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Post by pupdurcs on Dec 11, 2021 19:35:54 GMT
American Gangster was trending in the top 10 for a week or so, should nominate it for BP this year as a make-up..lol Seriously though, I don’t know what AMPAS can really do to increase ratings. You could nominate populist films but then you risk becoming the MTV Awards. Maybe thats why Dawn Hudson is stepping down as CEO of the Academy. Abandoning ship. I've noticed that when an old Denzel movie hits Netflix, it trends for few days. Haha. Well, they tried to add a popular movie category but that fail. If the Academy doesn't have enough sense to nominate popular movies with good reviews then that's their problem. They should stop being snobs about the whole thing. There was a time when they did that you know. Something like Tootsie would never get nominated today. People love Denzel's filmography, so that doesn't surprise me at all. I've always found it weird that some so-called cinephiles in their little bubbles think his filmography is perceived as anything less than excellent by general audiences. As I've often said, few stars have mixed prestige and popcorn to such an efficient degree.
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Post by Miles Morales on Dec 11, 2021 19:57:19 GMT
Well, they tried to add a popular movie category but that fail. If the Academy doesn't have enough sense to nominate popular movies with good reviews then that's their problem. They should stop being snobs about the whole thing. There was a time when they did that you know. Something like Tootsie would never get nominated today. It would've massively pissed off Film Twitter but I think Shang-Chi actually had a great narrative to be a Best Picture contender if Disney tried to campaign it. It revitalized the box office for good, it got a solid response all over (especially from audiences) and it would've been a strong counter to the anti-Asian racism prevalent throughout the pandemic. If nothing else, it would've easily crushed Being the Ricardos.
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Post by countjohn on Dec 11, 2021 20:00:05 GMT
I mean… if I wanted to watch West Side Story, I would just watch the one with Natalie Wood at my house. Lol. That's always what I've thought about this and why I was cold on its BO/BP prospects. This is almost like remaking The Wizard of Oz or Singin' in the Rain, what is the point? Everyone still likes the old one. I guess they have actual Hispanics this time, but I can also guarantee you the new girl is not as good as Natalie Wood was. I guess you could say the same thing about Disney remaking Beauty and the Beast or Lion King, but this doesn't have the "taking your kids for the first time" factor and the normal rules just don't seem to apply to Disney with BO stuff.
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Post by michael128 on Dec 11, 2021 20:47:58 GMT
True, but to me, Netflix is cheating on the viewer numbers. Before you had to watch a certain % of the movie to count as a view, now you just have to watch two minutes of it. As far as I can tell, Tick Tick Boom was in top ten for two days. Passing, one day. The Power of the Dog for eight days. Don't Look Up will no doubt to better than that. The key is for it to trend like Squid Game. American Gangster was trending in the top 10 for a week or so, should nominate it for BP this year as a make-up..lol Seriously though, I don’t know what AMPAS can really do to increase ratings. You could nominate populist films but then you risk becoming the MTV Awards. Maybe thats why Dawn Hudson is stepping down as CEO of the Academy. Abandoning ship. Stream them live on Netflix
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Post by pacinoyes on Dec 12, 2021 13:25:39 GMT
Brutal takedown of The Great Satan Disney's handling of WSS from Showbiz 411 posted yesterday - look at those NYC ticket prices The first song from :West Side Story” is “Tonight, tonight…” But the second line shouldn’t be “We’ll be spending $58 on a pair of movie tickets tonight.”
Yet, Disney has made a huge miscalculation with the price of tickets for Steven Spielberg’s “West Side Story.” At New York’s Upper West Side AMC Cinema at Broadway and 68th St. — the same corner at which “West Side Story” takes place in 1957 — seats are on sale for $27.99. That’s in the regular theater, not IMAX. The Senior Citizen price is $26.49 and the price per child is $24.99. Per child. Add in popcorn, soda, and maybe a baby sitter and you’ve got a $100 experience for a couple going to the movies– or more.
