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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on May 6, 2021 18:33:15 GMT
the final results are in!
LEAD
Han Ye-ri, Minari (16/6)
Alan Kim, Minari (18/3)
Steven Yeun, Minari (21/1)
Kingsley Ben-Adir, One Night in Miami (16/7)
Leslie Odom Jr., One Night in Miami (14/10)
Orion Lee, First Cow (11/6)
Hong Chau, Driveways (8/3)
Delroy Lindo, Da 5 Bloods (23/3)
Tom Holland, The Devil All the Time (11/6)
Charles Dance, Fanny Lye Deliver'd (8/2)
Elizabeth Moss, Shirley (14/1)
Odessa Young, Shirley (15/0)
Christopher Abbott, Possessor (13/1)
Andrea Riseborough, Possessor (8/6)
Meryl Streep, Let Them All Talk (8/3)
Shaun Parkes, Mangrove (9/5)
SUPPORTING
Viola Davis - Ma Rainey's Black Bottom (6/21)
Eli Goree, One Night in Miami (3/20)
Aldis Hodge, One Night in Miami (2/21)
Olivia Colman, The Father (0/22)
Maria Bakalova, Borat Subsequent Moviefilm (9/12)
Brian Dennehy, Driveways (0/12)
Bill Murray, On the Rocks (4/15)
Clarke Peters, Da 5 Bloods (4/22)
Helena Zengel, News of the World (6/13)
Freddie Fox, Fanny Lye Deliver'd (4/6)
Sacha Baron Cohen, The Trial of the Chicago 7 (0/26)
Mark Rylance, The Trial of the Chicago 7 (0/26)
Benjamin Voisin, Summer of 85 (0/6)
Sophia Loren, The Life Ahead (3/8)
Gina Rodriguez, Kajillionaire (0/10)
Leslie Odom Jr., Hamilton (6/7)
Malachi Kirby, Mangrove (0/14)
TIED (put 'em wherever you want)
Liana Liberato, To the Stars (1/1)
James Corden, The Prom (4/4)
Eligibility issues
Small Axe - Individual films and thus all separately eligible (15/4)
French Exit - 2021 and ineligible this year. It will be eligible next year. (4/11)
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on May 6, 2021 18:40:23 GMT
I'll start us off:
Han Ye-ri, Minari
Viola Davis, Ma Rainey's
Ben-Adir / Goree / Hodge / Odom Jr, One Night in Miami
Orion Lee, First Cow
Olivia Colman, The Father
Maria Bakalova, Borat Subsequent Moviefilm
Liana Liberato, To the Stars
Brian Dennehy, Driveways
Bill Murray, On the Rocks
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on May 6, 2021 18:41:47 GMT
also, I guess we can vote on whether Nomadland, Minari or The Father are eligible. They all received non-festival virtual releases in 2020, at MoMA I think. I'd like to vote on French Exit too. Couldn't track down much info on that so curious what others have to say or have heard.
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Post by stephen on May 6, 2021 19:04:19 GMT
I think Nomadland, The Father and Minari are all 2020 releases, as audiences could see them if they wanted and they were non-festival releases. Judas and The People vs. Billie Holiday are firmly 2021, and I personally feel they should be kept till next year.
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Post by stephen on May 6, 2021 19:06:52 GMT
As for the lead/supporting game:
Clarke Peters, Da 5 Bloods
Helena Zengel, News of the World
Shaun Parkes, Mangrove
Tom Holland, The Devil All the Time
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Post by Sharbs on May 6, 2021 19:10:43 GMT
How do we feel about the Small Axe individual pieces and their eligibility for AMARAs? I'm more than inclined to say that they should be eligible for this, but I'm also weird and include Black Mirror episodes in my lineups.
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on May 6, 2021 19:54:43 GMT
Sharbs, we can vote on the Small Axe films for sure. I personally see them as an anthology miniseries like a season of Black Mirror but the majority is never wrong 
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Post by finniussnrub on May 7, 2021 3:07:54 GMT
I can personally vouch for The Father as 2020, as I watched it in 2020, via a MOMA membership, a membership that could be as easily attained as any Netflix account in terms of public accessibility. So I think it definitely should count as 2020. I can't speak for Nomadland and Minari overall, however I can attest to the fact that their MOMA streaming screenings were only available in 2021.
