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Post by pacinoyes on Oct 27, 2021 20:58:18 GMT
Ok, you "Progressive"-Leftist wackadoodles (oh, you are) and you Pro-Trump Right-wing wackadoodles (oh, you are too) - how do you think this case plays out? Do you think this will be a closely watched case or has the moment here passed and it won't have a very high profile (?) Could Rittenhouse walk away a free man? Prosecutors in the criminal trial of Kyle Rittenhouse, the teenager who shot and killed two protesters last year in Kenosha, Wis., will not be able to refer to the people he shot as "victims," a judge has ruled, while defense attorneys may be able to call them "arsonists" or "looters."
In a proceeding about the ground rules for the upcoming trial, prosecutors and defense lawyers debated whether certain language, witnesses or evidence would be allowed. The trial begins next week.
www.npr.org/2021/10/26/1049458617/kyle-rittenhouse-victims-arsonists-looters-judge-ruled
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Post by Pasquale on Oct 27, 2021 21:33:36 GMT
He looks like a psycho
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Post by jakesully on Oct 28, 2021 15:28:54 GMT
In that pic he literally resembles a potential school shooter. tbh,
(edited from learning a lot more of the testimonies during this ongoing trial)
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Post by Martin Stett on Oct 28, 2021 15:50:18 GMT
If he didn't bring a gun like a fucking moron, everything would have been fine. However: I'm not sure if there is any major criminal stuff that can be pinned on him. What is he being charged with? Because from what I saw of the video, he did look like he was being attacked. That said, he wouldn't have been attacked if he wasn't cosplaying Rambo. So I have no sympathy for the guy. As for the people he shot, I have no sympathy if they went after him. Attack a guy with a gun, you get shot and killed. It's pretty simple. If my impression is incorrect and they didn't go after him, then yeah, that's horrible.
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Post by Joaquim on Oct 28, 2021 17:37:33 GMT
Kid is absolutely retarded, 100% looks like a school shooter and should’ve never been there in the first place as has already been said. Isn’t there also video of him assaulting some chick in a school parking lot or was that some other kid that made headlines? Anyway at least he killed a couple of pedophiles and not anyone of actual value
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Post by Joaquim on Oct 28, 2021 17:41:00 GMT
If he didn't bring a gun like a fucking moron, everything would have been fine. However: I'm not sure if there is any major criminal stuff that can be pinned on him. What is he being charged with? Because from what I saw of the video, he did look like he was being attacked. That said, he wouldn't have been attacked if he wasn't cosplaying Rambo. So I have no sympathy for the guy. As for the people he shot, I have no sympathy if they went after him. Attack a guy with a gun, you get shot and killed. It's pretty simple. If my impression is incorrect and they didn't go after him, then yeah, that's horrible. I think part of the prosecution’s argument against him is that he crossed city or state lines with a gun to participate in the events that occurred that night. Could be wrong tho. If they can pin him for that, well he is guilty of doing that at least. As for the actual killings themselves I don’t think the prosecution is taking that dub, they’re gonna have to go all in on the “crossed city/state lines armed with intent” or w/e the proper way to word that is
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Post by hugobolso on Oct 28, 2021 18:18:34 GMT
How old is him, is underage at the time of the shooting?
I respect everybody law, but if he is underage, his sentence should be reduced, in chase the justice finds him guilty.- I just don't remember well the facts, for a further opinion.-
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Post by jakesully on Nov 16, 2021 17:18:37 GMT
How old is him, is underage at the time of the shooting? I respect everybody law, but if he is underage, his sentence should be reduced, in chase the justice finds him guilty.- I just don't remember well the facts, for a further opinion.- He was 17 years old at the time of him killing those 2 guys (so yeah he had no business having a gun at the time as he was minor and he did put himself in danger by traveling to another state). I guess I shouldn't totally place blame on Rittenhouse because he was being attacked from all angles in the video(s) I saw recently. IMO , Rittenhouse seems like he will be found not guilty. The prosecutor in this trail is really bad and way in over his head. I'm predicting Rittenhouse to be found not guilty and there will be a lot of riots/looting (oops I mean peaceful protests) shortly after. Rinse & repeat.
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Post by hugobolso on Nov 19, 2021 18:29:48 GMT
Was found not guilty from all charges.
