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Post by wilcinema on Jul 25, 2021 14:18:11 GMT
Netflix will bring Sorrentino, Campion, Dominik.
The only US directors should be Schrader and Amirpour.
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Post by mhynson27 on Jul 25, 2021 14:18:53 GMT
There's no way Don't Look Up is going to Venice. The reason one person has dubbed it 'Netflix's Venice' is because of The Power of the Dog, Blonde, The Hand of God, and the rumour that The Lost Daughter has been acquired by them.
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Post by omarfr9 on Jul 25, 2021 18:26:53 GMT
I doubt Nightmare Alley will do any festival, not just Venice. I agree but I think there’s still a chance, the movie could be ready by September and heard a rumor a couple of weeks ago that one between Nightmare Alley and Macbeth was going to Venice. The latter will have its world premiere in New York so I guess Del Toro might go to Venice.
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Post by wilcinema on Jul 25, 2021 18:35:17 GMT
I doubt Nightmare Alley will do any festival, not just Venice. I agree but I think there’s still a chance, the movie could be ready by September and heard a rumor a couple of weeks ago that one between Nightmare Alley and Macbeth was going to Venice. The latter will have its world premiere in New York so I guess Del Toro might go to Venice. Let’s hope! Barbera certainly hoped to have another big world premiere after Dune and he tried everything to get Del Toro and PTA but, based on what I’ve heard, he’s been unlucky. But he always gives us surprises.
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Post by omarfr9 on Jul 25, 2021 18:59:27 GMT
I agree but I think there’s still a chance, the movie could be ready by September and heard a rumor a couple of weeks ago that one between Nightmare Alley and Macbeth was going to Venice. The latter will have its world premiere in New York so I guess Del Toro might go to Venice. Let’s hope! Barbera certainly hoped to have another big world premiere after Dune and he tried everything to get Del Toro and PTA but, based on what I’ve heard, he’s been unlucky. But he always gives us surprises. I expect some surprises tomorrow, but I doubt any of them will be about an American production, maybe Kore’eda, Park, Escalante, Martel, Alonso or Claire Denis have already completed their movies.
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Post by wilcinema on Jul 26, 2021 9:18:18 GMT
OUT OF COMPETITION The Last Duel Dune Halloween Kills Last Night In Soho
COMPETITION Parallel Mothers - Pedro Almodovar Mona Lisa and The Blood Moon - Ana Lily Amirpour Another World - Stephan Brizé The Power of The Dog - Jane Campion America Latina - Fabio and Damiano D'Innocenzo The Happening - Audrey Diwan Official Competition - Gaston Duprat and Mariano Cohn Il Buco - Michelangelo Frammartino Sundown - Michel Franco Lost Illusions - Xavier Giannoli The Lost Daughter - Maggie Gyllenhall Spencer - Pablo Larrain
Freaks Out - Gabriele Mainetti Qui Rido Io - Mario Martone On The Job: The Missing 8 - Erik Matti
Leave No Traces - Jan Matuszynski Captain Volkogonov Escaped - Natasha Merkulova and Aleksey Chupov The Card Counter - Paul Schrader The Hand of God - Paolo Sorrentino Reflection - Valentin Vasyanovych The Box - Lorenzo Vigas
And that's a wrap. The big surprise is no Blonde.
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Post by franklin on Jul 26, 2021 10:58:07 GMT
Netflix's Venice my ass.
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Post by pacinoyes on Jul 26, 2021 11:20:35 GMT
If you want to look at this as a "who's winning Best Actor" - whoever can win this particular Volpi Cup is fascinating wrinkle in this years race.......this year if it's one of the 3 guys from the films below - it may solidify one guys chance to win the Oscar (Cumberbatch) or be a breakthrough nod for the other 2 guys - one of whom - the great Toni Servillo (The Hand of God) is an Italian legend at this point and may pull an Isabelle Huppert nod..... If you look at the Best Actor nominee predictions it's the same small group of big guys (Cumberbatch, Washington, Smith, Bale (maybe?), DiCaprio, Cooper etc)......I don't know anything BUT I can assure you it will not be ALL big guys like that ....and this may be our first sign of something to read about the race......... Cumberbatch below - first shot btw...... COMPETITION The Power of The Dog - Jane Campion The Card Counter - Paul Schrader The Hand of God - Paolo Sorrentino
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Post by wilcinema on Jul 26, 2021 11:23:27 GMT
Well apparently Cumberbatch is terrific, and for the Volpi, Barbera specifically praised Elio Germano for the D’Innocenzo film.