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Post by stabcaesar on May 7, 2021 3:22:17 GMT
The People vs. Billie Holiday Loving the typo  |
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Post by The_Cake_of_Roth on May 7, 2021 4:03:04 GMT
The People vs. Billie Holiday Would watch: Kramer vs. Billie HolidayFord vs. Billie HolidayBatman vs. Billie HolidayGodzilla vs. Billie Holiday |
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Post by DeepArcher on May 7, 2021 4:28:21 GMT
The People vs. Billie Holiday Would watch: Kramer vs. Billie HolidayFord vs. Billie HolidayBatman vs. Billie HolidayGodzilla vs. Billie HolidayAnd don't forget Alien vs. Billie Holiday! |
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on May 7, 2021 16:28:48 GMT
I'll throw some more in the ring:
Charles Dance & Freddie Fox, Fanny Lye Deliver'd
Sacha Baron Cohen & Mark Rylance, The Trial of the Chicago 7
Elizabeth Moss & Odessa Young, Shirley
Benjamin Voisin, Summer of 85
Alan Kim, Minari
Hong Chau, Driveways (the weight given to everyone on the main cast is so interchangeable that I could see someone who sees Dennehy as supporting or lead would feel the same about Chau)
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Post by speeders on May 7, 2021 18:29:01 GMT
I'd add:
Sophia Loren, The Life Ahead
Steven Yeun, Minari
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Post by Sharbs on May 7, 2021 18:34:59 GMT
since there were some weird placements in some critics groups i'll add:
Christopher Abbott, Possessor
Andrea Riseborough, Possessor
One's I think are more borderline:
Gina Rodriguez, Kajillionaire
Meryl Streep, Let Them All Talk
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Post by dadsburgers on May 9, 2021 1:28:18 GMT
What about fully TV/online movies like Bad Education, Hamilton, The Boys in the Band (?)?
I want to include these, but part of me also wants to line up with the real awards by including later releases like Judas
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Post by dadsburgers on May 9, 2021 1:31:14 GMT
For lead/supporting debates that haven't been mentioned yet:
Delroy Lindo, Da 5 Bloods
James Corden, The Prom
Malachi Kirby, Mangrove
Leslie Odom Jr, Hamilton
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on May 9, 2021 1:46:04 GMT
What about fully TV/online movies like Bad Education, Hamilton, The Boys in the Band (?)? I want to include these, but part of me also wants to line up with the real awards by including later releases like Judas Per the official thread created by Sharbs, TV/online movies are totally eligible.  However, eligibility is also determined by first non-festival theatrical/public release of country of origin. Judas wasn't released to the public until 2021 and thus won't be eligible. |
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Post by coop032 on May 9, 2021 2:53:34 GMT
Christopher Abbott - Possessor
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on May 13, 2021 21:21:17 GMT
any other takers?
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on May 14, 2021 23:16:24 GMT
you have until 9 PM
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on May 15, 2021 15:28:59 GMT
all right, we're opening it up to voting. I'll be out of town tomorrow until the 24th but I'll try to pop in and make sure people are voting.
The performances:
Han Ye-ri, Alan Kim, Steven Yeun - Minari
Viola Davis - Ma Rainey's Black Bottom
Kingsley Ben-Adir, Eli Goree, Aldis Hodge, Leslie Odom Jr. - One Night in Miami
Orion Lee - First Cow
Olivia Colman - The Father
Maria Bakalova - Borat Subsequent Moviefilm
Liana Liberato - To the Stars
Brian Dennehy & Hong Chau - Driveways
Bill Murray - On the Rocks
Clarke Peters & Delroy Lindo - Da 5 Bloods
Helena Zengel - News of the World
Tom Holland - The Devil All the Time
Charles Dance & Freddie Fox - Fanny Lye Deliver'd
Sacha Baron Cohen & Mark Rylance - The Trial of the Chicago 7
Elizabeth Moss & Odessa Young - Shirley
Benjamin Voisin - Summer of 85
Sophia Loren - The Life Ahead
Christopher Abbott & Andrea Riseborough - Possessor
Gina Rodriguez - Kajillionaire
Meryl Streep, Let Them All Talk
James Corden, The Prom
Leslie Odom Jr - Hamilton
Malachi Kirby & Shaun Parkes - Mangrove
Eligibility issues:
Small Axe - anthology miniseries or individual films?
French Exit - 2020 or 2021?
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on May 15, 2021 15:36:04 GMT
LEAD
Han Ye-ri, Alan Kim, Steven Yeun - Minari
Kingsley Ben-Adir & Leslie Odom Jr. - One Night in Miami
Orion Lee - First Cow
Hong Chau - Driveways
Delroy Lindo - Da 5 Bloods
Tom Holland - The Devil All the Time
Elizabeth Moss & Odessa Young - Shirley
Sophia Loren - The Life Ahead
Christopher Abbott & Andrea Riseborough - Possessor
Meryl Streep - Let Them All Talk
James Corden - The Prom
SUPPORTING
Viola Davis - Ma Rainey's Black Bottom
Eli Goree & Aldis Hodge - One Night in Miami
Olivia Colman - The Father
Maria Bakalova - Borat Subsequent Moviefilm
Liana Liberato - To the Stars
Brian Dennehy - Driveways
Bill Murray - On the Rocks
Clarke Peters - Da 5 Bloods
Helena Zengel - News of the World
Charles Dance & Freddie Fox - Fanny Lye Deliver'd (in hindsight Dance is the only one in question here)
Sacha Baron Cohen & Mark Rylance - The Trial of the Chicago 7
Benjamin Voisin - Summer of 85
NS Hamilton, Mangrove or Kajillionaire
French Exit - 2020 or 2021
Small Axe - individual films or ANTHOLOGY MINISERIES
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Post by Sharbs on May 15, 2021 15:53:33 GMT
The performances:
LEAD
Han Ye-ri, Minari
Alan Kim, Minari
Steven Yeun, Minari
Kingsley Ben-Adir, One Night in Miami...
