believe your eyes, i myself thought the trailer was horrible too. it was a bad trailer and i’ve said this. if people want to change their predictions of how well the movie will do awards wise due to a debut trailer, then so be it. i agree, trailers can change the way you think a movie is going to perform awards wise, totally get it. i still think it’s an overreaction to go from thinking it’s a top contender to not being a contender at all (which again, not saying this is the case for everyone in the thread). i think you’re making a mountain out of a molehill out of my annoyingly condescending comment lmao |
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Sept 15, 2022 21:09:17 GMT
in my defense, I didn't know anything about the story beyond the period Hollywood setting. So my assumption that it would be a contender was based on another assumption that it was going to be a type of film that it seemingly is not. Yeah it has a lot of muscle behind it but so did House of Gucci 🤷
we'll see what the reviews say
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Post by The_Cake_of_Roth on Sept 15, 2022 21:31:32 GMT
From what I've heard, the trailer seems to mostly be showing the beginning of the film, and it supposedly goes to darker, more emotional places later on, so take from that what you will...
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Post by JangoB on Sept 15, 2022 21:33:11 GMT
Sure it will. Picture, Actress, all the techs and maybe Director since it's obviously gonna be a big & boisterous piece of filmmaking.
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