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Post by hugobolso on Jul 2, 2021 18:38:49 GMT
She was a promising young lolita in the late 90s and early 00s. Her best year was 2003 when she realesed the refreshing romatic commedy how to loose a guy in 10 days, and specially in the forgotten Gem Le Divorce directed by James Ivory, where she was not only much better than he co-lead Naomi Watts, but much better than the multiple Oscar, Golden Globe and Cesar Nominee or Winner cast (Leslie Caron, Glenn Close, Melvil Poupaud,Thierry Lhermitte, Stockard Channing, Matthew Mondine, Romain Duris, Sam Westerton, Bebe Neuwirth. Stephen Fry). There she portray the younger almost teen younger sister who is delighted by the Rich French Lifestyle, in that commedy she shows all her acting skills combining her commedy abbilities with her more dramatic ones, and her sexier ones also.- But then she had a huge downhill in terms of box office, critics reviews, and film quality (You, me and Dupree, Fool's Gold, Bride Wars).- From Critical Darling to Razzie OneAnd the promising Academy Nominee actress from almost famous (she almost won that Oscar, she lost because Hollywood at that year decided that was tired of Nepotism) become a joke. From being the better version of Goldie Hawn, she become a bad pantomime of her mother.- While most of nowatadays actresses finds jobs on series, streaming and TV, because they have not the same opportunities in films, and that's includes much bigger blondes stars like Jennifer Aniston (The Morning Show), Drew Barrymore (The Drew Barrymore Show) or Gwyneth Paltrow (The Polititian), she still continue to be cast in big movies, despite the fact of not having a big hit since 2006.- She is right now filming the sequel of Knives Outs.- Is because of nepotism, is because she is a talented and extremely underated actress who deserves a McConaissance, is she producing her own movies?
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Post by hugobolso on Jul 2, 2021 18:42:37 GMT
4 Razzie nominations including one win for Sia's music. is this movie that bad?
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Post by TerryMontana on Jul 2, 2021 18:55:53 GMT
Don't know if you've heard but she's an actress. Maybe that's why.
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Post by hugobolso on Jul 2, 2021 19:07:22 GMT
Don't know if you've heard but she's an actress. Maybe that's why. I mean in Big Hollywood Films.-
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Post by countjohn on Jul 2, 2021 19:32:32 GMT
Nepotism, being hot, and still riding that Oscar nod and ascended classic status for Almost Famous
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Post by thomasjerome on Jul 2, 2021 19:49:52 GMT
What big Hollywood films exactly? Being a part of a large ensemble of "Knives Out 2" or thankless wife part in "Deepwater Horizon", starring Kurt? Or is "Music" really a big Hollywood picture? Most of her stardom lies in studio romantic comedies because they actually do make money. "Bride Wars" and "You, Me and Dupree" were no big flops or anything. They all did enough business. It's not like she's leading some major films right now.
She couldn't use the goodwill she has from "Almost Famous" to become a bigger star, it's true. Her prestige film attempts failed and since "How To Lose a Guy in Ten Days" was a big hit, she spent rest of her career with doing mostly basic rom-coms but she has enough of star quality. Talent is definitely there, somewhat diverse also (comparing "Skeleton Key" to "Dr. T & the Women"). Then she's charming, charismatic and gorgeous looking. Nepotism might play a part too but she's usually an underrated actress with an appealing screen presence.
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Post by Pittsnogle_Goggins on Jul 2, 2021 19:55:37 GMT
She’s not
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Post by hugobolso on Jul 2, 2021 19:57:16 GMT
Nepotism, being hot, and still riding that Oscar nod and ascended classic status for Almost Famous Is Almost Famous a classic? I have my doubts,because wasn't that big hit at the box office, didn't help any of the stars (except Hudson, Mc Dormand and Paquin were Oscar winners actress at the time, is another cathegory) and the director Cameron Crowe, well he isn't David Fincher, that after The Fight Club, that wasn't a hit at the Box Office, the he trully become praised by critics and audiences, was in a severe decline after almost famous. He had luckwarms reviews in Vainilla Sky (despite performed descently at box office) and critical and financial flops in his next few films until now (Elizabeth Town, We Bought a Zoo, Aloha).- Don't get me wrong is a great movie with a great cast, but a classic?
