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Post by isabelaolive on Jul 18, 2021 2:27:36 GMT
I watched the Star Wars movies from the 70s and really enjoyed it. But I was too lazy to watch the 2000s trilogy, because everyone says they are bad and boring.
I want to watch the new movies from the 2010's, but will I be able to understand the story without having seen the prequels?
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Post by theycallmemrfish on Jul 18, 2021 2:35:03 GMT
Well they ignored the prequels almost entirely... and they picked and chose what they wanted to ignore from the OT... may the force be with you (you'll need it).
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Post by Martin Stett on Jul 18, 2021 3:37:38 GMT
DON'T DO IT! SAVE YOURSELF!
The prequels are... bad, but kind of interesting in what Lucas was attempting. There is a lot of politicking - heck, the villains in episode 1 are a trade federation, not an evil empire - and it is cool to see the vision Lucas had of how the empire rises to power.
It's just that the execution fails the premise almost every step of the way.
The sequel trilogy pretty much ignores the prequel trilogy (and the OG trilogy whenever the writers feel like it), but it is even worse. It tries to capitalize on nostalgia to hide just how hilariously inept the writing is, with characters never being allowed to make choices that matter, or being allowed to express personalities outside of "plucky good guy" or "whiny emo bad guy." At least the prequels were the work of a visionary (albeit a visionary that needed guidance). The sequel trilogy is the definitive cash grab fast food product of this generation.
Note: I still haven't seen The Rise of Skywalker, but I hated the 7 and 8 so much that I can't muster the enthusiasm to even hate-watch the final installment.
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Post by mikediastavrone96 on Jul 18, 2021 4:08:48 GMT
Sure, you can watch the sequels without having seen the prequels. There aren't many overt references to the prequel trilogy - there wouldn't need to be, not like any of those characters are still alive - and the few that are there don't play an essential role in the storytelling any more than, say, Luke asking old Ben about the clone wars in the original film.
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Post by themoviesinner on Jul 18, 2021 6:14:54 GMT
The prequels are much better than the sequels. I'd even say that they are better than the original trilogy as well. Revenge Of The Sith is, by far, the best Star Wars film. The sequels are absolute trash for me, not worth watching at all. Some of the dullest, most uninspired big budget films of the last decade or so.
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Post by pupdurcs on Jul 18, 2021 6:19:52 GMT
What Martin said Prequels are definitely flawed, but are much more interesting than the new trilogy.I'd fully recommend watching the first two seasons of The Mandalorian though, which is probably the best live action Star Wars content since the original trilogy. The new trilogy almost completely killed my enthusiasm for wanting to watch anything Star Wars related ever again but The Mandalorian was really good, and has the qualities that people liked so much about the original trilogy, without just being an uninspired copy of it.
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Post by urbanpatrician on Jul 18, 2021 7:13:45 GMT
I echo what guys above are saying. The prequels while boring at times, is somewhat more interesting than the last 3 Star Wars. Revenge of the Sith, as said above could challenge the title as overall best Star Wars film, coming short of just The Empire Strikes Back.
The only movie that I thought was really worth anything in the new trilogy is The Rise of Skywalker. If everyone tells you the prequels are bad, I dunno who's telling you the new series is good, cause they can't seriously be of a sound state of mind.
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Post by The_Cake_of_Roth on Jul 18, 2021 10:04:07 GMT
You don't need to watch the prequels in order to understand the sequels, but I think they're actually interesting to view back to back in a way because both trilogies are failures overall but in very different ways. The prequels are very poorly executed but have some good ideas and are clearly the product of a singular vision... you can see potential in its broad outline. The sequel trilogy (with the exception of The Last Jedi, which has some truly great and inspired stuff in it) feels more like committee-made product and pandering fan service that is much less cohesive as a unit because of the shift in writer/directors from film to film.