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Post by pacinoyes on Jul 26, 2021 11:29:36 GMT
Btw not sure why but Kodi Smit-McPhee's name like that makes me think (hope?) that Campion shot the book - because if she shot the book - he is the BSA Oscar nominee from this movie - not Plemons (who I like a lot, but who doesn't really have the memorable role like Smit-McPhee does imo).......I mean you never know, but ...........just gazing into my crystal ball........
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Post by mhynson27 on Jul 26, 2021 12:38:12 GMT
'Netflix's Venice' was a bit of a silly statement, but they still have a decent presence with 3 films in competition (if the rumour is true).
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Post by morton on Jul 26, 2021 12:52:26 GMT
If you want to look at this as a "who's winning Best Actor" - whoever can win this particular Volpi Cup is fascinating wrinkle in this years race.......this year if it's one of the 3 guys from the films below - it may solidify one guys chance to win the Oscar (Cumberbatch) or be a breakthrough nod for the other 2 guys - one of whom - the great Toni Servillo (The Hand of God) is an Italian legend at this point and may pull an Isabelle Huppert nod..... If you look at the Best Actor nominee predictions it's the same small group of big guys (Cumberbatch, Washington, Smith, Bale (maybe?), DiCaprio, Cooper etc)......I don't know anything BUT I can assure you it will not be ALL big guys like that ....and this may be our first sign of something to read about the race......... Cumberbatch below - first shot btw...... COMPETITION The Power of The Dog - Jane Campion The Card Counter - Paul Schrader The Hand of God - Paolo Sorrentino
He’s been in my top 10, but I wasn’t sure where to put him in my top 5. I’m definitely making for The Power of the Dog and Cumberbatch now though especially after reading major tea about it. People have seen DiCaprio and Smith, so I think they’re in based on early word. Shockingly someone with very close ties to Cannes and Venice just said that the Coen is not very good. I still think Washington is in, but that might explain why there’s been a lot of buzz on C’mon C’mon actually being A24’s number one push after the recent NYFF announcement. I still think Washington is in given who he is, but starting to rethink that he’ll win his third at least for the time being. As to who is out, I still think Canterbury Glass might be pushed, and Driver’s best shot is still in Supporting this year. Also unrelated to Best Actor, but related to Venice, I guess Blonde might not be very good at all either coming from the same person that had Coen tea.
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Post by mhynson27 on Jul 26, 2021 12:58:11 GMT
Complementing what Morton said, apparently Macbeth was rejected by Venice.
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Post by JangoB on Jul 26, 2021 12:59:03 GMT
If you want to look at this as a "who's winning Best Actor" - whoever can win this particular Volpi Cup is fascinating wrinkle in this years race.......this year if it's one of the 3 guys from the films below - it may solidify one guys chance to win the Oscar (Cumberbatch) or be a breakthrough nod for the other 2 guys - one of whom - the great Toni Servillo (The Hand of God) is an Italian legend at this point and may pull an Isabelle Huppert nod..... If you look at the Best Actor nominee predictions it's the same small group of big guys (Cumberbatch, Washington, Smith, Bale (maybe?), DiCaprio, Cooper etc)......I don't know anything BUT I can assure you it will not be ALL big guys like that ....and this may be our first sign of something to read about the race......... Cumberbatch below - first shot btw...... COMPETITION The Power of The Dog - Jane Campion The Card Counter - Paul Schrader The Hand of God - Paolo Sorrentino
He’s been in my top 10, but I wasn’t sure where to put him in my top 5. I’m definitely making for The Power of the Dog and Cumberbatch now though especially after reading major tea about it. People have seen DiCaprio and Smith, so I think they’re in based on early word. Shockingly someone with very close ties to Cannes and Venice just said that the Coen is not very good. I still think Washington is in, but that might explain why there’s been a lot of buzz on C’mon C’mon actually being A24’s number one push after the recent NYFF announcement. I still think Washington is in given who he is, but starting to rethink that he’ll win his third at least for the time being. As to who is out, I still think Canterbury Glass might be pushed, and Driver’s best shot is still in Supporting this year. Also unrelated to Best Actor, but related to Venice, I guess Blonde might not be very good at all either coming from the same person that had Coen tea. Yeah, he posted that the European programmers found neither "Macbeth" nor "Blonde" to be very good, hence why they're not in competition. Kind of bizzare - I thought they'd take these movies just for the prestige value. Always so strange when festivals reject big filmmakers. Like when Cannes said no to their regular Mike Leigh with "Peterloo". Although Venice was happy to pick that up. Even stranger that they rejected the Coen bro and Dominick. But hey, it's just the taste of some programmers. I'm sure the movies will be fine. But it is interesting.
