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Post by franklin on Jun 12, 2021 18:25:10 GMT
Are there any actors you used to like, love, or even admire and now you just don't, or you even hate now?? Go.
I'll start: I liked Samuel L. Jackson as an actor.
I used to think he had a cool personality and talent, now as I am older, seeing some of his interviews and his attitude, I see him as an incredibly arrogant and deeply insecure person who thinks to be a way better and more versatile actor than he actually is. Also a huge hypocrite, he once said how winning Oscars is not important to him and he doesn't care about campaigning, and then as soon as he had an opportunity, he was shamelessly campaigning everywhere for The Hateful Eight. So that's my pick.
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Post by Nikan on Jun 12, 2021 18:51:53 GMT
Johnny Depp.
Like many people my generation I imagine... he was more than a unique and exciting movie star.... or a creative actor. He is one of the reasons I fell in love with this damned medium in the first place.
A good number of his works hold up and I don't feel even close to "hating" him... but these past ten years have been absolutely disheartening.
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Post by pacinoyes on Jun 12, 2021 19:07:35 GMT
I think the obvious one for me to the point where this board can't stand it when I bring it up because it's become repetitive (and yet.......does that ever stop me? ) is Russell Crowe ......he was a great actor for 10 years....from about 1991-2001 .......I love that work.......I haven't really liked him in anything since......and he has a big mouth (you wish you were De Niro, fat-ass)....and I don't find him cool either.....I find him a lazy actor for a long time, and a boring dick as a person - his decline dovetailed with his (gross) affair with (gross) Meg Ryan - mother of two, wife of Dennis Quaid - who ran around with him like a 16 year old boy crazy schoolgirl who just got felt up at the high school gym...... "America's Sweetheart" yeah right ...... I still say that for me he dropped off as an actor before the age of 40 - that's really early and yet.....I'm the only who says it for some reason........but ......like I said a great 10 years for me.....
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Post by mikediastavrone96 on Jun 12, 2021 19:22:37 GMT
I think the obvious one for me to the point where this board can't stand it when I bring it up because it's become repetitive (and yet.......does that ever stop me? ) I loved that As for this topic, is it too on-the-nose to say Kevin Spacey?
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Post by TerryMontana on Jun 12, 2021 19:25:44 GMT
Depp is the obvious answer for me.
Plus, I used to think very highly of Edward Norton but not anymore.
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Post by stephen on Jun 12, 2021 19:27:50 GMT
Robert De Niro.
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Post by sirchuck23 on Jun 12, 2021 20:31:24 GMT
Tom "Capone" Hardy
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Post by therealcomicman117 on Jun 12, 2021 20:54:43 GMT
John Cusack comes to mind. I used to be a big fan of a lot of his older films (Grosse Pointe Blank what a picture), and still watch and enjoy those movies, and occasionally he can pull a good one out, but ever since he hit the VOD redbox action hell, it feels like he's even not trying, or he's trying too much.
If anything, I'm more a fan of his political beliefs, then anything to do with the movies that he's starring in these days.
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Post by pupdurcs on Jun 12, 2021 21:01:30 GMT
John Cusack comes to mind. I used to be a big fan of a lot of his older films ( Grosse Point Blank what a picture), and still watch and enjoy those movies, and occasionally he can pull a good one out, but ever since he hit the VOD redbox action hell, it feels like he's even not trying, or he's trying too much. If anything, I'm more a fan of his political beliefs, then anything to do with the movies that he's starring in these days. Man, Cusack's decline was just sad. He was so well regarded, so well respected and seemed to have such good taste in projects...then he just fell down a rabbit hole of VOD hell and never managed to crawl out of it. I was a big fan going all the way back to his 1980's teen movies like The Sure Thing and Say Anything. Just an incredibly likable screen presence. He must have had trouble making and keeping friends in Hollywood for his career to go south like it did almost overnight.
