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Post by pacinoyes on Jan 26, 2022 17:38:05 GMT
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Post by Joaquim on Jan 26, 2022 18:17:34 GMT
3 thoughts…
1) Democrats are basically conceding defeat in the midterms already. They got Breyer to retire so they could have confirmation hearings to rile up the base before midterms
2) Who will Manchin and Sinema approve of? We all know the pick will ultimately hinge on those two and Schumer will do what he can to approve the first choice. Will they listen or will they remember all the times the democrat establishment and its constituents have been total shitbags to them? Although I’m sure Schumer will try to flip someone like Romney
3) GOP strategy should be the same as the Garland hearings. Obstruct. Obstruct. Obstruct. “Oh the election is a few months away, let the people have a say in who the next justice is”. “Oh the midterms are a few months away and this is a historically unpopular (at this point) administration. Let the people have a say in who the justice is”. Keep that seat empty until DeSantis takes office if you have to. Play dirty. I don’t think anyone can claim Garland was a sensible, moderate pick anymore after seeing what he’s been up to in the AG’s office the past year. Any “sensible, moderate” pick the dems may try to push through is not actually a sensible, moderate pick. Republicans didn’t take the bait with Garland, don’t take the bait again. Don’t be afraid to play dirty. Or dirtier, if you think Garland was already done dirty
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Post by hilderic on Jan 26, 2022 18:40:06 GMT
This is spooky: I was thinking about him yesterday and wondering how old he was. Well, I now read he turns 84 in August, so if the Democrats lose the Senate this year and the White House in 2024 (which is perfectly possible), the next chance to replace him would be in 2029, when he turns 91. In other words, though Breyer spent last year railing against the politicisation of the Supreme Court and essentially suggesting that retiring in the run-up to an election would go against his principles, I guess this was inevitable.
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Post by Joaquim on Jan 26, 2022 18:48:10 GMT
In other words, though Breyer spent last year railing against the politicisation of the Supreme Court and essentially suggesting that retiring in the run-up to an election would go against his principles, I guess this was inevitable. Gotta think party leaders got to him and told him we’re not having another Ginsburg situation |
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Jan 27, 2022 1:19:35 GMT
If GOP had their way no Dem administration would confirm any justices ever, before or after an election or at any other time in its lifecycle. Dems can try reminding voters about that but 1) people are tired of dems being defensive and 2) people have short memories. Not enough people will care in 2022 that the GOP pushed through Handmaid's Tale weeks before an election after blocking Garland for a whole year. They don't remember or don't care.
Either way, whoever Dems try to confirm Manchin and Sinema will find a way to torpedo the proceedings like always.
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Jan 27, 2022 1:21:02 GMT
does anyone know what would happen if the Dems fail to confirm a justice before the midterms and then lose Congress? Biden could nominate all he wanted but no GOP senate would confirm any of those appointments, so would we just have 8 justices until 2025? Has that ever happened?
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Post by RiverleavesElmius on Jan 27, 2022 16:45:34 GMT
3 thoughts… 1) Democrats are basically conceding defeat in the midterms already. They got Breyer to retire so they could have confirmation hearings to rile up the base before midterms 2) Who will Manchin and Sinema approve of? We all know the pick will ultimately hinge on those two and Schumer will do what he can to approve the first choice. Will they listen or will they remember all the times the democrat establishment and its constituents have been total shitbags to them? Although I’m sure Schumer will try to flip someone like Romney 3) GOP strategy should be the same as the Garland hearings. Obstruct. Obstruct. Obstruct. “Oh the election is a few months away, let the people have a say in who the next justice is”. “Oh the midterms are a few months away and this is a historically unpopular (at this point) administration. Let the people have a say in who the justice is”. Keep that seat empty until DeSantis takes office if you have to. Play dirty. I don’t think anyone can claim Garland was a sensible, moderate pick anymore after seeing what he’s been up to in the AG’s office the past year. Any “sensible, moderate” pick the dems may try to push through is not actually a sensible, moderate pick. Republicans didn’t take the bait with Garland, don’t take the bait again. Don’t be afraid to play dirty. Or dirtier, if you think Garland was already done dirty So you support scumbags being blatant scumbags?? Yup, sounds like RepubliCUNT 101 logic. And ONLY a right-winger would think Garland was a liberal in any way, shape or form. |
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Post by hugobolso on Jan 27, 2022 18:01:53 GMT
the President choose the replacement (no matter who controls the Senate), then Senators aprooves or rejects the new Supreme Court Justice Members.