Leslie Odom Jr., One Night in Miami...
Orion Lee, First Cow
Maria Bakalova, Borat Subsequent MovieFilm
Hong Chau, Driveways
Bill Murray, On the Rocks
Delroy Lindo, Da 5 Bloods
Helena Zengel, News of the World
Tom Holland, The Devil All the Time
Charles Dance, Fanny Lye Deliver'd
Freddie Fox, Fanny Lye Deliver'd
Odessa Young, Shirley
Elisabeth Moss, Shirley
Christopher Abbott, Possessor
Shaun Parkes, Mangrove
SUPPORTING
Viola Davis, Ma Rainey's Black Bottom
Eli Goree, One Night in Miami...
Aldis Hodge, One Night in Miami...
Olivia Colman, The Father
Brian Dennehy, Driveways
Clarke Peters, Da 5 Bloods
Sacha Baron Cohen, The Trial of the Chicago 7
Mark Rylance, The Trial of the Chicago 7
Sophia Loren, The Life Ahead
Andrea Riseborough, Possessor
Gina Rodriguez, Kajillionaire
Meryl Streep, Let Them All Talk
Malachi Kirby, Mangrove
Eligibility issues:
Small Axe - Individual Films
French Exit - 2020
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Post by stephen on May 15, 2021 15:59:58 GMT
LEAD:
Han Ye-ri, Alan Kim, Steven Yeun - Minari
Kingsley Ben-Adir, Leslie Odom Jr. - One Night in Miami
Orion Lee - First Cow
Maria Bakalova - Borat Subsequent Moviefilm
Delroy Lindo - Da 5 Bloods
Charles Dance - Fanny Lye Deliver'd
Elizabeth Moss & Odessa Young - Shirley
Christopher Abbott & Andrea Riseborough - Possessor
SUPPORTING:
Eli Goree, Aldis Hodge - One Night in Miami (debatable but they really lose relevance midway through)
Viola Davis - Ma Rainey's Black Bottom
Olivia Colman - The Father
Brian Dennehy & Hong Chau - Driveways
Bill Murray - On the Rocks
Clarke Peters - Da 5 Bloods
Helena Zengel - News of the World (close but she really doesn't get a whole lot of perspective; it's not a Steinfeld situation at all)
Tom Holland - The Devil All the Time
Freddie Fox - Fanny Lye Deliver'd
Sacha Baron Cohen & Mark Rylance - The Trial of the Chicago 7
Sophia Loren - The Life Ahead
Leslie Odom Jr - Hamilton
Malachi Kirby & Shaun Parkes - Mangrove
ELIGIBILITY:
Small Axe - individual films
French Exit - I don't know the background behind this
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Post by therealcomicman117 on May 15, 2021 16:09:19 GMT
Lead:
Han Ye-ri, Alan Kim, Steven Yeun – Minari
Kingsley Ben-Adir & Leslie Odom Jr. - One Night in Miami
Orion Lee – First Cow
Hong Chau – Driveways
Bill Murray – On the Rocks
Delroy Lindo – Da 5 Bloods
Charles Dance – Fanny Lyle Deliver’d
Elizabeth Moss & Odessa Young – Shirley
Christopher Abbott & Andrea Riseborough – Possessor
Meryl Streep - Let Them All Talk
Supporting:
Viola Davis – Ma Rainey’s Black Bottom
Eli Goree, Aldis Hodge - One Night in Miami
Olivia Coleman – The Father
Maria Bakalova - Borat Subsequent Moviefilm
Brian Dennehy – Driveways
Clarke Peters – Da 5 Bloods
Tom Holland – The Devil All the Time
Helena Zengel – News of the World
Freddie Fox – Fanny Lyle Deliver’d
Sacha Baron Cohen & Mark Rylance - The Trial of the Chicago 7
Benjamin Voisin - Summer of 85
Sophia Loren – The Life Ahead
Gina Rodriguez – Kajillionaire
James Corden – The Prom
Leslie Odom Jr.- Hamilton
Malachi Kirby & Shaun Parkes - Mangrove
Eligibility issues:
Small Axe - Individual Films
French Exit - 2020
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However, eligibility is also determined by first non-festival theatrical/public release of country of origin. Judas wasn't released to the public until 2021 and thus won't be eligible.
