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Post by Brother Fease on Aug 2, 2021 0:37:49 GMT
I just finished watching Judas. Really good film btw. Definitely worth its nominations. I have a theory on why the Academy would put Stanfield as supporting rather than lead as suggested by Warner Brothers.
My best guess is that most Academy members wanted to do Stanfield a favor. The members were really high on Hopkins, Ahmed, Oldman, Yeun, Boseman, and possibly Rahim and Mikkelsen. If they considered him the lead, he wouldn't make their top 5 list. If they nominated him for supporting, which was a very open race, then his chances of getting in, would be much higher. In other words, the leading actor category was full, supporting was the place where he could sneak in.
Maybe another theory is that the Academy saw the Jesse Plemons story line just as important/pivotal, and there was no "true main character".
What do you guys think? Why would the Academy nominated both Judas and the Black Messiah for supporting. This is not like Magnolia or Gosford Park, which has at least 4 different story lines happening.
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Aug 2, 2021 20:34:06 GMT
Obviously that's the only explanation. Enough people liked the movie and wanted to nominate him for it but couldn't do it in lead so put him in supporting presumably in 4th or 5th. He's absolutely not supporting but that hasn't stopped them before, and I guess why should it. They actually have voting power and can choose people to celebrate. Arguing about category distinctions is the realm of a small minority of cinephiles and film journalists. I guarantee most people who care couldn't tell you that Stanfield was erroneously nominated in supporting but they do know that he was nominated for an Oscar.
just my two cents.
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Post by Brother Fease on Aug 4, 2021 11:42:17 GMT
Obviously that's the only explanation. Enough people liked the movie and wanted to nominate him for it but couldn't do it in lead so put him in supporting presumably in 4th or 5th. He's absolutely not supporting but that hasn't stopped them before, and I guess why should it. They actually have voting power and can choose people to celebrate. Arguing about category distinctions is the realm of a small minority of cinephiles and film journalists. I guarantee most people who care couldn't tell you that Stanfield was erroneously nominated in supporting but they do know that he was nominated for an Oscar. just my two cents. Excellent points. At the end of the day, it's not the biggest deal. Stanfield got the Oscar nomination. That's more important than the category he was put in. The Favourite had three leading actress performances, but the studio decided to put Coleman as lead, and Stone and Weisz as supporting. Their strategy worked out well. Ditto for putting Ethan Hawke as supporting for Training Day, even though he had more screen time than Washington, and Nicole Kidman as lead for 23 minutes of screen time in The Hours.
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Post by stephen on Aug 4, 2021 11:52:17 GMT
An incredibly in-flux fifth slot combined with Judas premiering at the peak time for voting, along with confusion on who the lead was in the film because the Academy can't seem to grasp that you can have two leads of the same gender and it's okay to nominate them together. Some people watched the film thinking Hampton was the lead and O'Neal the supporting character to his story, and that was enough to propel Stanfield into the top five.
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Post by youngserling on Aug 5, 2021 21:35:50 GMT
The answer is very simple: Some voters saw Daniel Kaluuya as Fred Hampton as Leading and LaKeith Stanfield as Bill O'Neal as Supporting. While others saw Stanfield as Leading and Daniel Kaluuya as Supporting. And in the end Lakeith Stanfield got enough votes to be nominated for Supporting.
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Post by quetee on Aug 5, 2021 21:42:52 GMT
The answer is very simple: Some voters saw Daniel Kaluuya as Fred Hampton as Leading and LaKeith Stanfield as Bill O'Neal as Supporting. While others saw Stanfield as Leading and Daniel Kaluuya as Supporting. And in the end Lakeith Stanfield got enough votes to be nominated for Supporting. They were the only ones who screwed that up.
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