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Post by hugobolso on Jul 2, 2021 20:10:45 GMT
What big Hollywood films exactly? Being a part of a large ensemble of "Knives Out 2" or thankless wife part in "Deepwater Horizon", starring Kurt? Or is "Music" really a big Hollywood picture? Most of her stardom lies in studio romantic comedies because they actually do make money. "Bride Wars" and "You, Me and Dupree" were no big flops or anything. They all did enough business. It's not like she's leading some major films right now. She couldn't use the goodwill she has from "Almost Famous" to become a bigger star, it's true. Her prestige film attempts failed and since "How To Lose a Guy in Ten Days" was a big hit, she spent rest of her career with doing mostly basic rom-coms but she has enough of star quality. Talent is definitely there, somewhat diverse also (comparing "Skeleton Key" to "Dr. T & the Women"). Then she's charming, charismatic and gorgeous looking. Nepotism might play a part too but she's usually an underrated actress with an appealing screen presence. Good Point, I mean actresses around more or less her age and critical praise or stardom in the late 90s and early 2000s, like Reese Witherspoon, Jennifer Aniston, Samantha Morton, Drew Barrymore, Cameron Diaz, Anna Paquin, Anne Hathaway, Michelle Williams, Kirsten Dunst, Gwyneth Paltrow, Charlize Theron, Penelope Cruz, Naomi Watts maybe even Scarlet Johannsen or Cate Blanchett or Kate Winslet.-
And I'm talking about luckily awarded actresses, this list could be extent to several promising actresses, that never had the opportunitie of being in a big Hit like How too loose or the praise of Almost famous like Julia Stiles, Anna Faris, Fairuza Balk, Neve Campbell, Gretchen Moll etc.-
Of course Johansen is everywhere, and Witherspoon produce her own flix, but even Witherspoon has to work in TV. And I'm talking just the most notorious awarded critical darlings.
Where is Naomi Watts right now? Doing small and insignificant mother and wives roles on Hollywood movies, and more sustantial ones in England and Australia.-
The main exceptions are Scarlet Johansen and Angelina Jolie, because both have leads on Superheroes/Fantasy/Scify actions movies that were trully big hits.-
Nicole Kidman, Kate Winslet and Cate Blanchett despite of having a large agenda in three film Centres (Hollywood, London and Sidney) has to do TV Miniseries.- American Sweethearts Julia Roberts and Amy Adams too, Roberts had played the mom in her last films like Sandra Bullock!!!
Is Hudson in the same (or almost) cathegory of Roberts, Bullock, Hathaway, Aniston, Winslet, Kidman, Adams etc? blond actress level of Williams, Theron, Aniston, Barrymore, Diaz, Dunst, Morton, Diaz retired etc.-
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Post by pacinoyes on Jul 2, 2021 20:31:56 GMT
Nepotism, being hot, and still riding that Oscar nod and ascended classic status for Almost Famous Is Almost Famous a classic?Not only is it among my personal most overrated movies ever made ...........a particularly limp Rock and Roll movie which is kind of my area of expertise yanno........I've said this a lot - little Cameron Crowe got to follow Zep around and THAT'S the movie he came up with? Don't even get me started on Cameron Crowe because I once called Robert Zemeckis "middlebrow" on MAR (he obviously is) and people were like "Wah, wah, wah you can't say that, he made Contact" or some bullsh it - that's not what I said - I said he's middlebrow - you can be middlebrow and make Contact ............they aren't mutually exclusive ........and he's Kieslowski compared to Crowe, ok? What was my point? Oh right, Crowe re-imagined his exciting, fascinating, one in a billion life as a teen as exactly the same as boring kid in Bumblefnck, Indiana.............I never got anything about Kate Hudson ............she can't act, her ex-husbands band sucked, I never liked her Mom either, I was never attracted to Kate Hudson (or her Mom) ......I don't think she's that hot ......she looked like a porn star who wasn't even one of the better looking porn stars of the 2005- era which was not a particularly pretty porn star era - I've researched this entire era, ok?.........I won't list the porn stars name but look it up people The best thing about her is her stepdad ........now everybody's entitled to the own opinion of course but pacinoyes feels sometimes you have to go scorched Earth on here yanno.......... respectfully dissenting on everything ftw
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Post by HELENA MARIA on Jul 2, 2021 20:48:56 GMT
Is Almost Famous a classic? Not only is it among my personal most overrated movies ever made ...........a particularly limp Rock and Roll movie which is kind of my area of expertise yanno........I've said this a lot - little Cameron Crowe got to follow Zep around and THAT'S the movie he came up with? Don't even get me started on Cameron Crowe because I once called Robert Zemeckis "middlebrow" on MAR (he obviously is) and people were like "Wah, wah, wah you can't say that, he made Contact" or some bullsh it - that's not what I said - I said he's middlebrow - you can be middlebrow and make Contact ............they aren't mutually exclusive ........and he's Kieslowski compared to Crowe, ok? What was my point? Oh right, Crowe re-imagined his exciting, fascinating, one in a billion life as a teen as exactly the same as boring kid in Bumblefnck, Indiana.............I never got anything about Kate Hudson ............she can't act, her ex-husbands band sucked, I never liked her Mom either, I was never attracted to Kate Hudson (or her Mom) ......I don't think she's that hot ......she looked like a porn star who wasn't even one of the better looking porn stars of the 2005- era which was not a particularly pretty porn star era - I've researched this entire era, ok?.........I won't list the porn stars name but look it up people The best thing about her is her stepdad ........now everybody's entitled to the own opinion of course but pacinoyes feels sometimes you have to go scorched Earth on here yanno.......... respectfully dissenting on everything ftw Amen ! Who doesn't love Kurt Russell ?