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Post by therealcomicman117 on Jun 12, 2021 21:52:12 GMT
John Cusack comes to mind. I used to be a big fan of a lot of his older films ( Grosse Point Blank what a picture), and still watch and enjoy those movies, and occasionally he can pull a good one out, but ever since he hit the VOD redbox action hell, it feels like he's even not trying, or he's trying too much. If anything, I'm more a fan of his political beliefs, then anything to do with the movies that he's starring in these days. Man, Cusack's decline was just sad. He was so well regarded, so well respected and seemed to have such good taste in projects...then he just fell down a rabbit hole of VOD hell and never managed to crawl out of it. I was a big fan going all the way back to his 1980's teen movies like The Sure Thing and Say Anything. Just an incredibly likable screen presence. He must have had trouble making and keeping friends in Hollywood for his career to go south like it did almost overnight. Supposedly he had a bit of an ego / pain in the ass attitude to him, that made a lot of people in the industry quite warry of him. When he had a major flop in The Raven in 2012, Hollywood in general was very quick to throw him to the wolves. It was just kinda tragic to see happen in real time. I remember following his career around that time, and when the generic sounding films just started popping up one by one, I knew there was something wrong.
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Post by futuretrunks on Jun 12, 2021 22:04:03 GMT
I won't say I don't like him anymore, as he's still megatalented (and I thought he was excellent in Mank), but I don't like how much garbage Oldman does these days, and that he doesn't do as many "out there" performances as he did in that 1986-2000 period. Similar story with Nicolas Cage.
I agree about Norton's slide into irrelevance being unfortunate.
I've lost interest in Joaquin, who (excluding the processing scene) I haven't been whole-heartedly impressed with since Two Lovers, which was 13 years ago.
I think Julianne Moore has squandered many years.
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Post by morton on Jun 12, 2021 22:05:51 GMT
Man, Cusack's decline was just sad. He was so well regarded, so well respected and seemed to have such good taste in projects...then he just fell down a rabbit hole of VOD hell and never managed to crawl out of it. I was a big fan going all the way back to his 1980's teen movies like The Sure Thing and Say Anything. Just an incredibly likable screen presence. He must have had trouble making and keeping friends in Hollywood for his career to go south like it did almost overnight. Supposedly he had a bit of an ego / pain in the ass attitude to him, that made a lot of people in the industry quite warry of him. When he had a major flop in The Raven in 2012, Hollywood in general was very quick to throw him to the wolves. It was just kinda tragic to see happen in real time. I remember following his career around that time, and when the generic sounding films just started popping up one by one, I knew there was something wrong. Not related to the original topic, I wonder if his sister also has a reputation for being difficult, or if her work also slowed down because she’s related to him, or because she got older. I know she still works steadily, but for such a scene stealer, I thought she’d be more in demand and be in bigger projects over the past couple of decades.
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Post by therealcomicman117 on Jun 12, 2021 22:12:57 GMT
Supposedly he had a bit of an ego / pain in the ass attitude to him, that made a lot of people in the industry quite warry of him. When he had a major flop in The Raven in 2012, Hollywood in general was very quick to throw him to the wolves. It was just kinda tragic to see happen in real time. I remember following his career around that time, and when the generic sounding films just started popping up one by one, I knew there was something wrong. Not related to the original topic, I wonder if his sister also has a reputation for being difficult, or if her work also slowed down because she’s related to him, or because she got older. I know she still works steadily, but for such a scene stealer, I thought she’d be more in demand and be in bigger projects over the past couple of decades. I assume Shameless took up a lot of her time in the past decade but when I looked it up, she was only on that program for four years. It is weird how less how profile some of her work has been. Like her brother John, she doesn't really anything major lined-up either, last thing she was in, was the Julia Roberts show Homecoming. I can't imagine she's that much of an ass to work (although I should never be surprised), so maybe she's just not getting very many good offers.
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Post by thomasjerome on Jun 12, 2021 22:34:46 GMT
Yeah, has to be Depp.
I was never a big fan of his but his work in the 90s was often interesting, intriguing, amusing ("Benny and Joon") and sometimes truly great ("Ed Wood"). His 21st century output is just not for me. These days he's one of my least favourite actors and it can be a total torture to watch him "act".
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Post by sirchuck23 on Jun 13, 2021 3:20:12 GMT
John Cusack comes to mind. I used to be a big fan of a lot of his older films ( Grosse Pointe Blank what a picture), and still watch and enjoy those movies, and occasionally he can pull a good one out, but ever since he hit the VOD redbox action hell, it feels like he's even not trying, or he's trying too much. If anything, I'm more a fan of his political beliefs, then anything to do with the movies that he's starring in these days.