In a 50/50 Senate, what could happened is that a Republican or Democratic senator dies before the resignance or the eligibility, and that could change everything.-
Suppose that the Justice resign tomorrow, and next week a Democratic Senator dies, well the majority, correct me if I'm wrong, will be Republican again.-
Or maybe he should wait until a Republican Senator dies, so the Democratic Party will control the Senate, so he could resign pacefully.-
I guess Breyer, in case he wants to resign, he will do that after the Covid thing ended (or a Republican Senator dies).-
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Post by Joaquim on Jan 27, 2022 18:55:10 GMT
3 thoughts… 1) Democrats are basically conceding defeat in the midterms already. They got Breyer to retire so they could have confirmation hearings to rile up the base before midterms 2) Who will Manchin and Sinema approve of? We all know the pick will ultimately hinge on those two and Schumer will do what he can to approve the first choice. Will they listen or will they remember all the times the democrat establishment and its constituents have been total shitbags to them? Although I’m sure Schumer will try to flip someone like Romney 3) GOP strategy should be the same as the Garland hearings. Obstruct. Obstruct. Obstruct. “Oh the election is a few months away, let the people have a say in who the next justice is”. “Oh the midterms are a few months away and this is a historically unpopular (at this point) administration. Let the people have a say in who the justice is”. Keep that seat empty until DeSantis takes office if you have to. Play dirty. I don’t think anyone can claim Garland was a sensible, moderate pick anymore after seeing what he’s been up to in the AG’s office the past year. Any “sensible, moderate” pick the dems may try to push through is not actually a sensible, moderate pick. Republicans didn’t take the bait with Garland, don’t take the bait again. Don’t be afraid to play dirty. Or dirtier, if you think Garland was already done dirty So you support scumbags being blatant scumbags?? Yup, sounds like RepubliCUNT 101 logic. And ONLY a right-winger would think Garland was a liberal in any way, shape or form. Yes. Not a Republican tho |
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Post by Brother Fease on Feb 7, 2022 0:10:43 GMT
Democrats are basically conceding defeat in the midterms already. They got Breyer to retire so they could have confirmation hearings to rile up the base before midterms Breyer read the room. He saw what happened with Ginsburg and how the GOP did a massive 180. I don't see where there was force happening. He sees how heavily divided America is. Waiting another year or two, will only mean his replacement wouldn't get a hearing or it will be replaced by a right-wing justice. It is better to retire now.
And yes, we all know the Democrats are going to lose the House and Senate. The Dems need to make major adjustments if they want to remain in power.
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Post by quetee on Feb 7, 2022 4:18:58 GMT
Democrats are basically conceding defeat in the midterms already. They got Breyer to retire so they could have confirmation hearings to rile up the base before midterms Breyer read the room. He saw what happened with Ginsburg and how the GOP did a massive 180. I don't where there was force happening. He sees how heavily divided America is. Waiting another year or two, will only mean his replacement wouldn't get a hearing or it will be replaced by a right-wing justice. It is better to retire now.
And yes, we all know the Democrats are going to lose the House and Senate. The Dems need to make major adjustments if they want to remain in power.
Yeah, I don't think we was forced to retire. I just think he knew when to fold his cards. |
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Post by Brother Fease on Feb 7, 2022 12:24:09 GMT
Breyer read the room. He saw what happened with Ginsburg and how the GOP did a massive 180. I don't where there was force happening. He sees how heavily divided America is. Waiting another year or two, will only mean his replacement wouldn't get a hearing or it will be replaced by a right-wing justice. It is better to retire now.
And yes, we all know the Democrats are going to lose the House and Senate. The Dems need to make major adjustments if they want to remain in power.
Yeah, I don't think we was forced to retire. I just think he knew when to fold his cards. It happens all the time in politics. Why do people think Anthony Kennedy retired before the 2018 midterms? |
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Post by quetee on Feb 7, 2022 16:53:20 GMT
Yeah, I don't think we was forced to retire. I just think he knew when to fold his cards. It happens all the time in politics. Why do people think Anthony Kennedy retired before the 2018 midterms? the upcoming confirmation is going to be beyond a nightmare. |
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Post by pacinoyes on Feb 25, 2022 15:23:53 GMT
This will likely be his only- or maybe "biggest" accomplishment of note for most Americans so far - particularly if he loses the House and the Senate - which is extremely likely and make him a de facto lame duck and possibly a 1 term President:
President Biden has decided on Ketanji Brown Jackson as his nominee to the Supreme Court, according to a Friday morning White House announcement. If confirmed, she will be the first Black woman to serve on the nation’s highest court.
