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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2022 15:40:58 GMT
Barbie - What I take issue with is your constant barrage of posts calling her the C-word, saying that she's rotting in hell, saying that you hope she died a slow, painful death... I mean my god, how callous can you be?
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Post by Barbie on Sept 9, 2022 16:15:15 GMT
Barbie - What I take issue with is your constant barrage of posts calling her the C-word, saying that she's rotting in hell, saying that you hope she died a slow, painful death... I mean my god, how callous can you be? Would you feel the same way if I said that about Trump or Putin? Or rapists like Weinstein and Epstein? Or is it only callous when it’s about bad people you like and want to put on a pedestal? I love how you completely ignored the context for *why* I would say those things: racism, colonialism, abuse of her disabled cousins, and protecting a rapist of teenage girls Qwhite Liberal of you
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2022 16:23:20 GMT
Barbie - I'm quite indifferent to Queen Elizabeth (although I think you comparing her to Trump, Weinstein, et al and especially Putin is beyond insane) - I think she had admirable qualities but also many qualities to criticize - however, I also realize there is a time, place, and indeed a way to do that. Start a separate thread.
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Post by cherry68 on Sept 9, 2022 16:24:21 GMT
No. Only the children of the king or the children of the first heir to the throne are called Princes.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2022 16:25:17 GMT
No. Only the children of the king or the children of the first heir to the throne are called Princes. No, again you are quite wrong. The children of the Duke of York are called "princes" (Princesses Beatrice and Eugenie), which indeed is what Harry now is.
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Post by hugobolso on Sept 9, 2022 16:28:56 GMT
No. Only the children of the king or the children of the first heir to the throne are called Princes. No, again you are quite wrong. The children of the Duke of York are called "princes", which indeed is what Harry now is. The grandsons and grandaughter of the kings could be called princes, However they need they parent permition. For example Princess Anne never allowed royal titles for their children, even when Peter was the eldest and favorite Queen Elizabeth grandson. So again, this is the hypocresy of Henry and Meghan Markle, they think that they are communers but they want a royal title for their children.-
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Post by Barbie on Sept 9, 2022 16:34:39 GMT
Barbie - I'm quite indifferent to Queen Elizabeth (although I think you comparing her to Trump, Weinstein, et al and especially Putin is beyond insane) - I think she had admirable qualities but also many qualities to criticize - however, I also realize there is a time, place, and indeed a way to do that. Start a separate thread. Yeah this right here proves my point. You aren’t objective at all. Bc objectively based on FACTS, Elizabeth is every bit as bad as all those people. It’s undeniable. But you want to bury your liberal head, specifically WHITE LIBERAL, head in the sand and pretend she had “admirable qualities”. If she were a Republican or a regular person, you wouldn’t say any of this. You’re okay with white supremacy as long as it’s someone you like
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2022 16:38:24 GMT
I'm a white supremacist now? There is absolutely no point engaging with you.
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Post by Barbie on Sept 9, 2022 16:39:16 GMT
Barbie - I'm quite indifferent to Queen Elizabeth (although I think you comparing her to Trump, Weinstein, et al and especially Putin is beyond insane) - I think she had admirable qualities but also many qualities to criticize - however, I also realize there is a time, place, and indeed a way to do that. Start a separate thread. “there is a time, place” this is exactly what conservatives say whenever there’s a mass shooting and people want to talk about gun control It’s laughable how you and Ryan for that matter think you’re morally superior to conservatives. You’re okay with racism, colonialism, and white supremacy as long as it’s quiet and done with “class” like Elizabeth. Your objection to Trump is that his racism is open and ugly. That’s it
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Post by Barbie on Sept 9, 2022 16:41:57 GMT
I'm a white supremacist now? There is absolutely no point engaging with you. You haven’t engaged with me at all. Just whining and spewing liberal garbage. I’ve given you facts and evidence, and you, like a conservative, ignored it and buried your head in the sand while scolding me for not being nice about a racist POS dying
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2022 16:43:18 GMT
I'm a white supremacist now? There is absolutely no point engaging with you. You haven’t engaged with me at all. Just whining and spewing liberal garbage. I’ve given you facts and evidence, and you, like a conservative, ignored it and buried your head in the sand while scolding me for not being nice about a racist POS dying I think you have a fundamental misunderstanding of what the role of the British monarchy actually is - it's purely ceremonial. It brings tourism to the UK.
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Post by Lord_Buscemi on Sept 9, 2022 16:46:57 GMT
You haven’t engaged with me at all. Just whining and spewing liberal garbage. I’ve given you facts and evidence, and you, like a conservative, ignored it and buried your head in the sand while scolding me for not being nice about a racist POS dying I think you have a fundamental misunderstanding of what the role of the British monarchy actually is - it's purely ceremonial. It brings tourism to the UK. That's a load of shite. We put in more to keep it afloat than we get in tourism. www.republic.org.uk/tourism
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2022 16:48:18 GMT
I think you have a fundamental misunderstanding of what the role of the British monarchy actually is - it's purely ceremonial. It brings tourism to the UK. That's a load of shite. We put in more to keep it afloat than we get in tourism. www.republic.org.uk/tourism I don't doubt that. Again, I'm not a royalist (I'm an American...). I just think blaming the late Queen for all of the evils of Colonialism is... off, to say the least.
