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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2022 2:47:35 GMT
Yahoo! NewsHolder, who served as Attorney General under former President Obama, said that “America is a democracy in need of serious renovation” because of “our warped Senate, our gerrymandered House, our malapportioned Electoral College and our politicized Supreme Court." In his new book, he says the following things must occur to restore majority rule in the US: 1. Assign term limits to Supreme Court Justices. 2. Eliminate the Electoral College. 3. Grant statehood to Puerto Rico and Washington, D.C. Would you support any or all of these measures?
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Post by quetee on May 10, 2022 4:53:39 GMT
I'm sick of all this talking, can someone please do something. The first thing that needs to happen is to remove Brett at a min since he barely got confirmed and he lied. In fact, I would get rid of the other two also. Susan Collins is the reason why Brett got the confirmation. She believed his lies.
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Post by mikediastavrone96 on May 10, 2022 4:56:36 GMT
1. Assign term limits to Supreme Court Justices. - I'd be open to alternative perspectives, but I think term limits are reasonable. I've seen 18 years be bandied about as a possible limit, and that seems like more than enough time to me.
2. Eliminate the Electoral College. - Personally, I'm in favor of a fractional-proportional electoral college, meaning each state still gets electoral votes but instead of a winner take all system that results in, say, Florida's 25 electoral votes being decided by 537 votes, you'd split up the electoral votes 13-12. Set a minimum threshold for what percentage of votes are necessary to secure an electoral vote for a 3rd party candidates, and I think it could really work. Downsides are that still not every vote will be equal, it does not guarantee a popular vote winner, and it could take a while to calculate the results (particularly for a close election), but this is the best system I've heard of to make each state relevant and competitive in elections and bridge some of the divide of this country.
3. Grant statehood to Puerto Rico and Washington, D.C. - Absolutely. Puerto Rico is not even a question to me, all U.S. citizens should have full representation in the federal government. As for D.C., shrink the federal district to the area around the National Mall (where really only the president's crew lives) and grant the rest statehood.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2022 15:12:32 GMT
1. Assign term limits to Supreme Court Justices. - I'd be open to alternative perspectives, but I think term limits are reasonable. I've seen 18 years be bandied about as a possible limit, and that seems like more than enough time to me. Consider that even if, by some miracle, Congress were able to codify Roe, this Supreme Court would no doubt nullify it. I think it's time to not only impose term limits, but also expand the Court - a Democrat President should be allowed to appoint at least two new Justices, given that the seats of Scalia and Ginsburg were stolen by Mitch McConnell.
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Post by Joaquim on May 10, 2022 22:44:04 GMT
1. Assign term limits to Supreme Court Justices. - I'd be open to alternative perspectives, but I think term limits are reasonable. I've seen 18 years be bandied about as a possible limit, and that seems like more than enough time to me. Consider that even if, by some miracle, Congress were able to codify Roe, this Supreme Court would no doubt nullify it. I think it's time to not only impose term limits, but also expand the Court - a Democrat President should be allowed to appoint at least two new Justices, given that the seats of Scalia and Ginsburg were stolen by Mitch McConnell. How was Ginsburg’s seat stolen? Lmao I don’t like McConnell either but it’s not his fault Ginsburg croaked while Trump was in office instead of retiring shortly after Obama won his 2nd term like she probably should’ve done to avoid the Scalia/Garland shenanigans. Saying Ginsburg’s seat was stolen is like saying the election was stolen from Trump. Absolutely delusional
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2022 23:21:56 GMT
Consider that even if, by some miracle, Congress were able to codify Roe, this Supreme Court would no doubt nullify it. I think it's time to not only impose term limits, but also expand the Court - a Democrat President should be allowed to appoint at least two new Justices, given that the seats of Scalia and Ginsburg were stolen by Mitch McConnell. How was Ginsburg’s seat stolen? Lmao I don’t like McConnell either but it’s not his fault Ginsburg croaked while Trump was in office instead of retiring shortly after Obama won his 2nd term like she probably should’ve done to avoid the Scalia/Garland shenanigans. Saying Ginsburg’s seat was stolen is like saying the election was stolen from Trump. Absolutely delusional I say it obviously because McConnell and co. didn’t honor the precedent they invented in 2016.
