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Sept 26, 2021 15:11:44 GMT
Post by dazed on Sept 26, 2021 15:11:44 GMT
Mise well make a thread dedicated to this sport rather than making individual threads for every high profile fight.
How about Usyk! He was mesmerizing last night. I thought the fight was going to be more competitive than people were making it out to be, but I didn’t expect Joshua to lose and lose like that. I hope Fury wins against Wilder so that we see a Fury vs Usyk matchup to crown a unified heavyweight champion for the first time in 20+ years.
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Sept 26, 2021 17:53:07 GMT
Post by ibbi on Sept 26, 2021 17:53:07 GMT
I believe Joshua has a rematch clause, so I'm sure he'll pull the trigger on that, but... The bubble has definitely been burst at this point  You can't put this down to a fluke the way you could with Ruiz, there's no lucky punch, he was outclassed over the distance. Maybe he'll make the excuse that he didn't prepare properly, didn't take it as seriously as he should have, but that was the excuse the last time... If that's it again then that makes him a moron. Usyk and Fury would be a way more interesting fight anyway, though whether AJ wins a rematch or not I'm sure the Fury fight will still happen at some point. No way they're leaving that much money on the table. |
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Sept 26, 2021 18:38:38 GMT
Post by wallsofjericho on Sept 26, 2021 18:38:38 GMT
I love Usyk and his personality and am really happy for the guy.
Joshua's biggest mistake was not imposing his size on the guy. Chisora did it better and had some success with it. Why he decided to try and outbox a master boxer like Usyk is beyond any comprehension. He won't win the rematch in my opinion. I think Usyk will anticipate Joshua will try and be more aggressive and will set traps for him.
I can't stand Fury personally but I do think he would likely be the favorite over Usyk because of his size and he is quite versatile. I'm rooting for Usyk to stand tall in the heavyweight division though.
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Post by dazed on Oct 9, 2021 0:50:06 GMT
Who do you guys have for Fury vs Wilder III?
I mean based on the last two fights, all signs and past history point towards Fury winning. I have him winning via TKO in the seventh round. Got in a big argument with my friends though who picked Wilder to win. Obviously Wilder has a chance, especially with the right hand and in a division where one punch can change everything, but I feel like people who are seriously choosing Wilder to win are choosing with their hearts over their heads.
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Post by theycallmemrfish on Oct 9, 2021 1:21:18 GMT
Fury. He dominated II... by a lot ("but my walk out suit was so heavy") and honestly fight I I had Fury winning too.
I don't see this being any different. Let's hope they call it correctly this time.
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Post by wallsofjericho on Oct 9, 2021 1:21:42 GMT
I think Fury wins pretty easily. He just has Wilder's number.
It's too late for Wilder to become Tommy Hearns overnight, he knows what he knows and I think once Fury puts the pressure on him all of his old habits will come to the forefront again. I'm actually surprised at how many people are picking Wilder.
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Post by ibbi on Oct 9, 2021 12:45:25 GMT
Yeah, for all the talk his new team is doing I don't see any way Wilder has of coming out on top other than landing that one big punch, and hell, even if he does land it Fury has shown his ability to take a hell of a one and get right the hell back up.
Would love to be wrong, but I honestly think it'd take some kind of miracle for anything other than a Fury win. People are being played, as usual, into believing it's going to be something other than what the last two fights have made clear.
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Oct 10, 2021 5:29:34 GMT
Post by dazed on Oct 10, 2021 5:29:34 GMT
The best fight of one of the best boxing trilogies. Wow. What a wild finish. Mad respect for the heart that Wilder has and his willingness to stay in the fight after it was very one sided past round 5, although I wish each fighter dabbed each other up after the fight. Hopefully Wilder doesn’t make any excuses this time around.
If it wasn’t already clear enough, Fury is the best heavyweight boxer in the world and I can’t see anyone taking that title away from him anytime soon. For someone that size to be able to be as versatile as he is and move like he does, it’s insane.
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Oct 10, 2021 7:42:26 GMT
Post by wallsofjericho on Oct 10, 2021 7:42:26 GMT
Great fight. Respect to Wilder for a tough performance. I am rooting for Usyk to beat Fury but the only reason I would favour Fury is because of his size.
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Oct 10, 2021 15:45:56 GMT
Post by dazed on Oct 10, 2021 15:45:56 GMT
I think that was the best heavyweight fight I’ve ever seen. Not from a technical standpoint, but from an entertainment standpoint? Just an all out war for 11 straight rounds.
A modern day classic that will have people asking ‘where were you’ during the fight.
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Oct 10, 2021 18:20:29 GMT
Post by ibbi on Oct 10, 2021 18:20:29 GMT
I think that was the best heavyweight fight I’ve ever seen. Not from a technical standpoint, but from an entertainment standpoint? Just an all out war for 11 straight rounds. A modern day classic that will have people asking ‘where were you’ during the fight. Hmm... For 4 rounds it was crazy drama, after that Wilder looked SO done. Like those body jabs he was throwing in round 1 just exhausted him, and you know if he hadn't fired the last guy for throwing in the towel they probably would have done it here far earlier. That one round that ended with Fury just letting him throw shots at his head because they had nothing left on them was just sad. I know the heavyweight division doesn't have much going for it in recent years , but I probably liked both Joshua and Fury's fights with Klitschko more than this. Probably even these guys first fight I liked more, at least there Wilder didn't look exhausted after a couple of rounds. |
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Post by wallsofjericho on Oct 10, 2021 18:22:38 GMT
I did enjoy the Bowe/Holyfield fights slightly more just because there was a bit more skill on display but this fight was definitely one of the best heavyweight fights and an all timer. I think Fury is pretty much untouchable in this generation of fighters but I would love to have envisioned how he would have fared against the likes of Larry Holmes or Lennox Lewis.