Biden nominated Jackson, 51, to the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia last summer. Jackson had served as a district judge in the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia since 2013, previously working as a public defender, the vice chair of the U.S. Sentencing Commission and a clerk under retiring Supreme Court Justice Stephen Breyer. Jackson attended Harvard for both undergrad and law school and if confirmed would be the first federal public defender to serve on the court.news.yahoo.com/biden-nominate-ketanji-brown-jackson-supreme-court-pick-135812855.html |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2022 17:10:25 GMT
Brown Jackson is still older than Amy Looney Barrett. I would have appointed someone who just passed the bar if I were Biden.  |
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Feb 25, 2022 18:06:14 GMT
Brown Jackson is still older than Amy Looney Barrett. I would have appointed someone who just passed the bar if I were Biden.  I was thinking the same thing haha Jackson does seem like a pretty exciting pick though, between the history of labor-friendly rulings and history as a public defender. Public defenders are the most underpaid and least appreciated aspects of the justice system and one of the few impediments to the system's structural prosecutorial and racial bias. That is going to be a fundamental perspective to have on the SC  |
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Post by Brother Fease on Feb 27, 2022 13:21:00 GMT
Brown Jackson is still older than Amy Looney Barrett. I would have appointed someone who just passed the bar if I were Biden. I was thinking the same thing haha Jackson does seem like a pretty exciting pick though, between the history of labor-friendly rulings and history as a public defender. Public defenders are the most underpaid and least appreciated aspects of the justice system and one of the few impediments to the system's structural prosecutorial and racial bias. That is going to be a fundamental perspective to have on the SC KBJ was an excellent pick. Harvard experience. Spent 5 years on the sentencing commission. Writer for Time and Harvard Law Review. Judge for district court and court of appeals. She also appeals to both moderate Democrats and Lefty Democrats. |
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Mar 25, 2022 17:17:50 GMT
not sure how much you can trust these kind of opinion polls but a lot of them are indicating broad support for a KBJ confirmation. The "no opinion" numbers give me pause. Either those are dems or dem-leanings that don't care (and dems never get as fired up about the SC as they should) or GOPs or GOP-leanings that haven't been given a strong enough reason to oppose her. Obviously lots of people are also distracted by food & gas prices and the Ukraine situation so I'm sure lots of ppl just aren't paying attention. Anyways, this is shaping up to be at least a minor victory for Biden. And I do stress "minor" in the grand scheme of things (re: public opinion, midterms, 2024 etc), but KBJ performed admirably against the volley of condescension and grandstanding bumfuckery in the hearings and I know she'll be a great SC Justice. |
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Post by Brother Fease on Apr 2, 2022 22:07:01 GMT
not sure how much you can trust these kind of opinion polls but a lot of them are indicating broad support for a KBJ confirmation. The "no opinion" numbers give me pause. Either those are dems or dem-leanings that don't care (and dems never get as fired up about the SC as they should) or GOPs or GOP-leanings that haven't been given a strong enough reason to oppose her. Obviously lots of people are also distracted by food & gas prices and the Ukraine situation so I'm sure lots of ppl just aren't paying attention. Anyways, this is shaping up to be at least a minor victory for Biden. And I do stress "minor" in the grand scheme of things (re: public opinion, midterms, 2024 etc), but KBJ performed admirably against the volley of condescension and grandstanding bumfuckery in the hearings and I know she'll be a great SC Justice. KBJ was an excellent pick. She answered the GOP's silly questions quite well and never sunk to their despicable level. The selection of KBJ showed at least competency on Biden's part. This cannot be a bad thing logically and without a doubt a victory for him. But at the same time, I think the majority of Americans couldn't care less. They see it as "a liberal for a liberal". The fate of the midterms will not be on the competency of KBJ, but at the status of the economy, stock market, inflation, and job growth. |
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Post by Brother Fease on Apr 7, 2022 23:00:36 GMT
Congrats to KBJ for being the 116th Supreme Court Justice of the United States. She received 53 yes votes, 47 no votes. 4 out of the last 6 Supreme Court Justices have been women. This is the first black female Supreme Court Justice. 53 votes is more than what Barrett and Kavanaugh received.
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