Prices are similar across the country, too. In big cities, where “West Side Story” should be crowding in audiences today, business is understandably slow. But $16.50 per adult in most other cities is just as much of an obstacle, especially when Americans have been trained to stay home and stream movies.
Last night,”WSS” made $3.3 million. Add in $800,000 from Thursday previews and Disney is looking at a shameful $10 million opening weekend. And this is supposed to be the movie of the year.
But for people hard hit from the pandemic, already weary and maybe out of work, struggling with record inflation at the supermarket, a $20 movie ticket is discouraging to day the least. To top that off, large sections of the country have been with severe storms this weekend, certainly a huge deterrent for buckling up and heading to a movie theater, showing a vaccination card, putting on a mask, etc.
And let’s not even talk about the price of gas.
“WSS” should have been a big family event, with discounts and encouragements. For one thing, this isn’t “Star Wars” or even “Fast and Furious.” It’s a musical. Without stars. And despite having young actors, the material is from 60 years ago. It’s music by Leonard Bernstein and Stephen Sondheim, two people no one under 40 have heard of. It’s not Justin Bieber and Ariana Grande.
What is going on here? How could Disney, the family studio, have so misunderstood the mission? And what will they do about it, quickly? Because they’re now facing a slew of stories on Monday morning that won’t be very positive. It’s a head scratcher, all right. They can only hope that a huge number of nominations announced on Monday from the Critics Choice Awards will spur audiences back into theaters. But not at those prices.
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Post by futuretrunks on Dec 12, 2021 13:35:25 GMT
Eh, what's the alternative for Best Picture? Box-office isn't really going to matter this go-round.
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Post by pacinoyes on Dec 12, 2021 13:38:42 GMT
Eh, what's the alternative for Best Picture? Box-office isn't really going to matter this go-round. Well there isn't ....but that's not this point................this is the box office thread not the Oscar thread.
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Post by Miles Morales on Dec 12, 2021 14:25:46 GMT
Brutal takedown of The Great Satan Disney's handling of WSS from Showbiz 411 posted yesterday - look at those NYC ticket prices The first song from :West Side Story” is “Tonight, tonight…” But the second line shouldn’t be “We’ll be spending $58 on a pair of movie tickets tonight.”
Yet, Disney has made a huge miscalculation with the price of tickets for Steven Spielberg’s “West Side Story.” At New York’s Upper West Side AMC Cinema at Broadway and 68th St. — the same corner at which “West Side Story” takes place in 1957 — seats are on sale for $27.99. That’s in the regular theater, not IMAX. The Senior Citizen price is $26.49 and the price per child is $24.99. Per child. Add in popcorn, soda, and maybe a baby sitter and you’ve got a $100 experience for a couple going to the movies– or more.
Prices are similar across the country, too. In big cities, where “West Side Story” should be crowding in audiences today, business is understandably slow. But $16.50 per adult in most other cities is just as much of an obstacle, especially when Americans have been trained to stay home and stream movies.
Last night,”WSS” made $3.3 million. Add in $800,000 from Thursday previews and Disney is looking at a shameful $10 million opening weekend. And this is supposed to be the movie of the year.
But for people hard hit from the pandemic, already weary and maybe out of work, struggling with record inflation at the supermarket, a $20 movie ticket is discouraging to day the least. To top that off, large sections of the country have been with severe storms this weekend, certainly a huge deterrent for buckling up and heading to a movie theater, showing a vaccination card, putting on a mask, etc.
And let’s not even talk about the price of gas.
“WSS” should have been a big family event, with discounts and encouragements. For one thing, this isn’t “Star Wars” or even “Fast and Furious.” It’s a musical. Without stars. And despite having young actors, the material is from 60 years ago. It’s music by Leonard Bernstein and Stephen Sondheim, two people no one under 40 have heard of. It’s not Justin Bieber and Ariana Grande.
What is going on here? How could Disney, the family studio, have so misunderstood the mission? And what will they do about it, quickly? Because they’re now facing a slew of stories on Monday morning that won’t be very positive. It’s a head scratcher, all right. They can only hope that a huge number of nominations announced on Monday from the Critics Choice Awards will spur audiences back into theaters. But not at those prices.I live in Kolkata and I paid less than $2.5 for my ticket, what the fuck did Disney do over there? Did they seriously think NYC people would pay Broadway prices for movie tickets?