I hope it's a based on facts desition, and not because the Republican Party won election or increase their votes last months.- I don't like when people are found guilty or not guilty because their suppose to be political party won or lost elections, like for example this year with the George Floyd police officer.-
That a political party interfer on the judicial system, special on penal law, is never a good sign.-
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Post by jakesully on Nov 19, 2021 18:36:31 GMT
This is what I get for listening to CNN & MSNBC and their horribly inaccurate coverage of this case. Learning much more about this clusterfuck it definitely seems like the jury made the right call here. One of the men that Rittenhouse shot and killed was a convicted pedophile and was jailed for molesting PRE-teen little boys. WTF?! I wasn't aware of any of that. Pedophiles are the worst people in the world so if anything Rittenhouse was doing the world a favor. Good riddance The other guy Rittenhouse shot & killed was a real winner too. www.insider.com/details-the-kyle-rittenhouse-jury-wont-consider-during-deliberations-2021-11Also Jacob Blake had a knife on him and was violating a restraining order put on him from a sexual assault charge (the victim was a black woman btw) Hopefully Kenosha WI doesn't burn down too much tonight but I have my doubts.
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Nov 19, 2021 19:22:02 GMT
What I can't wrap my mind mind around is the not guilty on reckless endangerment. That is by far the most troubling implication of this verdict because it empowers militia vigilante punks like Rittenhouse who take the law in their own hands with military weapons and get people hurt/killed because of it. Taking an assault rifle to a protest is like taking a box of dynamite into a burning building. Him being there and visibly armed and with no legal authority was reckless endangerment and the two dead bodies are the only necessary evidence of that fact. I don't believe he went there with motive to shoot or kill anyone, and I don't care if he had the intelligence or not (presumably not) to realize that's what was going to happen when he traveled across state lines to an active protest with an assault rifle. Intent doesn't matter. Him being a stupid jackass doesn't matter.
But there's practically no end to what gun-owning men in America can't get away with so this result isn't surprising. This is Zimmerman all over again. Taking a gun looking for trouble, finding it, killing someone, and being exonerated. Rinse and repeat.
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Post by mikediastavrone96 on Nov 19, 2021 19:23:44 GMT
This is what I get for listening to CNN & MSNBC and their horribly inaccurate coverage of this case. Learning much more about this clusterfuck it definitely seems like the jury made the right call here. One of the men that Rittenhouse shot and killed was a convicted pedophile and was jailed for molesting PRE-teen little boys. WTF?! I wasn't aware of any of that. Pedophiles are the worst people in the world so if anything Rittenhouse was doing the world a favor. Good riddance The other guy Rittenhouse shot & killed was a real winner too. www.insider.com/details-the-kyle-rittenhouse-jury-wont-consider-during-deliberations-2021-11The obvious issue with all that is there's no way Rittenhouse knew any of that when he shot them and his specific actions are, legally speaking, not meaningfully changed because of who those people were. The legal argument is not whether or not the victims were bad people, it's whether or not Rittenhouse was right to be there and shoot them.
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Post by pacinoyes on Nov 19, 2021 19:36:46 GMT
This is what I get for listening to CNN & MSNBC and their horribly inaccurate coverage of this case. Learning much more about this clusterfuck it definitely seems like the jury made the right call here. I'd recommend everyone just take 5 minutes out of their day and watch this. We make a lot of jokes about Fox News but this is the most logical assessment of the case you will see and the most insightful too - certainly far more than CNN and MSNBC in this case. Jonathan Turley does a great job here in disseminating the facts and implicating how this was presented.....
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Post by Joaquim on Nov 20, 2021 0:09:06 GMT
Sending thoughts and prayers to the families of the dead pedophiles during these trying times
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Post by dazed on Nov 20, 2021 2:33:51 GMT
The non guilty verdict sets a dangerous precedent, plain and simple.
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Post by Martin Stett on Nov 20, 2021 2:43:29 GMT
The non guilty verdict sets a dangerous precedent, plain and simple. He was attacked. The kid never should have had a gun, but there is no evidence that I saw of him starting a fight.
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Post by jakesully on Nov 20, 2021 4:27:13 GMT
This is what I get for listening to CNN & MSNBC and their horribly inaccurate coverage of this case. Learning much more about this clusterfuck it definitely seems like the jury made the right call here. One of the men that Rittenhouse shot and killed was a convicted pedophile and was jailed for molesting PRE-teen little boys. WTF?! I wasn't aware of any of that. Pedophiles are the worst people in the world so if anything Rittenhouse was doing the world a favor. Good riddance The other guy Rittenhouse shot & killed was a real winner too. www.insider.com/details-the-kyle-rittenhouse-jury-wont-consider-during-deliberations-2021-11The obvious issue with all that is there's no way Rittenhouse knew any of that when he shot them and his specific actions are, legally speaking, not meaningfully changed because of who those people were. The legal argument is not whether or not the victims were bad people, it's whether or not Rittenhouse was right to be there and shoot them. Oh I agree completely that Rittenhouse should have never crossed states lines (and armed with a rifle no less at the age of 17. He definitely put himself into a very bad position (I've said that on here ) But he was getting chased & attacked by multiple rioters. What the fuck was he supposed to do? Just let them beat him to death? Fuck those 2 scumbags especially that little boy raping pedophile Rosenbaum. He can rot in hell and I won't be losing any sleep over this not guilty verdict.
