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Post by AKenjiB on Apr 17, 2017 3:11:13 GMT
So that was an...unusual way to end the show. The second it ended I just thought to myself "Oh, that's it?"
As an episode of Girls, it's a very well-made bottle episode. As a series finale, it's pretty underwhelming. I always viewed Girls as an ensemble piece, so to see a series finale basically entirely about Hannah (and to a lesser extent about Marnie) was just kinda meh. Girls has done these kinds of episodes before (The Panic in Central Park is entirely about Marnie and one of the best episodes in the series) but not as a finale and I certainly didn't think they'd do that for a series finale.
I didn't mind the bittersweet nature of the ending. I didn't mind that the 4 friends had split off and there weren't signs that Jessa or Shoshanna would ever contact or hang with them again. I didn't mind that Hannah and Adam didn't get together. That felt authentic actually. But I didn't mind how all of the other characters were turned into afterthoughts. This is especially disappointing since I'd been enjoying the season a lot overall.
Anyways, any thoughts from others who have seen it?
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Post by ChairfaceC on Apr 17, 2017 3:32:46 GMT
Yeah, as an episode of Girls it's fine if underwhelming, but as a series finale it's disappointing if only cause I don't think a lot of the characters (and by that I mean a lot of the better characters) didn't get the resolution they deserved. They treated this episode as an epilogue, and treated the previous episode as the de facto finale, and that would be fine except that the previous episode didn't really offer anything substantial in that way. I don't expect a series finale or even a final season to wrap everything up in a tidy bow, but I'd've liked at least something to justify 5-6 years' worth of investment in these characters instead of just dropping the final episode like, "Oh and by the way, that anti-climactic party was the last of everyone but these two."
I just felt like the finale wasn't substantial in either narrative or sentiment to justify the lack of everyone else.
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Post by AKenjiB on Apr 17, 2017 3:51:19 GMT
Yeah, as an episode of Girls it's fine if underwhelming, but as a series finale it's disappointing if only cause I don't think a lot of the characters (and by that I mean a lot of the better characters) didn't get the resolution they deserved. They treated this episode as an epilogue, and treated the previous episode as the de facto finale, and that would be fine except that the previous episode didn't really offer anything substantial in that way. I don't expect a series finale or even a final season to wrap everything up in a tidy bow, but I'd've liked at least something to justify 5-6 years' worth of investment in these characters instead of just dropping the final episode like, "Oh and by the way, that anti-climactic party was the last of everyone but these two." I just felt like the finale wasn't substantial in either narrative or sentiment to justify the lack of everyone else. Yeah, like I figured the last episode would be the last scene of the four girls TOGETHER, but I didn't think it'd be the last time we'd ever see Jessa or Marnie. And I figured that episode 8 resolved Adam's arc with Hannah but I didn't think that meant we just wouldn't ever see Hannah again. I'm glad that the show didn't wrap things up in a tidy bow or give everyone a forced happy ending, but it just felt like it treated everyone (as in Adam, Jessa, Ray, Shoshana, and Elijah) as an afterthought. Especially since I honestly cared about those 5 more than Hannah and Marnie. If I didn't know that I was watching the series finale, I honestly would've figured that there was still 1 or 2 episodes left. |
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Post by ibbi on Apr 17, 2017 20:54:51 GMT
It's interesting. Having just watched it I can definitely agree with the idea that it's disappointing that nobody else save for these three characters was featured, but thinking back I think they did a pretty good job sort of setting where Jessa, Adam, Ray and Shosh were all at in previous episodes. So I sort of feel that as time passes, and I get used to the idea that the finale didn't give me everything I wanted, that I didn't get to say a proper goodbye to all the others because I didn't know the last time I saw them would be the last time I saw them (  ) the simplicity of the episode will probably work better and better. It was certainly a very strong half hour, and while I wouldn't have minded one more episode to just neatly round everything off, my feeling is pretty much everyone had their resolution... Except maybe Adam. Also, Becky Ann Baker guaranteed an Emmy nom, surely? |
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Post by AKenjiB on Apr 19, 2017 1:17:18 GMT
It's interesting. Having just watched it I can definitely agree with the idea that it's disappointing that nobody else save for these three characters was featured, but thinking back I think they did a pretty good job sort of setting where Jessa, Adam, Ray and Shosh were all at in previous episodes. So I sort of feel that as time passes, and I get used to the idea that the finale didn't give me everything I wanted, that I didn't get to say a proper goodbye to all the others because I didn't know the last time I saw them would be the last time I saw them ( ) the simplicity of the episode will probably work better and better. It was certainly a very strong half hour, and while I wouldn't have minded one more episode to just neatly round everything off, my feeling is pretty much everyone had their resolution... Except maybe Adam. Also, Becky Ann Baker guaranteed an Emmy nom, surely? That's an interesting perspective. I definitely agree that Becky Ann Baker was excellent and I'll definitely give more time to let the finale settle (and maybe rewatch season 6) to see if I have any different feelings. |
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Post by evilbliss on Apr 20, 2017 18:13:32 GMT
Ok so let me ask you guys this: what do you think of Hannah being alone (no romantic partner) in the end? Do you think she made the right choice to build some character? Do you think she was the problem, always thinking about herself and by doing that hurting her relationships with men? Or do you think of her as an heroine, and men are the ones that didn't really understand her?
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Post by Schiggy on Apr 22, 2017 7:50:44 GMT
It was okay. I was surprised that Shoshanna just randomly got engaged and disowned them all. But she wasn't entirely wrong (though I wouldn't think that she'd want to actually get rid of them). I've always hated Marnie, she's a destructive, irresponsible, sociopathic, soul-eating bastard narcissist - she was very helpful to Hanna but seemed like she was saying (yay, I win being your best friend and it wasn't genuine, it was just self-serving). She only went to live with Hanna because she had no life and wanted to be loved and appreciated and have something to do (sort of like when a woman wants a baby just so she can "have something to love her"). But she wasn't completely annoying. She was mellowed out from her usual dementor self. One of my favorite moments was when Hanna (or someone else) said that Marnie would definitely get murdered one day. I loved that they acknowledged that so meanly, and didn't mind that she didn't actually get murdered but I might have enjoyed it.
Main thing I didn't like was why there was no explanation as to why Adam left. He was ready to marry her, then they just reference later that he wasn't there anymore.
Becky Ann Baker is great. She's pretty kickass.
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) the simplicity of the episode will probably work better and better. It was certainly a very strong half hour, and while I wouldn't have minded one more episode to just neatly round everything off, my feeling is pretty much everyone had their resolution... Except maybe Adam.