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Post by wilcinema on Jul 26, 2021 13:00:36 GMT
I loved the previous festivals, don’t get me wrong, but this lineup feels like a return to roots for Venice. Fewer obvious Oscar movies, more room for arthouse cinema. It seems like Barbera said that being an Oscar contender doesn’t cut it anymore, it has be worthy of a spot (if the tea on Blonde is legit).
Which is why I’m immensely curious about Larrain and Campion now.
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Post by stephen on Jul 26, 2021 13:11:53 GMT
Shame that Blonde didn't make the cut.
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Post by mhynson27 on Jul 26, 2021 13:46:04 GMT
Yeah, I'm more and more getting the feeling that The Power of the Dog could be MAJOR.
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Post by pacinoyes on Jul 26, 2021 13:54:45 GMT
If you want to look at this as a "who's winning Best Actor" - whoever can win this particular Volpi Cup is fascinating wrinkle in this years race.......this year if it's one of the 3 guys from the films below - it may solidify one guys chance to win the Oscar (Cumberbatch) or be a breakthrough nod for the other 2 guys - one of whom - the great Toni Servillo (The Hand of God) is an Italian legend at this point and may pull an Isabelle Huppert nod..... If you look at the Best Actor nominee predictions it's the same small group of big guys (Cumberbatch, Washington, Smith, Bale (maybe?), DiCaprio, Cooper etc)......I don't know anything BUT I can assure you it will not be ALL big guys like that ....and this may be our first sign of something to read about the race......... Cumberbatch below - first shot btw...... COMPETITION The Power of The Dog - Jane Campion The Card Counter - Paul Schrader The Hand of God - Paolo Sorrentino
Shockingly someone with very close ties to Cannes and Venice just said that the Coen is not very good. Some pacinoyes experts (yeah, they're out there, and they frighten me......... ) might remember that I am sorta friends / more like acquaintances with a US film critic (not gonna name 'em........but I did once in the IMDB days) ..............who has a colleague who has already seen Macbeth and Blonde so there's US people - outside the festivals insiders - who have seen some of these too........
