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Post by urbanpatrician on Jul 25, 2021 10:15:21 GMT
In my opinion..... Alfred Hitchcock.
Because you can never guess how his murders would spiral. Agatha Christie was doing some murder stuff before Hitchcock, but she usually has some set formula but applied to different locations like a train, a mansion, etc - and you can guess the murderer is always among the group. And although all the characters seem to have sordid pasts and all have a motive one way or the other, it's usually the same book written with a different location. Whereas Hitchcock is not a whodunnit director, he's more "things are not what they seem." Whereas Shyamalan relies on twists, Hitchcock just has a less predictable storytelling that feels less like a script and omg shock factor readily apparent. That bit with the key in Dial M for Murder is insanely clever, and I couldn't have guessed that. Murder stories were highly popular in 50s pop culture and usually common people would sit at a diner and read the latest murder comic every day, but I think Hitchcock took that whole thing to a new level that his predecessors didn't touch on prior to him.
We all have a different way of interpreting the word cool. Some people think Michael Mann is really cool - and he is definitely one of the coolest, but the guy that makes me feel omg that's so cool the most with select movies like Rear Window and Dial M for Murder....... is Alfred Hitchcock. That being said, I would only apply that to a few of his movies. I wouldn't really say that about Vertigo, Psycho, The Birds. And his 40s stuff is more identified by his subtlety.
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Post by pacinoyes on Jul 25, 2021 11:53:03 GMT
Hmmmmmmm........I'm not a real fan of "coolest" in anything - usually I just go "best"....coolness takes care of itself.......certainly not "cool" actors which I think of as like "people who win all the time" .... Tom Cruise or something - ie he wasn't ever - EVER - cool to me ......it's essentially the Punk Rock mindset .......I like fnckups ...in every thing.... Now I love Hitchcock - but he was so hemmed in by his era(s) that for a looooooooong time he now seems corny.... he isn't corny - he broke the mold....... but he's The Beatles of what he did .........The Beatles aren't the "coolest" band (love them too): EVERY suspense scene - every SCENE takes some element from Hitchcock in some way (music, camera angles, how he builds suspense, some unique touch) whether it intentionally means too or not (the same way you follow a Beatles formula for a hit Pop/Rock song .......whether you realize it, or care, or not)......that makes both influential.......but "cool" (and best) is PolanskiAfter a certain point he realized as a director he had the ability to push audiences into this "cool" grey area and mess with them a lot - where he could use sex much more overtly than anyone had prior (because he was allowed to in the 60s), psychology - he didn't invent this but put it in English language films big time - and tie it into written narratives of suspense with violence and horror in a way no one had - he claimed this "new" territory. Part of that is because he worked often with a great collaborator Gerard Brach his version of Hitchcock's wife Alma - who pushed this idea into his head about how far could he actually go? - ie " Roman, if we show this, what will the audience think and where can we take them then?" The Hitchcock arguments are always too simple: That his films "hold up" because of his limitations - ie "less was more" ......I say that's not really true often times ( sometimes it was though) - he wanted to go further - where "more is more" Hitchcock would never do this scene - never - I'm not sure he'd even understand why it exists - who is the hero? who is the villain? .....and while that's fine, different eras after all - there's no scene at all that Polanski couldn't do or find some way to make it appear "cooler" in its aesthetics......he's the best........ and the coolest because he's the best.....
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Post by MsMovieStar on Jul 25, 2021 12:05:08 GMT
Oh honey, for me it would be Luis Buñuel, because life is surreal. His pictures often deal with bigger questions on morality, but he never shys away from the peculiarities of humans (including the brutality and ugliness)... and there's always humor, originality and an element of surprise. I think when you compare what was being created at the time his work really stands out for me. I really like the fact that his work is never sentimental and unlike a lot of old movies hasn't become kitsch with age. I think I've mentioned this before but I love his whole wig & big glasses get-up when collecting his Oscar... "Nothing would disgust me more morally than winning an Oscar.”
He was an iconoclast, way before teenage rebellion & punk rock... from 1929 when the cinema was smashed up at the screening of his first movie to the 1970s when his movies still caused frictions.