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Aug 16, 2022 16:31:06 GMT
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Post by dazed on Aug 16, 2022 16:31:06 GMT
so usyk vs joshua II is this weekend, who do you all have?
i’ll always go with the more technical and skilled boxer in a rematch as they’ll be able to pick apart the previous fight with more success. joshua changing trainers was much needed but i don’t think it’ll be enough. joshua will probably come out strong, win the first few rounds, but will gas and that’s where usyk will start to pick him apart and win with a late TKO imo, if not a unanimous decision.
i’ll say usyk via 10th round TKO.
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Aug 16, 2022 19:25:22 GMT
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Post by dazed on Aug 16, 2022 19:25:22 GMT
i do think the most successful path to victory for joshua is to attack usyks body as that’s shown to be one of his biggest weaknesses (and for a guy that doesn’t have many weaknesses).
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Post by wallsofjericho on Aug 22, 2022 1:27:44 GMT
Great fight overall. I did think Usyk would win by KO but Joshua did a lot better but Usyk just has his number. I'm rooting for Usyk to beat Fury but I think Fury is just too big for him.
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Post by dazed on Jan 14, 2023 3:04:27 GMT
usyk vs fury are stylistic nightmares for each other, hope we get to see this happen. been way too long since we've seen an undisputed HW champion (lewis in 99')
i think fury wins due to him being quite a bit larger AND still having great technique, especially for someone that size. hope that usyk somehow finds a way to win though (only way i see is through points).
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Post by dazed on Mar 10, 2023 18:45:12 GMT
so usyks team offered furys team a 60/40 split for the undisputed heavyweight matchup, 60 going to the winner. fury counter offered with a 70/30 split, 70 going to fury, and with every passing day until it’s accepted, that 30% goes down a percent lmao. i know fury is the bigger draw, but in no way should an undisputed fight where both fighters have a belt be split 70/30, esp when the fighter that has 3 of the 4 belts gets 30%.
this is why boxing is dying. fighters doing their best mayweather impression and ducking from fights that pose real risks. sure fury has pulled off calculated risks (wilder and klitschko), but there’s no reason for this fight not to be made, and one of the fighters out of these two have a history of doing this kind of fuckery. i feel like fury knows he can make solid money fighting whoever (proved that with the third chisora fight which should have never happened), so would rather just take easy fights. a shame, cause he is a great fighter and i do feel like he’d beat usyk, but he’s clearly ducking this fight and fucking us from seeing the first undisputed HW champion in the past 25 years.
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Post by wallsofjericho on Mar 10, 2023 21:34:39 GMT
Usyk accepts Fury's 70/30 offer. Love Usyk. Hope he beats that big dosser. Think Fury will win though unfortunately.
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Post by dazed on Mar 10, 2023 22:28:01 GMT
yup, good chance this will be official it looks like. big ups for usyk on accepting those terms, dude is a breath of fresh air in the HW division. i don’t think he wins either, but here’s hoping that he can pull it off
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Mar 22, 2023 2:58:53 GMT
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Post by dazed on Mar 22, 2023 2:58:53 GMT
well nvm then..
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Post by ibbi on Mar 22, 2023 10:27:48 GMT
Fury might as well retire. What a dick turning his reputation around the way he did and then pulling stuff like this I guess he's ready for WWE. |
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Post by wallsofjericho on Mar 22, 2023 12:08:20 GMT
What a fraud Fury is. My guess is he's waiting for Usyk to age a bit more. While he's not as good I do miss when AJ was on top because he atleast had decent fights the only exception being the Wilder one.
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Post by wallsofjericho on Apr 1, 2023 23:10:47 GMT
Not sure if anyone watched it but AJ was f'n terrible tonight.
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Apr 2, 2023 0:07:37 GMT
Post by dazed on Apr 2, 2023 0:07:37 GMT
Not sure if anyone watched it but AJ was f'n terrible tonight. yeah, it wasn’t all that entertaining. joshua clearly won the fight, but i was expecting him to finish franklin inside 8. looked timid often times. thought that he’d look better overall. |
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Apr 2, 2023 9:28:31 GMT
Post by wallsofjericho on Apr 2, 2023 9:28:31 GMT
Not sure if anyone watched it but AJ was f'n terrible tonight. yeah, it wasn’t all that entertaining. joshua clearly won the fight, but i was expecting him to finish franklin inside 8. looked timid often times. thought that he’d look better overall. I don't think he's ever going to get over that Ruiz loss. He throws one or two shots and if the shorter guy fires of combinations he looks uncomfortable. The only good thing I can take away is that he's a little better at holding. The difference between this AJ and the AJ pre-Klitschko is night and day. He should stay away from Wilder. |
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You can't put this down to a fluke the way you could with Ruiz, there's no lucky punch, he was outclassed over the distance. Maybe he'll make the excuse that he didn't prepare properly, didn't take it as seriously as he should have, but that was the excuse the last time... If that's it again then that makes him a moron. 