Yeah his career decline is unfortunate. I thought he was really strong in his supporting part in Chi-Raq especially the funeral sermon scene, but yeah he's stuck in VOD Redbox action hell..smh.
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Post by therealcomicman117 on Jun 13, 2021 3:45:19 GMT
John Cusack comes to mind. I used to be a big fan of a lot of his older films ( Grosse Pointe Blank what a picture), and still watch and enjoy those movies, and occasionally he can pull a good one out, but ever since he hit the VOD redbox action hell, it feels like he's even not trying, or he's trying too much. If anything, I'm more a fan of his political beliefs, then anything to do with the movies that he's starring in these days.
Yeah his career decline is unfortunate. I thought he was really strong in his supporting part in Chi-Raq especially the funeral sermon scene, but yeah he's stuck in VOD Redbox action hell..smh.
Looks like he's slowed down recently at least. Only thing he has lined up is some comedy with J.K. Simmons apparently. Nowadays he's more of a Twitter presence then a film one, which is a shame, as at his peak, I always enjoyed when he did something. I just hope he gets involved with some great directors, those kinds of films are sadly few and far between for him.
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Post by jakesully on Jun 13, 2021 15:24:04 GMT
Johnny Depp. Like many people my generation I imagine... he was more than a unique and exciting movie star.... or a creative actor. He is one of the reasons I fell in love with this damned medium in the first place. A good number of his works hold up and I don't feel even close to "hating" him... but these past ten years have been absolutely disheartening. Completely agree with your choice regarding Depp. I was a big fan of him in the 90s and the early 2000s (I grew up on his movies and thought he was great in Donnie Brasco, Fear & Loathing in Las Vegas, Blow and of course the 1st Pirates film). He is now (sad to say) a totally washed up has been actor. A flat out train wreck and hasn't been in anything remotely interesting in quite some time. I do honestly hope he gets his life back together and turns it around.
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Post by getclutch on Jun 13, 2021 17:34:12 GMT
John Cusack comes to mind. I used to be a big fan of a lot of his older films ( Grosse Pointe Blank what a picture), and still watch and enjoy those movies, and occasionally he can pull a good one out, but ever since he hit the VOD redbox action hell, it feels like he's even not trying, or he's trying too much. If anything, I'm more a fan of his political beliefs, then anything to do with the movies that he's starring in these days. Agreed. I still love the guy. I know he did lobby very hard for the lead role in The Matrix therefore he was trying back then. Now? Not so much. Makes me wish he were Tony Stark. I can see him doing it, no problem.
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Post by rhodoraonline on Jun 14, 2021 0:34:24 GMT
John Cusack never had the mixture of gravitas, snobbishness, and snark required for Tony Stark, though...
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Post by stephen on Jun 14, 2021 17:10:13 GMT
It's not quite the same, because I can't say I loved them at the outset, but I have really gotten to hate Mark Ruffalo and Steve Carell whenever I see them in something. Ruffalo's proving to be an incredibly limited actor whose histrionics are some of the worst I've ever seen a name actor indulge in, and Carell I find to have a rather odious presence outside of a narrow field. Go figure they would both be in Foxcatcher, which admittedly is a film that actually uses Ruffalo well, but Carell takes it down a peg from perfection.
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Post by wallsofjericho on Jun 14, 2021 17:39:45 GMT
It's not quite the same, because I can't say I loved them at the outset, but I have really gotten to hate Mark Ruffalo and Steve Carell whenever I see them in something. Ruffalo's proving to be an incredibly limited actor whose histrionics are some of the worst I've ever seen a name actor indulge in, and Carell I find to have a rather odious presence outside of a narrow field. Go figure they would both be in Foxcatcher, which admittedly is a film that actually uses Ruffalo well, but Carell takes it down a peg from perfection. I remember on the old movie boards a lot of people used to praise Ruffalo for being so naturalistic and effortless in his acting. I like him but Spotlight highlights his worst tendancies. Agreed on Carell, I just can't take him seriously in dramas.
