Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
Likes:
|
Post by Deleted on May 1, 2017 11:07:31 GMT
PALME: Loveless
GRAND PRIX: Happy End
JURY: 120 BPM
DIRECTOR: Haynes, Wonderstruck
ACTOR: Nagase, Hikari
ACTRESS: Kidman, Killing of a Sacred Deer
SCREENPLAY: The Square
Zyvaginstev has very strong Cannes history (screenplay win for Levithian, The Banishment played in comp, Elena won UCR) Loveless has strong early buzz and from the premise it seems like it'll have the necessary social heft that usually wins the big prize
Haneke is one of the most acclaimed directors in the world, and while a 3rd Palme seems unlikely, his respect and the social concept of Happy End should keep him in contention elsewhere
120 BPM could end up being the biggest hit at the festival and on paper, makes sense as a huge player, but Campillo is relatively young and this is his first Cannes entry as director and 3rd film in total
Haynes is well-respected and has strong Cannes history, and while Wonderstruck is probably too "slight" to take Palme, the movie should play very well to the jury that consists of Almodovar, Chastain, Maren Ade, Will Smith, and the direction is flashy
Actor is an extremely tough call-- Phoenix, Hoffman, Reiner are all possibilities-- but I'll stick with Nagase since he's an actor that's been around and worked with likes of Jarmusch and this could be an emotional role, and Kawase has strong history with Cannes even if a lot of her films have been mixed (won Grand Jury in 07)
Kidman feels almost like TOO safe a choice-- she's having a comeback with Lion and Big Little Lies that re-asserted her claim as one of the best living actresses for many, will have a busy festival with Sacred Deer, Beguiled, Top of Lake, How To Talk To Girls, and has never won before-- Sacred Deer has strong buzz and was finished just in time
Lastly, buzz on The Square is very good and the plot sounds like it will slay Cannes, it was a late-entry, and Ostlund won UCR with Force Majeure
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
Likes:
|
Post by Deleted on May 1, 2017 11:25:43 GMT
Yeah I hope Kidman snags the best actress trophy, but The Jury's pick is often out of box in this category. I'm not sure about wonderstuck... It could go either way, but he's had 3 films at Cannes and 2 of them won a prize (Artistic Contribution for Velvet Underground, and Actress for Carol) Almodovar is a huge fan of Haynes and both share very similar sensibilities, and since it is his most accessible film yet (emotional crowdpleaser and homage to silent film) it could play good to the jury |
|
fotodude
Junior Member
Posts: 398 
Likes: 132
|
Post by fotodude on May 1, 2017 12:47:31 GMT
Nice! I was going to make this thread when the official selection was complete for sure, since there could still be some changes. But this is what I have for now:
Palme d'Or: Wonderstruck
Grand Prix: 120 Beats Per Minute
Jury Prize: L'Amant Double
Best Director: Bong Joon-Ho (Okja)
Best Actor: Jean-Louis Trintignant (Happy End)
Best Actress: Vasilina Makovtseva (A Gentle Creature)
Best Screenplay: Ruben Östlund (The Square)
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
Likes:
|
Post by Deleted on May 1, 2017 13:37:03 GMT
Okja is a huge question mark for me, I'm interested in the reception
|
|
|
|
Post by Martin Stett on May 1, 2017 17:17:34 GMT
This isn't based on any science, I'm just picking titles out of a hat.  Palme d'Or -- Happy End Grand Prix -- L'Amant Double Jury Prize -- Rodin Director -- Yorgos Lanthimos, The Killing of a Sacred Deer Screenplay -- Jupiter's Moon Actor -- Robert Pattinson, Good Time Actress -- Diane Kruger, In the Fade |
|
fotodude
Junior Member
Posts: 398
Likes: 132
|
Post by fotodude on May 1, 2017 18:30:38 GMT
Okja is a huge question mark for me, I'm interested in the reception Basically I think it may appeal to this jury and looks like a director's showcase. But another strong reason is that with two films in competition from South Korean directors, and Park himself as a juror, I think one of the South Koreans has to win something. |
|
|
|
Post by stephen on May 1, 2017 19:35:43 GMT
I always say it's tough to determine these sorts of things without knowing the makeup of the jury, but last year was such a clusterfuck in terms of predictions. I will say, though, that I have a feeling Ramsay is a potential for Best Director. The ultraviolent fare at Cannes tends to wind up here if it's praised (Drive, Heli) and I can see someone like Chastain being a vocal supporter of a female entrant in this category.