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Post by sirchuck23 on Dec 12, 2021 15:43:28 GMT
Those NYC prices are insane. Ain't nobody trying to pay that amount for a WSS remake. No matter if Spielberg directed it or not and it had great reviews.
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Post by therealcomicman117 on Dec 12, 2021 16:28:41 GMT
I sure hope West Side Story has great legs, because as somebody who's a bit of a box office nerd, I'd hate for it to be Spielberg's lowest grossing film ever.
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Post by therealcomicman117 on Dec 12, 2021 16:33:28 GMT
Those NYC prices are insane. Ain't nobody trying to pay that amount for a WSS remake. No matter if Spielberg directed it or not and it had great reviews. Yup, even as somebody who wants the movie to do well, those particular ticket prices are pretty ridiculous. It makes sense, though, if you consider just how large the city is, it's why people rarely shoot in New York when it comes to big productions anymore, the system working as intended basically.
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Post by LaraQ on Dec 12, 2021 16:47:26 GMT
Those ticket prices are insane.$24.99 for a child?.Greedy and stupid.
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Post by pacinoyes on Dec 12, 2021 17:48:21 GMT
HoG might be in the top 10 for God knows how long ......and globally it still hasn't even opened in Australia or Italy and with its global is going to combined rip past 100 million in the next 10 days I imagine .....as disappointing as WSS is.......the box office for HoG is fascinating to watch ........an original film for adults ......go figure "Sony’s “Ghostbusters: Afterlife” is third with $6.4 million in its fourth weekend and a $111 million total, while MGM’s “House of Gucci” is fourth with $4 millon in its third weekend and a $41 million total. Marvel Studios’ “Eternals” completes the top 5 with $3 million in its sixth weekend and a $161 million total."Or .........um...........I meant to say it's going to rip past 100 million combined in far less than 10 days actually ...... Theatrical Performance Domestic Box Office $41,032,121 Details International Box Office $51,990,000 Details Worldwide Box Office $93,022,121
www.the-numbers.com/movie/House-of-Gucci-(2021)#tab=international
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Post by countjohn on Dec 12, 2021 18:24:25 GMT
It’s music by Leonard Bernstein and Stephen Sondheim, two people no one under 40 have heard of. It’s not Justin Bieber and Ariana Grande.
This made me imagine a remake of this starring Bieber and Ariana Grande and I threw up in my mouth a little, so thanks for that.
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Post by quetee on Dec 12, 2021 18:26:26 GMT
Which probably explains why Ansel was cast in the movie. The rest of the cast are unknowns.
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Post by JangoB on Dec 12, 2021 18:32:30 GMT
Brutal takedown of The Great Satan Disney's handling of WSS from Showbiz 411 posted yesterday - look at those NYC ticket prices The first song from :West Side Story” is “Tonight, tonight…” But the second line shouldn’t be “We’ll be spending $58 on a pair of movie tickets tonight.”
Yet, Disney has made a huge miscalculation with the price of tickets for Steven Spielberg’s “West Side Story.” At New York’s Upper West Side AMC Cinema at Broadway and 68th St. — the same corner at which “West Side Story” takes place in 1957 — seats are on sale for $27.99. That’s in the regular theater, not IMAX. The Senior Citizen price is $26.49 and the price per child is $24.99. Per child. Add in popcorn, soda, and maybe a baby sitter and you’ve got a $100 experience for a couple going to the movies– or more.
Prices are similar across the country, too. In big cities, where “West Side Story” should be crowding in audiences today, business is understandably slow. But $16.50 per adult in most other cities is just as much of an obstacle, especially when Americans have been trained to stay home and stream movies.
Last night,”WSS” made $3.3 million. Add in $800,000 from Thursday previews and Disney is looking at a shameful $10 million opening weekend. And this is supposed to be the movie of the year.