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Post by stephen on Jun 14, 2021 18:01:35 GMT
It's not quite the same, because I can't say I loved them at the outset, but I have really gotten to hate Mark Ruffalo and Steve Carell whenever I see them in something. Ruffalo's proving to be an incredibly limited actor whose histrionics are some of the worst I've ever seen a name actor indulge in, and Carell I find to have a rather odious presence outside of a narrow field. Go figure they would both be in Foxcatcher, which admittedly is a film that actually uses Ruffalo well, but Carell takes it down a peg from perfection. I remember on the old movie boards a lot of people used to praise Ruffalo for being so naturalistic and effortless in his acting. I like him but Spotlight highlights his worst tendancies. Agreed on Carell, I just can't take him seriously in dramas. I think the thing that bugs me most about them is that they have a similar sort of (for lack of a better term) smugness that permeates their work. And Ruffalo has become so self-aware in the last decade; it's remarkable how regressive I find him as a performer. Spotlight is Razzie-level stuff and I think he is unwatchable in The Normal Heart, and I even find his Bruce Banner irritating whenever he's on-screen. And Carell's brand of comedy has never really done it for me; I actually think his work on The Office is intolerably annoying (and I get that it's the character, but I absolutely loathe Michael Scott and Carell didn't endear him to me one bit). He can be fine in dramas or dark comedies, but it always seems so performative and distractingly so.
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Post by SZilla on Jun 14, 2021 18:26:30 GMT
I don't dislike him but I used to be really excited about Joseph Gordon-Levitt and his career. He had a really great run where I felt that he was easily one of the top 3 talents of his generation between 2001 starting with Manic to about 2012-2013 or so. I know that he started to really focus on his HitRecord thing (which got him a couple of Emmys) and he got married and started a family, but his choices post 2013 have been disappointing to say the least.
2014 had the Sin City sequel which came about 5 years too late. 2015 had The Walk which was actually pretty good and a stupid Seth Rogen comedy. 2016 had Snowden which I didn't see but never jumped out as essential viewing. He's then had minor voice roles in Rain Johnson films, a couple of minor films that came and went, and a good turn in a nothing role in Chicago 7.
I still admire his talent but his career hasn't been too exciting this past decade and it's been hella disappointing.
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Post by pupdurcs on Jun 14, 2021 18:42:37 GMT
Joseph Gordon Levitt is interesting, because he was always someone I was never quite sure if he was just a solid actor or if he was potentially a generational talent. I think time has shown he's closer to the former than the latter, but there was a freewheeling intensity to his work for a period where you wondered if he had the potential to be a truly major film talent along the lines of his 10 Things I Hate About You co-star, Heath Ledger.
I was impressed by him in things like Looper, where he was doing things to mimic the mannerisms of a younger Bruce Willis, and it made me wonder if he had that transformative talent like Ledger, but it never really materialised.
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Post by wallsofjericho on Jun 14, 2021 18:43:17 GMT
I remember on the old movie boards a lot of people used to praise Ruffalo for being so naturalistic and effortless in his acting. I like him but Spotlight highlights his worst tendancies. Agreed on Carell, I just can't take him seriously in dramas. I think the thing that bugs me most about them is that they have a similar sort of (for lack of a better term) smugness that permeates their work. And Ruffalo has become so self-aware in the last decade; it's remarkable how regressive I find him as a performer. Spotlight is Razzie-level stuff and I think he is unwatchable in The Normal Heart, and I even find his Bruce Banner irritating whenever he's on-screen. And Carell's brand of comedy has never really done it for me; I actually think his work on The Office is intolerably annoying (and I get that it's the character, but I absolutely loathe Michael Scott and Carell didn't endear him to me one bit). He can be fine in dramas or dark comedies, but it always seems so performative and distractingly so. I always found there to be an 'actorly' feel about Ruffalo even in his most loved work like You Can Count on Me especially in contrast to Linney. I do think he's genuinely great in Foxcatcher but that's the only time I forgot it was Ruffalo on screen and he actually felt like the person he was playing. I much prefer Ricky Gervais's David Brent over Carrell's Michael Scott.
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