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Post by michael128 on Apr 26, 2021 11:15:16 GMT
I can't help but feel that Frances winning has ignited a new narrative for Meryl. I predict two more awards in the next 10 years for her.
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Post by franklin on Apr 26, 2021 11:16:55 GMT
Slightly unrelated, but at this point, after Hopkins's win, i can see DDL unretiring, coming back, reteaming with Scorsese or PTA and winning a fourth Oscar.
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Post by michael128 on Apr 26, 2021 11:21:50 GMT
Slightly unrelated, but at this point, after Hopkins's win, i can see DDL unretiring, coming back, reteaming with Scorsese or PTA and winning a fourth Oscar. It's completely unrelated actually. And unrealistic.
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Post by The_Cake_of_Roth on Apr 26, 2021 11:27:20 GMT
Yeah and if Meryl wins a fourth, I can't help but feel like that will ignite a new narrative for Katharine Hepburn, who will come back from the dead and win a fifth.
Slightly unrelated, but if DDL unretires and wins a fourth, I can see Nicholson unretiring, reteaming with James L Brooks to win two more by the time he's 100.
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Post by michael128 on Apr 26, 2021 11:28:51 GMT
Yeah and if Meryl wins a fourth, I can't help but feel like that will ignite a new narrative for Katharine Hepburn, who will come back from the dead and win a fifth. Slightly unrelated, but if DDL unretires and wins a fourth, I can see Nicholson unretiring, reteaming with James L Brooks to win two more by the time he's 100. Katharine Hepburn is a hack.
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Post by TerryMontana on Apr 26, 2021 11:56:01 GMT
Nope. She's not overdue and will never be.
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Post by pacinoyes on Apr 26, 2021 12:14:16 GMT
I don't think she's overdue - I mean she's so ridiculously nominated - you can justify more nods without another win - and I actually think her career ambitions are different.
I think she'd like the Triple Crown - I'd say if you know her background and the type of actress she was once and how film really took her away from theater she'd like to go back to Broadway when it comes back.
Just like winning 3 Oscars isn't going to be a big deal soon - I mean there are 3 men who could do it in the next couple years - neither one day will the Triple Crown .........and I think she knows that a Broadway return not only would be a test for her but a big deal in the theater community and it's the only thing that's a little weird when you can name several living actresses who have it when she doesn't......
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Post by wilcinema on Apr 26, 2021 12:23:33 GMT
Glenn Close is wayyyyy more overdue for her first than Meryl is for her fourth.
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Post by speeders on Apr 26, 2021 12:27:40 GMT
I will not tolerate any fake news about Meryl Streep being overdue for more Oscars.
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Post by HELENA MARIA on Apr 26, 2021 12:46:54 GMT
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Post by The_Cake_of_Roth on Apr 26, 2021 12:48:53 GMT
Just like winning 3 Oscars isn't going to be a big deal soon - I mean there are 3 men who could do it in the next couple years - neither one day will the Triple Crown I assume you mean Hanks, Denzel, and De Niro? Denzel is the closest to the Triple Crown out of this group, but you don't think that will happen? (unless you only mean the other two guys)
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Post by Weaver Addict on Apr 26, 2021 12:55:38 GMT
I can't help but feel that Frances winning has ignited a new narrative for Meryl. I predict two more awards in the next 10 years for her. If Meryl wins a 4th, I hope Glenn Close is sitting in the rafters with a bucket of pigs blood. Spacek can live tweet it.
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Post by pacinoyes on Apr 26, 2021 13:15:25 GMT
Just like winning 3 Oscars isn't going to be a big deal soon - I mean there are 3 men who could do it in the next couple years - neither one day will the Triple Crown I assume you mean Hanks, Denzel, and De Niro? Denzel is the closest to the Triple Crown out of this group, but you don't think that will happen? (unless you only mean the other two guys) Those were the 3 I meant yes and even more people ......Blanchett I think is knocking on that maybe this year as well.
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Post by stephen on Apr 26, 2021 13:18:07 GMT
If you already have an Oscar, you cannot be overdue for a second.
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Apr 26, 2021 15:11:55 GMT
After just 10 years? Heellll no. And none of her 2010s noms barring The Post have been remotely win-worthy (of course, neither was The Iron Lady ).
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Post by countjohn on Apr 26, 2021 18:12:03 GMT
Three is exactly the right number for Meryl although it should have been for different movies. I'm not lobbying for her to get a 4th unless she has a late career peak that's up their with her best work.
I also think we're viewing this as too interconnected, they're not going to give Meryl a 4th just because they gave McDormand a 3rd. The Oscar voters also clearly just really, really like Fran and didn't have a problem anointing her as an all time great with the 3rd one. I don't think they're going to start just giving out repeat Oscars all the time now, there's still going to be an element of "waiting your turn". Nomadland was a BP/BD winner probably by a pretty big margin, it's not like she took the award for a movie where the appeal was all about her.