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Post by Barbie on Sept 9, 2022 16:49:43 GMT
You haven’t engaged with me at all. Just whining and spewing liberal garbage. I’ve given you facts and evidence, and you, like a conservative, ignored it and buried your head in the sand while scolding me for not being nice about a racist POS dying I think you have a fundamental misunderstanding of what the role of the British monarchy actually is - it's purely ceremonial. It brings tourism to the UK. LOL that is NOT true. You haven’t done your research. I have which is why I feel the way I do www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/feb/08/royals-vetted-more-than-1000-laws-via-queens-consent
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Post by Barbie on Sept 9, 2022 16:51:48 GMT
I don't doubt that. Again, I'm not a royalist (I'm an American...). I just think blaming the late Queen for all of the evils of Colonialism is... off, to say the least. I’m not blaming her alone for all of it. I’m pointing out her undeniable complicity as well as her personally vile actions and views. You’re just glossing right over that as demonstrated here. You ignored her protecting her pedophile son and locking up her disabled cousins and left them to die in an asylum with no money or anything
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Post by Barbie on Sept 9, 2022 16:58:02 GMT
@tyler you can’t even acknowledge that she was racist and complicit in her pedophile rapist son Andrew escaping accountability for traumatizing teenage girls. What is wrong with you? Seriously. Do you not care about that shit at all? It’s disgusting on your part
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Post by Lord_Buscemi on Sept 9, 2022 16:58:06 GMT
I don't doubt that. Again, I'm not a royalist (I'm an American...). I just think blaming the late Queen for all of the evils of Colonialism is... off, to say the least. I'd agree the colonial stuff is a bit of a tired angle, like directly blaming her for concentration camps in Kenya or the British government's policy with Ireland, but the problem is more so the inheritance of plundered wealth certainly gives her the image of a figurehead, which is amplified by the praise she gets from folks with a fondness for the days of the Empire. You definitely get this vibe with people talking about "the end of an era", which is true but not in the way it's intended.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2022 17:02:27 GMT
I don't doubt that. Again, I'm not a royalist (I'm an American...). I just think blaming the late Queen for all of the evils of Colonialism is... off, to say the least. I'd agree the colonial stuff is a bit of a tired angle, like directly blaming her for concentration camps in Kenya or the British government's policy with Ireland, but the problem is more so the inheritance of plundered wealth certainly gives her the image of a figurehead, which is amplified by the praise she gets from folks with a fondness for the days of the Empire. You definitely get this vibe with people talking about "the end of an era", which is true but not in the way it's intended. Oh, believe me, I don't disagree with any of that.
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Post by Lord_Buscemi on Sept 9, 2022 17:03:18 GMT
There's also long been a controversial debate about whether the Queen was involved in sacking Australia's Prime Minister, Gough Whitlam, in 1975, so it's no merely exclusive to influence on British policy.
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Post by Barbie on Sept 9, 2022 17:08:18 GMT
I'd agree the colonial stuff is a bit of a tired angle, like directly blaming her for concentration camps in Kenya or the British government's policy with Ireland, but the problem is more so the inheritance of plundered wealth certainly gives her the image of a figurehead, which is amplified by the praise she gets from folks with a fondness for the days of the Empire. You definitely get this vibe with people talking about "the end of an era", which is true but not in the way it's intended. Oh, believe me, I don't disagree with any of that. Barbie - You honestly believe that I would support Prince Andrew (and indeed, the Queen's support of him)? You've known me for over 10 years. Tyler, please point me to the exact sentence where I said you support Andrew. Bc I never said that or even implied that bc I know you don’t. This is a blatantly dishonest reading on your part If you see that Elizabeth protected her rapist son, why are you mad at me for not being nice about who she really was?
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Post by Lord_Buscemi on Sept 9, 2022 17:12:22 GMT
I hope she’s burning in hell with her cousin-husband , Thatcher, Shinzo Abe, and Reagan Seek professional help. Aren't you the guy constantly posting racist shit about Chinese and Russian people on here?
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Post by Barbie on Sept 9, 2022 17:13:32 GMT
There's also long been a controversial debate about whether the Queen was involved in sacking Australia's Prime Minister, Gough Whitlam, in 1975, so it's no merely exclusive to influence on British policy. I didn’t know about that wow The fact is she and the monarchy clearly have lobbying power and immense influence. That she didn’t use that to stop or mitigate the damage from the British empire’s various atrocities is telling. The Crown has been asked directly to at least apologize for slavery and other crimes, and Elizabeth did not budge to do that. So it’s funny for people to shift blame away from her and deny her complicity. And she was complicit because she benefitted from the plunder of the developing world and didn’t want the gravy train to stop. That’s a parasite
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Post by Barbie on Sept 9, 2022 17:14:13 GMT
Aren't you the guy constantly posting racist shit about Chinese and Russian people on here? Yes that’s him. He said in another thread that Russian civilians should be deported and killed
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Post by Lord_Buscemi on Sept 9, 2022 17:14:27 GMT
Yeah. Us libs have some issues. We may even mock people we don’t like. But at least in my regard, we wish no serious ill will on them. Yeah. I want justice done for people. Anyone. If they do wrong, fuck ‘em. But I don’t want harm put unto them. Because they should be treated fairly. They shouldn’t suffer cruelly. In other words, we don’t wish death or harm on them. We certainly don’t encourage them to… how did you put it once upon a time? “Drink bleach?” Like an actual high school bully? Something so horrendously toxic and sociopathic? I fully admit I have issues, but you’ve kind of made a name for yourself of making these incendiary comments, and either calling false equivalence, or cowering away when called out on it. And frankly, it’s not worth arguing with anymore. It’s best to move on, and turn the other cheek. Good day, ma’am. The working class is truly beyond saving if this is the attitude we have towards LITERAL monarchs in the year 2022.
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Post by Barbie on Sept 9, 2022 17:52:41 GMT
This explains why people on here are clutching their pearls over not venerating an old racist parasite
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