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Post by hugobolso on Jul 2, 2021 22:22:42 GMT
Is Almost Famous a classic? Not only is it among my personal most overrated movies ever made ...........a particularly limp Rock and Roll movie which is kind of my area of expertise yanno........I've said this a lot - little Cameron Crowe got to follow Zep around and THAT'S the movie he came up with? Don't even get me started on Cameron Crowe because I once called Robert Zemeckis "middlebrow" on MAR (he obviously is) and people were like "Wah, wah, wah you can't say that, he made Contact" or some bullsh it - that's not what I said - I said he's middlebrow - you can be middlebrow and make Contact ............they aren't mutually exclusive ........and he's Kieslowski compared to Crowe, ok? What was my point? Oh right, Crowe re-imagined his exciting, fascinating, one in a billion life as a teen as exactly the same as boring kid in Bumblefnck, Indiana.............I never got anything about Kate Hudson ............she can't act, her ex-husbands band sucked, I never liked her Mom either, I was never attracted to Kate Hudson (or her Mom) ......I don't think she's that hot ......she looked like a porn star who wasn't even one of the better looking porn stars of the 2005- era which was not a particularly pretty porn star era - I've researched this entire era, ok?.........I won't list the porn stars name but look it up people The best thing about her is her stepdad ........now everybody's entitled to the own opinion of course but pacinoyes feels sometimes you have to go scorched Earth on here yanno.......... respectfully dissenting on everything ftw Crowe, Hudso, her mother and Zemekins in the same sentence. You are the king.- Yep I remember Kurt Russell Disney films in my childhood, he is the king for making the transition from kid to granpa, very charismatic, Kurt and Dennis Quaid are probably the most underated actors in Hollywood.-
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Post by countjohn on Jul 3, 2021 15:37:57 GMT
Nepotism, being hot, and still riding that Oscar nod and ascended classic status for Almost Famous Is Almost Famous a classic? I have my doubts,because wasn't that big hit at the box office That's why I said "ascended" classic. It was not a big success at the time but has become very well regarded and popular since.
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Post by hugobolso on Jul 3, 2021 15:55:07 GMT
Is Almost Famous a classic? I have my doubts,because wasn't that big hit at the box office That's why I said "ascended" classic. It was not a big success at the time but has become very well regarded and popular since. Yep, I know, the question, is that I thought that was a little forgotten, so I thought is more in the cathegory of Forgotten Gem than a Classic. Even when definitive isn't a forgotten Gem. Because is still remember, and even when it wasn't a success at box office, wasn't a bomb,or a film that were watched by 5 cinephiles.- So the next Question, if a Forgotten Gem could be a Classic? Or is the opposite?
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Post by pupdurcs on Jul 3, 2021 16:08:44 GMT
Not a single person claimed Robert Zemeckis wasn't "middlebrow" because he made Contact.
At least some people claimed that the fact that he made arguably the greatest trilogy in film history (Back To The Future) means calling him a "middlebrow hack" makes you a fucking idiot. If you want to die on certain hills, then go for it. But don't cry when everyone else calls you a fool for dying on that hill. Own it and move on.
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Post by franklin on Jul 3, 2021 16:22:49 GMT
Because she's hot and talented.