|
|
fotodude
Junior Member
Posts: 398
Likes: 132
|
Post by fotodude on May 1, 2017 22:05:24 GMT
I always say it's tough to determine these sorts of things without knowing the makeup of the jury, but last year was such a clusterfuck in terms of predictions. I will say, though, that I have a feeling Ramsay is a potential for Best Director. The ultraviolent fare at Cannes tends to wind up here if it's praised ( Drive, Heli) and I can see someone like Chastain being a vocal supporter of a female entrant in this category. I just learned that Jonny Greenwood is scoring it, which just made it even more anticipated for me. And I bet for you too. |
|
|
|
Post by stephen on May 1, 2017 22:08:21 GMT
I always say it's tough to determine these sorts of things without knowing the makeup of the jury, but last year was such a clusterfuck in terms of predictions. I will say, though, that I have a feeling Ramsay is a potential for Best Director. The ultraviolent fare at Cannes tends to wind up here if it's praised ( Drive, Heli) and I can see someone like Chastain being a vocal supporter of a female entrant in this category. I just learned that Jonny Greenwood is scoring it, which just made it even more anticipated for me. And I bet for you too. Although I guess it makes sense, considering he scored We Need to Talk About Kevin. |
|
|
|
Post by eyebrowmorroco on May 15, 2017 5:22:57 GMT
Palme d'Or: Loveless
Grand Prix: You Were Never Really Here
Jury Prize: 120 Beats Per Minute + Jupiter's Moon
Best Director: Ozon
Best Actor: Nagase
Best Actress: Kruger
Best Screenplay: The Square
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
Likes:
|
Post by Deleted on May 15, 2017 16:29:56 GMT
Palme d'Or: Loveless
Grand Prix: Happy End
Jury Prize: The Square
Best Director: Todd Haynes, Wonderstruck
Best Actor: Nagase, Radiance
Best Actress: Makovtseva, A Gentle Creature
Best Screenplay: Jupiter's Moon
|
|
|
|
Post by stephen on May 15, 2017 16:42:41 GMT
Might as well go for broke:
Palme d'Or: Loveless
Grand Prix: The Killing of a Sacred Deer
Jury Prize: Happy End
Best Director: Lynne Ramsay, You Were Never Really Here
Best Actor: Masatoshi Nagase, Radiance (would totally pick Lindon if he hadn't won two years ago, though)
Best Actress: It'd be hard to bet against Kidman, considering her plethora, but that hasn't really helped in the past with the likes of Cotillard. I'm actually gonna throw caution to the wind and think that the jury will pull a Volver and recognized all the ladies for The Beguiled in one single sweep.
Best Screenplay: The Square
Vulcan Award: Wonderstruck's cinematography.
|
|
erickeitel
Junior Member
The beauty of life is in small details, not in big events.
Posts: 464
Likes: 383
|
Post by erickeitel on May 15, 2017 19:01:27 GMT
Palme d'Or: I'm gonna go with Loveless. Zvyagintsev is a festival darling, what with Leviathan winning Best Screenplay and The Return the Golden Lion. Plus, the subject matter seems like something Almovodar could resonate with.
Grand Prize of the Jury: Happy End, because it's topical and Huppert is more popular than ever, and it's on its home turf. Had Haneke not won twice, I'd call him the frontrunner.
Jury Prize: The Beguiled. Chastain will probably want a female director to win something, even if it's not the Best Director prize itself.
Best Director: Todd Haynes, Wonderstruck. It seems more fitting to give it a technical achievement.
Best Actor: Majd Asmi, Jupiter's Moon. Another refugee movie, one after Le Pen's defeat at that.
Best Actress: Emma Thompson, The Meyerowitz Stories. It could double as a career award.
Best Screenplay: The Square and/or A Gentle Creature. Two and a half hours = lots of dialogue.