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Post by pupdurcs on Jul 26, 2021 14:25:41 GMT
If you want to look at this as a "who's winning Best Actor" - whoever can win this particular Volpi Cup is fascinating wrinkle in this years race.......this year if it's one of the 3 guys from the films below - it may solidify one guys chance to win the Oscar (Cumberbatch) or be a breakthrough nod for the other 2 guys - one of whom - the great Toni Servillo (The Hand of God) is an Italian legend at this point and may pull an Isabelle Huppert nod..... If you look at the Best Actor nominee predictions it's the same small group of big guys (Cumberbatch, Washington, Smith, Bale (maybe?), DiCaprio, Cooper etc)......I don't know anything BUT I can assure you it will not be ALL big guys like that ....and this may be our first sign of something to read about the race......... Cumberbatch below - first shot btw...... COMPETITION The Power of The Dog - Jane Campion The Card Counter - Paul Schrader The Hand of God - Paolo Sorrentino
He’s been in my top 10, but I wasn’t sure where to put him in my top 5. I’m definitely making for The Power of the Dog and Cumberbatch now though especially after reading major tea about it. People have seen DiCaprio and Smith, so I think they’re in based on early word. Shockingly someone with very close ties to Cannes and Venice just said that the Coen is not very good. I still think Washington is in, but that might explain why there’s been a lot of buzz on C’mon C’mon actually being A24’s number one push after the recent NYFF announcement. I still think Washington is in given who he is, but starting to rethink that he’ll win his third at least for the time being. As to who is out, I still think Canterbury Glass might be pushed, and Driver’s best shot is still in Supporting this year. Also unrelated to Best Actor, but related to Venice, I guess Blonde might not be very good at all either coming from the same person that had Coen tea. Yet...yet... Cannes accepted the last two Sean Penn movies, both which got majority bad to terrible reviews and one of which was hailed as arguably the worst Cannes premiere since The Brown Bunny (presumably because they were made by Sean Penn, who has a good relationship with Cannes Director Thierry Friemaux).At the level Denzel/McDormand/Coen are at, acceptance into Cannes has nothing to do with being "good". Macbeth could be the biggest piece of shit ever, and Friemaux would find a place for it in the festival line-up because of what it means in terms of starpower and prestige for the festival. So I don't really buy for one second that Cannes would reject a film like that. More likely the Macbeth crew have been keeping their options open as to where and when to premiere and gotten multiple offers. And if they decided to skip on European festival offers for the New York Film Festival (which is closer to Oscar season) well, I don't imagine they'd take it well. So why not throw around rumours that it ain't all that. This is a dirty industry, and things like that do happen. You got to take a lot of things claimed by "sources" with a grain of salt, because you don't know what their agenda may be.
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Post by JangoB on Jul 26, 2021 14:34:30 GMT
He’s been in my top 10, but I wasn’t sure where to put him in my top 5. I’m definitely making for The Power of the Dog and Cumberbatch now though especially after reading major tea about it. People have seen DiCaprio and Smith, so I think they’re in based on early word. Shockingly someone with very close ties to Cannes and Venice just said that the Coen is not very good. I still think Washington is in, but that might explain why there’s been a lot of buzz on C’mon C’mon actually being A24’s number one push after the recent NYFF announcement. I still think Washington is in given who he is, but starting to rethink that he’ll win his third at least for the time being. As to who is out, I still think Canterbury Glass might be pushed, and Driver’s best shot is still in Supporting this year. Also unrelated to Best Actor, but related to Venice, I guess Blonde might not be very good at all either coming from the same person that had Coen tea. Yet...yet... Cannes accepted the last two Sean Penn movies, both which got majority bad to terrible reviews and one of which was hailed as arguably the worst Cannes premiere since The Brown Bunny (presumably because they were made by Sean Penn, who has a good relationship with Cannes Director Thierry Friemaux).At the level Denzel/McDormand/Coen are at, acceptance into Cannes has nothing to do with being "good". Macbeth could be the biggest piece of shit ever, and Friemaux would find a place for it in the festival line-up because of what it means in terms of starpower and prestige for the festival. So I don't really buy for one second that Cannes would reject a film like that. More likely the Macbeth crew have been keeping their options open as to where and when to premiere and gotten multiple offers. And if they decided to skip on European festival offers for the New York Film Festival (which is closer to Oscar season) well, I don't imagine they'd take it well. So why not throw around rumours that it ain't all that. This is a dirty industry, and things like that do happen. You got to take a lot of things claimed by "sources" with a grain of salt, because you don't know what their agenda may be. Cannes didn't reject the Coen - Venice did. If I'm not mistaken, Fremaux was complimentary about it.