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Post by cherry68 on Nov 20, 2021 6:45:32 GMT
This is what I get for listening to CNN & MSNBC and their horribly inaccurate coverage of this case. Learning much more about this clusterfuck it definitely seems like the jury made the right call here. One of the men that Rittenhouse shot and killed was a convicted pedophile and was jailed for molesting PRE-teen little boys. WTF?! I wasn't aware of any of that. Pedophiles are the worst people in the world so if anything Rittenhouse was doing the world a favor. Good riddance The other guy Rittenhouse shot & killed was a real winner too. www.insider.com/details-the-kyle-rittenhouse-jury-wont-consider-during-deliberations-2021-11The obvious issue with all that is there's no way Rittenhouse knew any of that when he shot them and his specific actions are, legally speaking, not meaningfully changed because of who those people were. The legal argument is not whether or not the victims were bad people, it's whether or not Rittenhouse was right to be there and shoot them. They didn't know whether Kyle was right to be there either, and that didn't entitle them to attack him anyway. The only thing Kyle knew was they were attacking him and trying to take his gun.
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Post by RiverleavesElmius on Nov 20, 2021 14:38:02 GMT
I hope some decent vigilante cuts this little deplorable cockroach's head up and puts in on a spike. The only good white supremacist is a DEAD white supremacist. DIE SLOW, MAGGOT!!
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Post by RiverleavesElmius on Nov 20, 2021 14:47:05 GMT
The obvious issue with all that is there's no way Rittenhouse knew any of that when he shot them and his specific actions are, legally speaking, not meaningfully changed because of who those people were. The legal argument is not whether or not the victims were bad people, it's whether or not Rittenhouse was right to be there and shoot them. They didn't know whether Kyle was right to be there either, and that didn't entitle them to attack him anyway. The only thing Kyle knew was they were attacking him and trying to take his gun. Love the way you call this little Nazi scumfuck "Kyle" like he was your son. Not surprising, considering you're a consistently braindead Republic*nt dog-whistler on these boards, and were even one of the only 2 or 3 assclowns around here last November to try to sell the delusional and willfully FALSE "election was stolen!" Trumptard narrative. I hope your precious little Kyle is set on fucking FIRE and every pundit defending him in the news now gets an inoperable tumor on the base of their spine. FUCK AMERICA & DOUBLE FUCK IT'S POISONOUS WHITE PRIVILEGE!!
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Post by hugobolso on Nov 20, 2021 15:36:02 GMT
I try to be ecuanimus, not a monster but Also not a hero. But Is imposible to not have Some mercy for him after the press attacks, that aré still doing that. Like Fredo talking about decency, just like women should be touched by His brother, because he would not kill them.
They aré promoting riots right now, what hell happends to all of them. Its a pity that guys like Larry King, Mike Wallace Sr or even Regis Philbin aré desde, because with their eléctrico wheel chair they could kick all the assssesss of the asssdhooles of the CNN, NBC, CBS etc.
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Post by quetee on Nov 20, 2021 15:36:36 GMT
He should have at a min been found guilty for recklessness endangerment. This is going to be one of those situations where five years from now, he ends up doing something else stupid.
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Post by Pittsnogle_Goggins on Nov 20, 2021 16:40:39 GMT
I’m still confused how at a min the illegal gun charge got thrown out?
Also, regardless of where you stand on all the events, I hope we can all agree that this kid deserves to get his ass kicked.
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Post by quetee on Nov 20, 2021 16:44:08 GMT
I’m still confused how at a min the illegal gun charge got thrown out?Also, regardless of where you stand on all the events, I hope we can all agree that this kid deserves to get his ass kicked. I know. It has to be political. That's the only explanation. They are basically saying it is cool for a 17 year old to go to another state he doesn't even live in, take a gun and attempt to "protect" business owners.
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Post by dazed on Nov 20, 2021 18:37:09 GMT
The non guilty verdict sets a dangerous precedent, plain and simple. He was attacked. The kid never should have had a gun, but there is no evidence that I saw of him starting a fight. While Kyle is arguably right for defending himself, he is ultimately responsible for the whole situation to begin with. He wasn’t contracted to defend that building and there’s no reason to carry a gun when trying to play medic. Again, to expand on my one point, this situation sets a dangerous precedent because now hundreds of thousands, possibly millions of Americans will look at Rittenhouse as a hero and there will be a lot more people who now open carry at protests which ultimately lead to more easily avoidable deaths. From now on, the tensions at protests will be even higher than they already were.
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