Un Certain Regard: After the War, picked randomly
Queer Palm: 120 Beats Per Minute
Vulcan Award: VFX, Okja
Golden Eye: Napalm
|
|
|
|
Post by stephen on May 15, 2017 19:09:29 GMT
Palme d'Or: I'm gonna go with Loveless. Zvyagintsev is festival darling, what with Leviathan winning Best Screenplay and The Return the Golden Lion. Plus, the subject matter seems like something Almovodar could resonate with. Grand Prize of the Jury: Happy End, because it's topical and Huppert is more popular than ever, and it's on its home turf. Had Haneke not won twice, I'd call him the frontrunner. Jury Prize: The Beguiled. Chastain will probably want a female director to win something, even if it's not the Best Director prize itself. Best Director: Todd Haynes, Wonderstruck. It seems more fitting to give it a technical achievement. Best Actor: Majd Asmi, Jupiter's Moon. Another refugee movie, one after Le Pen's defeat at that. Best Actress: Emma Thompson, The Meyerowitz Stories. It could double as a career award. Best Screenplay: The Square and/or A Gentle Creature. Two and a half hours = lots of dialogue. Un Certain Regard: After the War, picked randomly Queer Palm: 120 Beats Per MinuteVulcan Award: VFX, OkjaGolden Eye: Napalm Didn't Okja get ousted from competition because of the dumbass Netflix rule? |
|
fotodude
Junior Member
Posts: 398
Likes: 132
|
Post by fotodude on May 15, 2017 19:20:40 GMT
Palme d'Or: I'm gonna go with Loveless. Zvyagintsev is festival darling, what with Leviathan winning Best Screenplay and The Return the Golden Lion. Plus, the subject matter seems like something Almovodar could resonate with. Grand Prize of the Jury: Happy End, because it's topical and Huppert is more popular than ever, and it's on its home turf. Had Haneke not won twice, I'd call him the frontrunner. Jury Prize: The Beguiled. Chastain will probably want a female director to win something, even if it's not the Best Director prize itself. Best Director: Todd Haynes, Wonderstruck. It seems more fitting to give it a technical achievement. Best Actor: Majd Asmi, Jupiter's Moon. Another refugee movie, one after Le Pen's defeat at that. Best Actress: Emma Thompson, The Meyerowitz Stories. It could double as a career award. Best Screenplay: The Square and/or A Gentle Creature. Two and a half hours = lots of dialogue. Un Certain Regard: After the War, picked randomly Queer Palm: 120 Beats Per MinuteVulcan Award: VFX, OkjaGolden Eye: Napalm Didn't Okja get ousted from competition because of the dumbass Netflix rule? There was some conflict but in the end both that and Meyerowitz Stories stayed. Netflix films will be excluded from competition starting next year though. |
|
|
|
Post by stephen on May 15, 2017 19:24:00 GMT
Didn't Okja get ousted from competition because of the dumbass Netflix rule? There was some conflict but in the end both that and Meyerowitz Stories stayed. Netflix films will be excluded from competition starting next year though. Awesome. I may shift one of my prizes to accommodate, as I feel there may be some passion for Okja on the jury. |
|
erickeitel
Junior Member
The beauty of life is in small details, not in big events.
Posts: 464
Likes: 383
|
Post by erickeitel on May 15, 2017 19:36:47 GMT
People are saying Will Smith will vouch for Okja and Good Time just because he probably wouldn't like anything else.
But hey, maybe he'll take a likening to Naomi Kawase. You never know.
|
|
|
|
Post by DanQuixote on May 15, 2017 20:09:26 GMT
Palme d’Or - 120 BEATS PER MINUTE by Robin Campillo
Grand Prix - WONDERSTRUCK by Todd Haynes
Prix du Jury - A GENTLE CREATURE by Sergei Loznitsa
Best Director - Sofia Coppola for THE BEGUILED
Best Actor - Alexei Rozin for LOVELESS
Best Actress - Marine Vacth for L'AMANT DOUBLE
Best Screenplay - Ruben Östlund for THE SQUARE
|
|
fotodude
Junior Member
Posts: 398
Likes: 132
|
Post by fotodude on May 15, 2017 21:51:03 GMT
There was some conflict but in the end both that and Meyerowitz Stories stayed. Netflix films will be excluded from competition starting next year though. Awesome. I may shift one of my prizes to accommodate, as I feel there may be some passion for Okja on the jury. Especially since juror Park was a producer for Bong's Snowpiercer, so they must get along. I have a feeling this strong South Korean presence will translate to some award recognition. |
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
Likes:
|
Post by Deleted on May 15, 2017 22:02:45 GMT
People are saying Will Smith will vouch for Okja and Good Time just because he probably wouldn't like anything else. But hey, maybe he'll take a likening to Naomi Kawase. You never know. I actually think he'd like Meyerowitz Stories, and obviously Wonderstruck |
|
|
|
Post by stephen on May 15, 2017 22:07:40 GMT
Awesome. I may shift one of my prizes to accommodate, as I feel there may be some passion for Okja on the jury. Especially since juror Park was a producer for Bong's Snowpiercer, so they must get along. I have a feeling this strong South Korean presence will translate to some award recognition. That definitely occurred to me. I think it could take one of either Grand Prix or Jury Prize. |
|
Zeb31
Based
Bernardo is not believing que vous êtes come to bing bing avec nous
Posts: 2,557
Likes: 3,794
|
Post by Zeb31 on May 15, 2017 23:21:08 GMT
Mostly parroting other people's insights. Palme d'Or: Loveless. Basing this on the premise (sounds hefty and emotionally charged enough to win the big one) and the success of Zvyagintsev's previous work.