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Post by franklin on Apr 27, 2021 13:40:46 GMT
Yes, I think you partially answered the question I was going to make, which is:
Do you think after McDormand's third win, you'll see more actors winning three Acting Oscars because of the mindset "Hey, if McDormand won three, why this or that actor shouldn't have three???", and thus winning three Oscars won't be a big deal anymore like it used to be???
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Post by pacinoyes on Apr 27, 2021 14:15:52 GMT
Yes, I think you partially answered the question I was going to make, which is: Do you think after McDormand's third win, you'll see more actors winning three Acting Oscars because of the mindset "Hey, if McDormand won three, why this or that actor shouldn't have three???", and thus winning three Oscars won't be a big deal anymore like it used to be??? I think what changed things was Hanks winning back to back BA.......I mean he wasn't even 40..............after that ....well the floodgates were open............ why shouldn't Nicholson have 3.......and if he has 3 ............why shouldn't Streep have 3 ................and why shouldn't a Brit have 3 off of a mere ~20 films ....... McDormand is just the latest in a line that was established before that. I mean the movies mean far less than they ever have culturally........so by extension the Oscars mean far less than they ever have too.........it's like that old joke about them - it doesn't matter how many you have...........but you really do "have" to have 1........
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Post by gradytripp on Apr 27, 2021 14:21:19 GMT
Yes, I think you partially answered the question I was going to make, which is: Do you think after McDormand's third win, you'll see more actors winning three Acting Oscars because of the mindset "Hey, if McDormand won three, why this or that actor shouldn't have three???", and thus winning three Oscars won't be a big deal anymore like it used to be??? I think what changed things was Hanks winning back to back BA.......I mean he wasn't even 40..............after that ....well the floodgates were open............ why shouldn't Nicholson have 3.......and if he has 3 ............why shouldn't Streep have 3 ................and why shouldn't a Brit have 3 off of a mere ~20 films ....... McDormand is just the latest in a line that was established before that. I mean the movies mean far less than they ever have culturally........so by extension the Oscars mean far less than they ever have too.........it's like that old joke about them - it doesn't matter how many you have...........but you really do "have" to have 1........ Spencer Tracy won 2 back to back before he was 40.
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Post by stephen on Apr 27, 2021 14:23:31 GMT
I think what changed things was Hanks winning back to back BA.......I mean he wasn't even 40..............after that ....well the floodgates were open............ why shouldn't Nicholson have 3.......and if he has 3 ............why shouldn't Streep have 3 ................and why shouldn't a Brit have 3 off of a mere ~20 films ....... McDormand is just the latest in a line that was established before that. I mean the movies mean far less than they ever have culturally........so by extension the Oscars mean far less than they ever have too.........it's like that old joke about them - it doesn't matter how many you have...........but you really do "have" to have 1........ Spencer Tracy won 2 back to back before he was 40. And Luise Rainer before him.
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Post by pacinoyes on Apr 27, 2021 14:28:31 GMT
I think what changed things was Hanks winning back to back BA.......I mean he wasn't even 40..............after that ....well the floodgates were open............ why shouldn't Nicholson have 3.......and if he has 3 ............why shouldn't Streep have 3 ................and why shouldn't a Brit have 3 off of a mere ~20 films ....... McDormand is just the latest in a line that was established before that. I mean the movies mean far less than they ever have culturally........so by extension the Oscars mean far less than they ever have too.........it's like that old joke about them - it doesn't matter how many you have...........but you really do "have" to have 1........ Spencer Tracy won 2 back to back before he was 40. Oh, I know, but it was several eras removed ........different playing field in my opinion, different industry landscape and politics in play. It's not the same thing to me anyway........Tom Hanks really set this era on its ass, imo........he won the AFI Lifetime Award when he was like ~ 45 ........
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Post by mrimpossible on Apr 27, 2021 18:13:44 GMT
If you already have an Oscar, you cannot be overdue for a second. I disagree if you've put out amazing work since your first win and rack up nominations then yeah you should be considered overdue for a second or even third. I'm not saying that's the case with Meryl but in general.
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Post by Barbie on May 30, 2021 7:01:58 GMT
Hell no. She's so overrated. She shouldn't even have the insane nominations she's gotten so far
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Post by MsMovieStar on May 30, 2021 10:22:12 GMT
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Post by Johnny_Hellzapoppin on May 30, 2021 10:30:14 GMT
No
No one is overdue for a third or fourth Oscar. I'd have a hard time agreeing that someone was overdue for a second Oscar in the majority of cases.
If you have a Oscar win, then further nominations should really be their own reward. That's when the whole 'it's an honour just to be nominated' stops being a polite lie, and should ring at least somewhat true to the person saying it.
There are far too many great performances every year to be handing out repeat wins to the same people, unless it is really something special, like Hopkins this year. I wouldn't have considered him overdue for a second win though, he just gave the best performance of the year and was rightly given a second win.
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