Not sure if anyone has seen this video from last year, but it's an excellent, extremely well-researched investigation into the process of developing TFA after Lucas sold the rights to Disney and how/why his own storyline for the sequel trilogy was discarded. It's really really really long (broken down into sections thankfully) but pretty fascinating in how it exhaustively presents the conflicting accounts from JJ Abrams, Kathleen Kennedy, Bob Iger, Mark Hamill, etc., how much of a plan there was at the outset, and the timeline of events during pre-production. The main point of the video is that the author doesn't consider the sequel trilogy to be canon but rather licensed fan fiction because they aren't Lucas's ideas (he only considers material from the creator to be canon), and he primarily holds Abrams responsible for discarding Lucas's ideas. He's pretty vitriolic towards Abrams but is kinder to Kennedy, and is also rather critical of the segment of the fanbase who claims that Rian Johnson "ruined" Abrams' "precious plans" for the trilogy. The weakest part of the video though is when he attempts to actually critique the sequels themselves because he doesn't really argue his criticisms in any depth, so it seems pretty surface-level and simplistic - a lot of his critiques seem like he doesn't think very hard about how certain things are motivated by broader thematic ideas or more complex character psychology, so he does seem like a butthurt fanboy when he talks about certain creative choices that he doesn't like. His tone can be condescending at times, but he can also be pretty funny too, especially in his critique of Abrams' "mystery box" philosophy. I recommend the video mostly for its journalistic aspects.
Curious what people's thoughts are on it, though I get it if it's way too long to sit through.
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Post by TerryMontana on Jul 18, 2021 10:44:28 GMT
Imo you could watch the sequels even without having seen the original 70s movies!!! They tried to make it as a standalone trilogy. Actually, tbh I don't know what they tried to do. If they really tried anything...
I liked episode III actually. The first two were mediocre to bad. But the new trilogy is a mess. Sure, I enjoyed episode VIII (mainly because of Mark Hamill) but I wouldn't bother re-watching them.
Bottom line: I'd suggest you watch all nine films or none of the prequels and sequels. You should live the whole experience. If you don't want to, then the original IV-VI episodes are by far the trilogy you should see.
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Post by Martin Stett on Jul 18, 2021 11:05:37 GMT
Out of curiosity, guys: Thoughts on the spinoffs? I've only seen Rogue One, which I thought was really good. One-dimensional characters, but very clearly drawn in their archetypes, and all of them entertaining. And it is the only time (outside of the final battle in A New Hope) that this universe ever felt like Star Wars.
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Post by TerryMontana on Jul 18, 2021 11:17:06 GMT
Out of curiosity, guys: Thoughts on the spinoffs? I've only seen Rogue One, which I thought was really good. One-dimensional characters, but very clearly drawn in their archetypes, and all of them entertaining. And it is the only time (outside of the final battle in A New Hope) that this universe ever felt like Star Wars. I too have only seen Rogue One but I loved it!! Really felt like Star Wars, as you point out. Plus, the whole story of episode IV was firmly explained, so was the "flaw in the Death Star construction" which, before Rogue One, looked really silly tbh.
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Post by wonky on Jul 18, 2021 16:50:38 GMT
I can't quite pin down when this became some blazing hot take in geekdom but I thoroughly enjoyed Force Awakens and Last Jedi, I thought they had so much energy and heart. I love the whole vibe of those two.
Rise of Skywalker was pretty bad, Rogue One was fine, Solo okay, Mandalorian pretty good. The prequels aren't as bad as they were made out to be but now I feel like people who hate the Disney stuff really overcompensate in defending their merits. They are just kind of dull except for some climactic action moments when Lucas wakes up a bit, and McDiarmid in III.
And no, the prequels aren't necessary to understand the sequels.
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Post by isabelaolive on Jul 23, 2021 23:16:02 GMT
Thanks to everyone who answered my question. After reading the answers I came to the conclusion that I don't want to watch the other Star Wars movies anymore, there are a total of 11 movies, plus several TV series (live action or animated), although I liked the main trilogy, I think that I didn't like it enough to waste my time watching the other movies, especially considering that the Star Wars fanbase is pretty toxic.
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Post by Martin Stett on Jul 23, 2021 23:32:03 GMT
Thanks to everyone who answered my question. After reading the answers I came to the conclusion that I don't want to watch the other Star Wars movies anymore, there are a total of 11 movies, plus several TV series (live action or animated), although I liked the main trilogy, I think that I didn't like it enough to waste my time watching the other movies, especially considering that the Star Wars fanbase is pretty toxic. Oh, don't label it toxic on my account. I'm just spirited in general.
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