Grand Prix: Happy End. Extremely topical subject matter, Haneke is a Cannes favorite, Huppert is as popular as ever, and having one of her buddies on the jury won't hurt either.
Jury Prize: Okja. The Park connection will probably be of great help here, and the Netflix controversy might be another boost if they feel like making a statement.
Best Director: fuck it, I'm going with a tie: Todd Haynes, Wonderstruck (looks like a juicy directorial showcase that's bound to play well to several members of that jury) and Lynne Ramsay, You Were Never Really Here (like Stephen said, this is where hyperviolent fare gets its due, and I can see Chastain pushing hard for one of the female directors to win one of the top categories). We've just had 3 consecutive years with ties in the main competition, so it's not out of the realm of possibility.
Best Actor: no idea, really. I'm cheating off of you guys and going with Masatoshi Nagase, Radiance.
Best Actress: again, a shot in the dark. Vasilina Makovtseva, A Gentle Creature. Plotline makes it sound like a real showcase for its lead.
Best Screenplay: The Square. Seems like the right place to throw a bone to what sounds like a very script-driven project.
It feels wrong to leave 120 Beats per Minute out, but I'm not sure what to replace. Maybe that wins the Palme and Loveless gets Best Actor?
|
|
fotodude
Junior Member
Posts: 398
Likes: 132
|
Post by fotodude on May 16, 2017 6:43:40 GMT
Mostly parroting other people's insights. Palme d'Or: Loveless. Basing this on the premise (sounds hefty and emotionally charged enough to win the big one) and the success of Zvyagintsev's previous work.
Grand Prix: Happy End. Extremely topical subject matter, Haneke is a Cannes favorite, Huppert is as popular as ever, and having one of her buddies on the jury won't hurt either.
Jury Prize: Okja. The Park connection will probably be of great help here, and the Netflix controversy might be another boost if they feel like making a statement.
Best Director: fuck it, I'm going with a tie: Todd Haynes, Wonderstruck (looks like a juicy directorial showcase that's bound to play well to several members of that jury) and Lynne Ramsay, You Were Never Really Here (like Stephen said, this is where hyperviolent fare gets its due, and I can see Chastain pushing hard for one of the female directors to win one of the top categories). We've just had 3 consecutive years with ties in the main competition, so it's not out of the realm of possibility.
Best Actor: no idea, really. I'm cheating off of you guys and going with Masatoshi Nagase, Radiance.
Best Actress: again, a shot in the dark. Vasilina Makovtseva, A Gentle Creature. Plotline makes it sound like a real showcase for its lead.
Best Screenplay: The Square. Seems like the right place to throw a bone to what sounds like a very script-driven project.
It feels wrong to leave 120 Beats per Minute out, but I'm not sure what to replace. Maybe that wins the Palme and Loveless gets Best Actor?
Or Trintignant could get Best Actor and BPM win the Grand Prix instead. |
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
Likes:
|
Post by Deleted on May 25, 2017 6:57:32 GMT
The only movie I'm positive will win something is 120 BPM
The Square has high buzz so it would be weird for Ostlund to leave with nothing and it seems like something this jury will more or less enjoy but not love, but it still sounds too odd to be fully embraced, so what does it take as a consolation-- screenplay, Prix, director
Wonderstruck, Okja, Redoubtable, Meyerowitz Stories all seem like films this jury will enjoy the most as whole, but they're somewhat admittedly slight and not big overall contenders so what they can reasonably get
Wonderstruck- Director, Jury, or Actress (longshot, probably)
Okja- Director, Jury
Redoubtable- like, Actor only (maybe screenplay)
Meyerowitz- only actor
Beguiled played well, and could be a strong dark horse: with big fest, Farrell and Kidman can contend for acting, while Coppola herself could be rewarded with a prize-- with this jury, I feel like they'd want to make a statement with her (Director is where dark fare is usually rewarded)
Happy End, Loveless, Sacred Deer are all from Cannes favorites and have received their fair share of acclaim and supporters, but they all seem relentlessly dark--- films that Will Smith will hate and Sorrentino, Chastain, and Maren Ade might be mixed on but still respect
So, perhaps something like
PALME: 120 BPM
JURY: Okja
PRIX: Loveless
DIRECTOR: Coppola
ACTOR: Pattinson
ACTRESS: Kidman (Sacred Deer)
SCREENPLAY: The Square
That leaves Haneke with nothing which seems weird, but I'm sure what he can manage for a lesser film in a rather competitive field
Plus, the Ozon hasnt screened yet which has big buzz
|
|
