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Post by therealcomicman117 on Jun 24, 2022 18:18:39 GMT
Good for both. There's a scenario where we have five movies over 20m this weekend.
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Post by LaraQ on Jun 24, 2022 19:36:38 GMT
That's fantastic for The Black Phone.Very strong for Elvis too.
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Post by stephen on Jun 24, 2022 22:28:08 GMT
Very glad for Black Phone. Joe Hill deserves the profile.
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Post by therealcomicman117 on Jun 25, 2022 15:41:13 GMT
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Post by sirchuck23 on Jun 25, 2022 16:43:18 GMT
Is that the case for Pixar films? I need to look at the numbers historically in correlation between critical acclaim and box-office for their films, but I assumed they usually did well regardless of the critics due to family appeal and being something for children. For instance Cars 2 has a 39% on RT but still did $560 million worldwide which isn’t fantastic obviously but not a bomb. |
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Post by countjohn on Jun 25, 2022 17:36:19 GMT
Relieved Elvis seems to be doing well, was worried it would be a big flop. With an 85 mil. budget 30 mil domestic opening is pretty good, should do well internationally with what a major figure Elvis is, Hanks, and Luhrmann's films being events in Australia.
To start with for Lightyear it just isn't very good and more than that it's dull, so I'm not surprised no one wants to see it a second time. Top Gun and Elvis are both clean enough to be eating up a lot of family business as well and they're better movies.
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Post by therealcomicman117 on Jun 25, 2022 18:55:56 GMT
Is that the case for Pixar films? I need to look at the numbers historically in correlation between critical acclaim and box-office for their films, but I assumed they usually did well regardless of the critics due to family appeal and being something for children. For instance Cars 2 has a 39% on RT but still did $560 million worldwide which isn’t fantastic obviously but not a bomb. It feels like it. Outside of Brave, which feels like more of a post Toy Story 3 bump, most of their movies that aren't sequels, and don't have high scores often tend to underwhelm, The Good Dinosaur, Onward - wasn't tracking great even before the pandemic, even Luca did worse overseas then Soul.
I think it's a very rare "curse" of sorts, where they've been built up high expectations, that anything that isn't considered "amazing", goes over much much worse. If Illumination did their own sci-fi film, and it was similar to Lightyear in some ways, I think it would have done and held better.
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Post by sirchuck23 on Jun 25, 2022 19:13:54 GMT
Is that the case for Pixar films? I need to look at the numbers historically in correlation between critical acclaim and box-office for their films, but I assumed they usually did well regardless of the critics due to family appeal and being something for children. For instance Cars 2 has a 39% on RT but still did $560 million worldwide which isn’t fantastic obviously but not a bomb. It feels like it. Outside of Brave, which feels like more of a post Toy Story 3 bump, most of their movies that aren't sequels, and don't have high scores often tend to underwhelm, The Good Dinosaur, Onward - wasn't tracking great even before the pandemic, even Luca did worse overseas then Soul.
I think it's a very rare "curse" of sorts, where they've been built up high expectations, that anything that isn't considered "amazing", goes over much much worse. If Illumination did their own sci-fi film, and it was similar to Lightyear in some ways, I think it would have done and held better.
I see, that makes sense. I was listening to Matt Belloni’s “The Town” podcast on the Ringer and one of the episodes he was talking with Sean Fennessey about Marvel’s dip in quality (Eternals etc) the past couple of films/tv shows and Fennessey brought up Pixar as an example, where when they were starting to make feature films in the 90s, they would make like one every couple of years or so which would make it an theatrical event and must-see along with being quality films like Toy Story, Finding Nemo, etc and now lately with doing 1 or 2 a year it takes away some of the event like aura and uniqueness of it and brought diminishing returns (quality wise and box office wise). Same thing now with the Star Wars universe and potentially will happen to the MCU in due time. You think that’s a cause as well? The volume of Pixar films? |
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Post by therealcomicman117 on Jun 25, 2022 20:48:00 GMT
It feels like it. Outside of Brave, which feels like more of a post Toy Story 3 bump, most of their movies that aren't sequels, and don't have high scores often tend to underwhelm, The Good Dinosaur, Onward - wasn't tracking great even before the pandemic, even Luca did worse overseas then Soul.