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Post by urbanpatrician on Jul 25, 2021 12:15:20 GMT
Hmmmmmmm........I'm not a real fan of "coolest" in anything - usually I just go "best"....coolness takes care of itself.......certainly not "cool" actors which I think of as like "people who win all the time" .... Tom Cruise or something - ie he wasn't ever - EVER - cool to me ......it's essentially the Punk Rock mindset .......I like fnckups ...in every thing.... Now I love Hitchcock - but he was so hemmed in by his era(s) that for a looooooooong time seems now he corny.... he isn't corny - he broke the mold....... but he's The Beatles of what he did .........The Beatles aren't the "coolest" band (love them too): EVERY suspense scene - every SCENE takes some element from Hitchcock in some way (music, camera angles, how he builds suspense, some unique touch) whether it intentionally means too or not (the same way you follow a Beatles formula for a hit Pop/Rock song .......whether you realize it, or care, or not)......that makes both influential.......but "cool" (and best) is PolanskiAfter a certain point he realized as a director he had the ability to push audiences into this "cool" grey area and mess with them a lot - where he could use sex much more overtly than anyone had prior (because he was allowed to in the 60s), psychology - he didn't invent this but put it in English language films big time - and tie it into written narratives of suspense with violence and horror in a way no one had - he claimed this "new" territory. Part of that is because he worked often with a great collaborator Gerard Brach his version of Hitchcock's wife Alma - who pushed this idea into his head about how far could he actually go? - ie " Roman, if we show this, what will the audience think and where can we take them then?" The Hitchcock arguments are always too simple: That his films "hold up" because of his limitations - ie "less was more" ......I say that's not really true often times ( sometimes it was though) - he wanted to go further - where "more is more" Hitchcock would never do this scene - never - I'm not sure he'd even understand why it exists - who is the hero? who is the villain? .....and while that's fine, different eras after all - there's no scene at all that Polanski couldn't do or find some way to make it appear "cooler" in its aesthetics......he's the best........ and the coolest because he's the best..... Well....... I'm sure Melville and Godard can both be interpreted as cool, so cool definitely can equate to best. Where, I'm not sure if you can call Bergman cool, but he had those very gloomy European settings with his brooding contemplations of death and the best cinematographer working with him, so whatever he did obviously worked in his own way. Yes, I believe Polanski must've been pretty cool in the late 60s and early 70s. Cinema was changing, I guess. Different ideas and standards. And yeah.... Hitchcock's era had inherent limitations. I don't know if you can call him breaking the mold, but he was obviously doing some really cool stuff at the time which is central to my thread. Hollywood had the usual romantic comedies and Christian themed films, and Hitchcock obviously was pretty cool compared to those so obviously his appeal is pretty apparent. The Beatles seem mostly like simple pop tunes to me but obviously considered pretty alternative at the time. Did The Beatles create a revolution? Clearly. MsMovieStar - Good call with Bunuel. The Phantom of Liberty and The Discreet Charm are definitely pretty cool - the stuff that he was doing was not attempted or even known how to be done by many people during his time so I think his coolness definitely stands out.
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Post by stephen on Jul 25, 2021 12:47:52 GMT
John Carpenter and Werner Herzog.
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Post by hugobolso on Jul 25, 2021 14:53:21 GMT
Directors aren't cool, so I choose the one who fucked, with consent, more beautiful women.- That aren't of course Adult Film Directors.-
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Post by cherry68 on Jul 25, 2021 16:48:26 GMT
Clint Eastwood.
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Post by countjohn on Jul 25, 2021 16:58:31 GMT
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Jul 25, 2021 17:34:05 GMT
Jim Jarmusch is the King of Cool.
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Post by Kings_Requiem on Jul 25, 2021 19:14:29 GMT
Sam Peckinpah
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Post by Nikan on Jul 25, 2021 19:32:32 GMT
+ Howard Hawks.
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Post by thomasjerome on Jul 25, 2021 20:19:14 GMT
John Carpenter Paul Verhoeven William Friedkin
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Post by futuretrunks on Jul 25, 2021 22:15:22 GMT
In terms of invoking coolness with the atmospherics, I'd go with Michael Mann and the Tarantino who made Kill Bill Vol. 1.
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Post by DeepArcher on Jul 25, 2021 23:54:53 GMT
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Post by mhynson27 on Jul 25, 2021 23:58:11 GMT
Interesting that there's already been 3 different pics of directors smoking in this thread. I'd say that smoking makes someone considerably LESS cool, but that's just me.
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Post by cheesecake on Jul 26, 2021 1:51:28 GMT
Wong Kar-wai.
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Post by stabcaesar on Jul 26, 2021 1:53:56 GMT
Jean-Pierre Melville
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Post by Viced on Jul 26, 2021 1:57:22 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2021 2:10:46 GMT
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Post by pupdurcs on Jul 26, 2021 3:35:58 GMT
John Huston seemed pretty cool just as an individual, though "cool" seems a pretty nebulous and subjective descriptor for any director.
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Post by bob-coppola on Jul 26, 2021 4:05:38 GMT
Great calls on Coppola, Jarmusch and el Buñuel. However, can you get any cooler than this? Real king shit here.
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Post by TheAlwaysClassy on Jul 26, 2021 13:50:45 GMT
Seijun Suzuki is my definition of the word "cool".
Edit: Hal Ashby and Guy Maddin also come to mind. Altman in the 70s too.
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Post by MsMovieStar on Jul 26, 2021 13:58:48 GMT
Oh honeys, another choice would be Sion Sono - his filmography is really broad.
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Post by themoviesinner on Jul 26, 2021 14:25:06 GMT
No one has mentioned Takashi Miike yet. I mean he is one of the few filmmakers I can think of that always gets big budgets (for the standards of the Japanese industry anyway) and is allowed to do whatever the fuck he likes with them. Who else can claim that? Also, I also don't think that any other director trolls his audience as effectively and imperviously as he does (just look at Gozu or Yakuza Apocalypse for instance). His films don't always work, but he doesn't give a fuck about what the industry, critics or audiences think, he just does whatever he feels like doing. Very cool director if you ask me.
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Post by therealcomicman117 on Jul 27, 2021 16:58:29 GMT
John Huston seemed pretty cool just as an individual, though "cool" seems a pretty nebulous and subjective descriptor for any director. I think one that contributed to Huston's "coolness", was that he was so relatively young when he directed The Maltese Falcon, so his movies have always had a bit of a classical "edge" to them. Plus, I know it's not the same thing as being cool specifically, but god his voice was incredible. As for directors not yet mentioned, I think I'll mention Tony Scott. Not only did he make "cool movies", but the dude just always sounded like such a chill person in interviews.
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