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Post by Joaquim on May 10, 2022 23:46:10 GMT
How was Ginsburg’s seat stolen? Lmao I don’t like McConnell either but it’s not his fault Ginsburg croaked while Trump was in office instead of retiring shortly after Obama won his 2nd term like she probably should’ve done to avoid the Scalia/Garland shenanigans. Saying Ginsburg’s seat was stolen is like saying the election was stolen from Trump. Absolutely delusional I say it obviously because McConnell and co. didn’t honor the precedent they invented in 2016. Democrats did not control the senate for ACB hearings like Republicans did for Garland, who actually had the added bonus of also controlling the House at the time. Just because there was an opening during an election year doesn’t mean it’s the same scenario, and that precedent you’re referring to was actually “invented” waaaaayyy before McConnell pulled that shit. Read a history book, and maybe a law book too, then try again. While I may not agree with saying Scalia’s seat was stolen I can certainly see how a legitimate argument can be made saying it was, but to say the same about Ginsburg’s seat is absolutely ludicrous
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Post by quetee on May 11, 2022 0:59:46 GMT
Scalia's seat was stolen.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2022 14:59:19 GMT
Scalia's seat was stolen. Absolutely. We have to expand the Court, as it has lost all credibility as a neutral arbiter of the law.
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on May 11, 2022 16:14:27 GMT
Ezra Klein's brilliant book Why We're Polarized touched on a lot of this stuff. The way the system is set up incentivizes the kind of behavior we saw in 2016 with Garland and 2020 with ACB.
The GOP Congress advantage is mindboggling and even more pronounced than the Electoral College advantage. Small states are over-represented while large populates states are severely underrepresented (the votes of rural voters count vastly more than than the votes of urban voters in many states). GOP has had the majority in the Senate multiple times since 2000 but hasn't represented a majority of the electorate a single time during that period. Klein's book goes deep into all that as well.
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Post by Joaquim on May 11, 2022 16:38:10 GMT
Scalia's seat was stolen. Absolutely. We have to expand the Court, as it has lost all credibility as a neutral arbiter of the law. Expanding the Court isn’t going to magically bring back its credibility. In fact, it’s more likely to have the opposite effect regardless of whether Democrats or Republicans are the ones who expand it
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on May 11, 2022 16:58:32 GMT
Absolutely. We have to expand the Court, as it has lost all credibility as a neutral arbiter of the law. Expanding the Court isn’t going to magically bring back its credibility. In fact, it’s more likely to have the opposite effect regardless of whether Democrats or Republicans are the ones who expand it I sort of agree with this. There are two issues with expansion -- you're delaying the inevitable return of illegitimacy claims (an 18-seat court is going to be sway to the same kind of partisan factors as a 9-seat court, just slightly more diluted), and of course there's the issue of who exactly gets to control the expansion. If GOP and Dems get equal input, we're right back where we started. If Dems control the whole process or most of it, that's vastly more unfair than how GOP gamed the existing system under Trump. I think expansion is theoretically a good idea but I have no idea how they'd do it fairly in this climate. Term limits would just be so much easier to implement.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2022 17:20:52 GMT
Expanding the Court isn’t going to magically bring back its credibility. In fact, it’s more likely to have the opposite effect regardless of whether Democrats or Republicans are the ones who expand it I sort of agree with this. There are two issues with expansion -- you're delaying the inevitable return of illegitimacy claims (an 18-seat court is going to be sway to the same kind of partisan factors as a 9-seat court, just slightly more diluted), and of course there's the issue of who exactly gets to control the expansion. If GOP and Dems get equal input, we're right back where we started. If Dems control the whole process or most of it, that's vastly more unfair than how GOP gamed the existing system under Trump. I think expansion is theoretically a good idea but I have no idea how they'd do it fairly in this climate. Term limits would just be so much easier to implement. Term limits and granting statehood to DC and Puerto Rico seem like the most manageable/plausible solutions.
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