But for people hard hit from the pandemic, already weary and maybe out of work, struggling with record inflation at the supermarket, a $20 movie ticket is discouraging to day the least. To top that off, large sections of the country have been with severe storms this weekend, certainly a huge deterrent for buckling up and heading to a movie theater, showing a vaccination card, putting on a mask, etc.
And let’s not even talk about the price of gas.
“WSS” should have been a big family event, with discounts and encouragements. For one thing, this isn’t “Star Wars” or even “Fast and Furious.” It’s a musical. Without stars. And despite having young actors, the material is from 60 years ago. It’s music by Leonard Bernstein and Stephen Sondheim, two people no one under 40 have heard of. It’s not Justin Bieber and Ariana Grande.
What is going on here? How could Disney, the family studio, have so misunderstood the mission? And what will they do about it, quickly? Because they’re now facing a slew of stories on Monday morning that won’t be very positive. It’s a head scratcher, all right. They can only hope that a huge number of nominations announced on Monday from the Critics Choice Awards will spur audiences back into theaters. But not at those prices.Holy shit, what in the hell are those prices? I paid the equivalent of 5 bucks for a perfect seat on a Friday night. And those prices, as is stated, aren't even for an IMAX screen! I mean, I heard that the tickers in America were expensive but I couldn't imagine that they'd be this insane.
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Post by Miles Morales on Dec 12, 2021 18:37:54 GMT
Holy shit, what in the hell are those prices? I paid the equivalent of 5 bucks for a perfect seat on a Friday night. And those prices, as is states, aren't even for an IMAX screen! I mean, I heard that the tickers in America were expensive but I couldn't imagine that they'd be this insane. These prices are more than 6x the amount I had to pay for an IMAX 3D ticket of Dune. Granted, I went on a matinee show, but even then the prices are nearly 5x of what regular time IMAX tickets for both Dune and WSS costed here. Absolutely insane.
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Post by JangoB on Dec 12, 2021 19:12:24 GMT
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Post by mhynson27 on Dec 12, 2021 22:52:04 GMT
Tbh, those prices aren't too far off what they are here.
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Post by quetee on Dec 12, 2021 22:55:13 GMT
Tbh, those prices aren't too far off what they are here. Yeah, in LA it is about $18 for regular admission and $12-14 for matinee. If you get lucky, and go to the Regal on Tuesdays you can get in for about $7.
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Post by Pittsnogle_Goggins on Dec 12, 2021 23:24:50 GMT
My AMC A-List membership is starting to feel like quite the bargain.
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Post by mhynson27 on Dec 12, 2021 23:53:27 GMT
Tbh, those prices aren't too far off what they are here. Yeah, in LA it is about $18 for regular admission and $12-14 for matinee. If you get lucky, and go to the Regal on Tuesdays you can get in for about $7. For here it's the same price no matter what time of day.
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Post by speeders on Dec 13, 2021 12:12:46 GMT
Let's not forget that The Greatest Showman only grossed 9 million in its first weekend (pre-Pandemic!) and ended up grossing $434.9 million worldwide. West Side Story will probably do well over Christmas break and have legs similar to The Greatest Showman.
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Post by pupdurcs on Dec 13, 2021 12:34:10 GMT
Let's not forget that The Greatest Showman only grossed 9 million in its first weekend (pre-Pandemic!) and ended up grossing $434.9 million worldwide. West Side Story will probably do well over Christmas break and have legs similar to The Greatest Showman. You can't compare West Side Story to The Greatest Showman at all. TGS was an original musical with a brand new original soundtrack of songs. WSS is just the same songs as the 1950's version of the film sang by new performers. TGS was able to tap into a brand new audience because people became obsessed with these new songs they'd never heard before. WSS doesn't have that. It doesn't have anything to really get newer or younger audiences hyped up about it. It's just a remake of that old musical that your Grandma ( or Great- Grandma) liked. Reviews may have been good, but it was essentially a Spielberg Vanity project, not a film that had any reason to exist for modern audiences (at least on a scale that would justify that budget).
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