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Post by pacinoyes on Jul 3, 2021 16:28:13 GMT
"Not a single person claimed Robert Zemeckis wasn't "middlebrow" because he made Contact." Triggered much?
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Post by pupdurcs on Jul 3, 2021 16:35:17 GMT
"Not a single person claimed Robert Zemeckis wasn't "middlebrow" because he made Contact." Triggered much? Considering you are the one bringing up an old ass conversation about Zemeckis that must be at least 2 years old ( ?) because several people on that thread called out your description of him as moronic, I'd say the person most "Triggered" here is you . That shit must have burned your soul for you to still be randomly going on about it. But keep going bro...I feel like we are all dying to hear again how the Back To The Future trilogy is the work of a "middlebrow hack ". This should be fun
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Post by pacinoyes on Jul 3, 2021 16:44:37 GMT
"Considering you are the one bringing up an old ass conversation about Zemeckis that must be at least 2 years old (?)"
It was October 2020.
I know you are not too good at math since you think Denzel Washington has a BAFTA nomination.......but alas, not yet ....
I think Robert Zemeckis is a middle brow hack - you liked American Skin - I don't bother you about it do I?
Leave me alone stalker / weirdo......
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Post by hugobolso on Jul 3, 2021 16:48:55 GMT
Oh this looks like the 90s, one thing is make art and other craft, a guy who can make great commercial films, and other totally diferent is an auteur even in commercial films like Tarantino or Spielberg.-
I don't think Zemekis or Ron Howard (I usually confuse both) or Cameron Crowe are auteurs.-
Any way, this is about Kate Hudson, I guess her younger step brother is the talent of the family.-
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Post by pupdurcs on Jul 3, 2021 16:52:08 GMT
I think Robert Zemeckis is a middle brow hack -
And I think it's a moronic opinion to hold. One you are free to have and shout from the rooftops as much as you like, but you can't complain when people choose(strongly) to disagree. That is the trade-off of forums like this. And I think Zemeckis has become wildly inconsistent and made some bad/mediocre movies while taking some huge risks (ie his MoCap era). But no one who has done what he's done in his career can ever be fairly called a "middlebrow hack". My opinion. The end. Y'all can go back to dismissing Hudson. I don't feel strongly enough about her to put up a fight there
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Post by hugobolso on Jul 3, 2021 17:01:22 GMT
I think Robert Zemeckis is a middle brow hack -
And I think it's a moronic opinion to hold. One you are free to have and shout from the rooftops as much as you like, but you can't complain when people choose(strongly) to disagree. That is the trade-off of forums like this. And I think Zemeckis has become wildly inconsistent and made some bad/mediocre movies while taking some huge risks (ie his MoCap era). But no one who has done what he's done in his career can ever be fairly called a "middlebrow hack". My opinion. The end. Y'all can go back to dismissing Hudson. I don't feel strongly enough about her to put up a fight there What middlebrow hack actually means?, because I think in Emily in Paris, every time I've read this phrase
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Post by hugobolso on Jul 3, 2021 17:08:12 GMT
Any way, returning to the whole point, I guess Kate Hudson never was better than in Le Divorce Trully James Ivory with the proper material (sometimes is trully bad), could do miracles with actors.-
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Post by therealcomicman117 on Jul 3, 2021 18:06:09 GMT
Not a single person claimed Robert Zemeckis wasn't "middlebrow" because he made Contact.At least some people claimed that the fact that he made arguably the greatest trilogy in film history (Back To The Future) means calling him a "middlebrow hack" makes you a fucking idiot. If you want to die on certain hills, then go for it. But don't cry when everyone else calls you a fool for dying on that hill. Own it and move on. Yeah, not to derail the conversation in general, but even if you don't like Zemeckis or his cinema, calling him a hack is a bit "unfair" or "complicated". Even if I think he's lost the plot over the years, the dude has done a lot for movies in general, that it's hard to not look as anything but a significant figure in the industry.
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Post by pacinoyes on Jul 3, 2021 18:31:46 GMT
.......but even if you don't like Zemeckis or his cinema, calling him a hack is a bit "unfair" or "complicated""
If it wasn't complicated then he'd be a low-brow hack..........he fits very comfortably in the exact definition of the term.........it's perfectly "fair".
I do like some films he made btw.....
adjective: middle-brow, see: Robert Zemeckis (of art or literature or a system of thought) demanding or involving only a moderate degree of intellectual application, typically as a result of not deviating from convention.
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