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Post by mhynson27 on Jul 26, 2021 14:40:08 GMT
Yet...yet... Cannes accepted the last two Sean Penn movies, both which got majority bad to terrible reviews and one of which was hailed as arguably the worst Cannes premiere since The Brown Bunny (presumably because they were made by Sean Penn, who has a good relationship with Cannes Director Thierry Friemaux).At the level Denzel/McDormand/Coen are at, acceptance into Cannes has nothing to do with being "good". Macbeth could be the biggest piece of shit ever, and Friemaux would find a place for it in the festival line-up because of what it means in terms of starpower and prestige for the festival. So I don't really buy for one second that Cannes would reject a film like that. More likely the Macbeth crew have been keeping their options open as to where and when to premiere and gotten multiple offers. And if they decided to skip on European festival offers for the New York Film Festival (which is closer to Oscar season) well, I don't imagine they'd take it well. So why not throw around rumours that it ain't all that. This is a dirty industry, and things like that do happen. You got to take a lot of things claimed by "sources" with a grain of salt, because you don't know what their agenda may be. Cannes didn't reject the Coen - Venice did. If I'm not mistaken, Fremaux was complimentary about it. This is correct.
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Post by pupdurcs on Jul 26, 2021 14:48:11 GMT
Yet...yet... Cannes accepted the last two Sean Penn movies, both which got majority bad to terrible reviews and one of which was hailed as arguably the worst Cannes premiere since The Brown Bunny (presumably because they were made by Sean Penn, who has a good relationship with Cannes Director Thierry Friemaux).At the level Denzel/McDormand/Coen are at, acceptance into Cannes has nothing to do with being "good". Macbeth could be the biggest piece of shit ever, and Friemaux would find a place for it in the festival line-up because of what it means in terms of starpower and prestige for the festival. So I don't really buy for one second that Cannes would reject a film like that. More likely the Macbeth crew have been keeping their options open as to where and when to premiere and gotten multiple offers. And if they decided to skip on European festival offers for the New York Film Festival (which is closer to Oscar season) well, I don't imagine they'd take it well. So why not throw around rumours that it ain't all that. This is a dirty industry, and things like that do happen. You got to take a lot of things claimed by "sources" with a grain of salt, because you don't know what their agenda may be. Cannes didn't reject the Coen - Venice did. If I'm not mistaken, Fremaux was complimentary about it. So the Macbeth team rejected a Cannes Premiere?This alone says a lot. Film Festival politics are very real. Macbeth knows it's a Hot shit ticket for any festival, regardless of "quality". If it's already said "thanks, bit no thanks to Cannes", no doubt Venice would have gotten wind of that. Perhaps they didn't want to be put in that same position of Cannes. Sounds more to me like Macbeth has been throwing it's weight about with festivals and letting them know they got plenty of options.
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Post by JangoB on Jul 26, 2021 14:57:13 GMT
Cannes didn't reject the Coen - Venice did. If I'm not mistaken, Fremaux was complimentary about it. So the Macbeth team rejected a Cannes Premiere?This alone says a lot. Film Festival politics are very real. Macbeth knows it's a Hot sit ticket for any festival, regardless of "quality". If it's already said "thanks, bit no thanks to Cannes", no doubt Venice would have gotten wind of that. Perhaps they didn't want to be put in that same position of Cannes. Sounds more to me like Macbeth has been throwing it's weight about with festivals and letting them know they got plenty of options. I'm not entirely sure why it didn't play Cannes - all I know is that Fremaux saw it and liked it. Venice flat out rejected it because the programmers didn't like it though - that ain't speculation, that's info from a guy who is a programmer. Same with "Blonde". All of it sound weird to me too, trust me. I have no idea why the Venice guys didn't go for it when Fremaux complimented it and the NYFF guys obviously loved it. All programmers' tastes are different, I guess. But even if they didn't dig the flick, to pass up an opportunity to have such big people at the fest is downright weird.
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Post by Mattsby on Jul 26, 2021 15:18:00 GMT
Mona Lisa and The Blood Moon - Ana Lily Amirpour
First still.....I'm not a great fan of Amirpour so far but this movie stars Jeon Jong-Seo (Burning, The Call) who's one of the best, most exciting young actresses.
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Post by quetee on Jul 26, 2021 16:57:01 GMT
The Power of the Dog and The Lost Daughter will probably get biggest boost here.
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