I think it's a very rare "curse" of sorts, where they've been built up high expectations, that anything that isn't considered "amazing", goes over much much worse. If Illumination did their own sci-fi film, and it was similar to Lightyear in some ways, I think it would have done and held better.
I see, that makes sense. I was listening to Matt Belloni’s “The Town” podcast on the Ringer and one of the episodes he was talking with Sean Fennessey about Marvel’s dip in quality (Eternals etc) the past couple of films/tv shows and Fennessey brought up Pixar as an example, where when they were starting to make feature films in the 90s, they would make like one every couple of years or so which would make it an theatrical event and must-see along with being quality films like Toy Story, Finding Nemo, etc and now lately with doing 1 or 2 a year it takes away some of the event like aura and uniqueness of it and brought diminishing returns (quality wise and box office wise). Same thing now with the Star Wars universe and potentially will happen to the MCU in due time. You think that’s a cause as well? The volume of Pixar films? Doesn't help too, that they have legitimate competition as well. When Pixar was starting out, 3D animated movies were a novelty, now they're the bread and butter of the western animation market. I'm sure they'll come back ablazing sooner or later, though.
Most of their original non sequel / IP related films, have been generally well-received in the past few years.Turning Red was even the first real Pixar movie that wasn't from the classic brain trust to get universal acclaim.
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Post by therealcomicman117 on Jun 26, 2022 15:29:09 GMT
Elvis was maybe a bit frontloaded, but all around a good weekend aside from Lightyear's drop. Top Gun Maverick might make it 700m.
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Post by quetee on Jun 26, 2022 16:55:51 GMT
Didn't TopGun have two week head start on JW?
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Post by countjohn on Jun 26, 2022 17:21:32 GMT
Wish Elvis has made a little more but that's fine and it won't be considered a "flop". Should have good legs with adults since the movie is good and do well internationally.
I know the reviews have been good but to me a lot of the new PIXAR movies just haven't been good outside of Inside Out and Toy Story IV over the past ten years. In particular I don't know what the audience for them is anymore, they don't really feel like they're being made for kids. Then there's just storytelling issues, the constant body swap plot devices (at least Lightyear didn't have that), bad pacing, not knowing how to end the movie and just "stopping" abruptly, exc. 95-10 was their great run and it's been pretty mixed since then. The point being, I'm not surprised their movies are starting to underperform. If anything I'd say critics are the ones being affected by PIXAR's reputation with the good reviews they give these things for some reason. There's so much groupthink in film criticism today.
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Post by rhodoraonline on Jun 26, 2022 17:38:09 GMT
Heartfelt congratulations to Cruise's Top Gun Maverick for not only nabbing 1 billion worldwide but also kicking Strange 2 to the side to grab the highest gross spot for the year.
Even if Thor ends up taking over that spot later, it's still a HUGE win for cinema and 'practical' movie-making! Calling on Academy to recognize with an Honorary Oscar to Tom.
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Post by Pavan on Jun 26, 2022 18:08:55 GMT
Maverick cruises past a billion.
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Post by therealcomicman117 on Jun 26, 2022 18:49:56 GMT
Didn't TopGun have two week head start on JW? Yes, which makes its gross and drops extra impressive. |
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Post by Miles Morales on Jun 27, 2022 9:44:57 GMT
Maverick is the first billion dollar grosser for Tom Cruise in his 40-year career, a super huge achievement. Couldn't happen to a better, more crowdpleasing film either - it's just so unbelievably good in an IMAX theatre.
Feeling really bad for Lightyear and Pixar in general. The film isn't one of their strongest but it still doesn't deserve to flop like that - it was crushing that I was the only one in my IMAX screening for the film apart from one other guy, since my mother couldn't join due to her eye surgery and treatments and my friend fell ill at the last moment.
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Post by stabcaesar on Jun 27, 2022 17:08:05 GMT
Tom Cruise is a freak but it is definitely exceptional news that a blockbuster can prove to be financially successful without pandering to garbage markets like China.
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