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Post by pupdurcs on Apr 25, 2021 5:27:31 GMT
.....according to YouGov.UK Polling for 2020 for most popular contemporary actors in the UK. yougov.co.uk/ratings/entertainment/popularity/contemporary-actors/all1 Morgan Freeman2 Judi Dench3 Tom Hanks4 Michael Caine5 Robert DeNiro6 Samuel L Jackson7 Julie Walters8 David Tennant9 Harrison Ford10 Denzel WashingtonSlighty surprising to see more Americans than Brits in the top 10. Dench and Caine in the top 5 is no surprise, though I might have expected Hopkins as well (he's at #22, which is still pretty solid, as it puts him at 6th most popular among male British actors). Freeman topping the poll shouldn't be that surprising, as like Hanks, he's someone that audiences everywhere find comfort in, even if he isn't particularly edgy (if Hanks is the dad everyone wants, Freeman in the Grandfather everybody wants). David Tennant is really popular in the UK thanks to things like Doctor Who and Broadchurch. Impressive for Ford and DeNiro to still be so popular in the UK, despite being both quite away out of their primes as movie stars. |
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Post by therealcomicman117 on Apr 25, 2021 14:42:15 GMT
I'm actually not surprised that there are a lot of American Hollywoodie actors in there (the voting was heavily skewed older too, I imagine). A lot of people in the U.K. have always been fascinated by the glitz and glamour of Tinsel Town. What surrpises and impresses me more is seeing someone like Julie Walters in the top ten. She is truly adored in her native country, and probably with good reason.
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Post by pupdurcs on Apr 25, 2021 15:10:02 GMT
I'm actually not surprised that there are a lot of American Hollywoodie actors in there (the voting was heavily skewed older too, I imagine). A lot of people in the U.K. have always been fascinated by the glitz and glamour of Tinsel Town. What surrpises and impresses me more is seeing someone like Julie Walters in the top ten. She is truly adored in her native country, and probably with good reason. Very good points. And yeah, it's nice to see someone like Walters so appreciated in her native country. She is someone is hasn't been on the Hollywood radar for a very long time, so we tend to forget how appreciated she was at the peak of her film career, especially in the UK. She almost feels like the British equivalent of someone like Shirley McClaine. A great comedienne. Good to see non-BAFTA nominees topping the poll and placing 10th  . Those two have always been very popular actors in the UK with audiences, despite their curious lack of award recognition there. |
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Post by therealcomicman117 on Apr 25, 2021 15:36:05 GMT
I'm actually not surprised that there are a lot of American Hollywoodie actors in there (the voting was heavily skewed older too, I imagine). A lot of people in the U.K. have always been fascinated by the glitz and glamour of Tinsel Town. What surrpises and impresses me more is seeing someone like Julie Walters in the top ten. She is truly adored in her native country, and probably with good reason. Very good points. And yeah, it's nice to see someone like Walters so appreciated in her native country. She is someone is hasn't been on the Hollywood radar for a very long time, so we tend to forget how appreciated she was at the peak of her film career, especially in the UK. She almost feels like the British equivalent of someone like Shirley McClaine. A great comedienne. Good to see non-BAFTA nominees topping the poll and placing 10th . Those two have always been very popular actors in the UK with audiences, despite their curious lack of award recognition there. I'd have to imagine that her roles in Billy Elliott, The Harry Potter films, and the Mamma Mia movies (the original was the biggest movie ever at the time in the U.K.), have given audiences a newfound appreciation for her talents, which is nice. |
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Post by flasuss on Apr 25, 2021 21:53:55 GMT
Freeman at #1 and Denzel at #10 makes their lack of recognition at BAFTAs even worse.
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Post by pacinoyes on Apr 25, 2021 22:20:34 GMT
Freeman at #1 and Denzel at #10 makes their lack of recognition at BAFTAs even worse. ...........and the only actual BAFTA winner of that esteemed American group is Samuel Jackson - so 1 win across all 6 of them ........ Washington, Freeman are without nods.......De Niro and Hanks have lost a lot........Jackson and Ford are 1 nod ....... Hanks, De Niro, Freeman, Washington, Ford, Jackson |
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Post by pupdurcs on Apr 25, 2021 22:47:56 GMT
Freeman at #1 and Denzel at #10 makes their lack of recognition at BAFTAs even worse. Yeah, it's a pretty bad look for the two most nominated black actors by the Oscars in history (12 acting Oscar nominations between them) to never be recognised by BAFTA with even one nomination between them . You can't even use the excuse that their performances don't "translate" with British audiences, because they are both obviously really fucking popular in the UK. It's a pretty boring topic by now to honest. The BAFTA's have had to drastically reform themselves because they recognised their membership had a race issue. A shame it got to the point Joaquin Phoenix even had to call them out for it while accepting his BAFTA for Joker.
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Apr 25, 2021 23:40:16 GMT
did they only poll people over 60?
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Post by futuretrunks on Apr 25, 2021 23:43:10 GMT
Morgan Freeman at #1?  That seems very weird to me. I'd think Cillian Murphy is more popular than him in the UK right now based off of Peaky Blinders alone. If David Tennant is here, why isn't Murphy or Olivia Colman? |
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Post by Good God on Apr 25, 2021 23:52:38 GMT
In terms of actual UK awards from the industry (BAFTA), critics (London Critics), and audiences (Empire Awards, National Film Awards): Sidney Poitier6 BAFTA nominations, 1 win (London Critics started giving out awards in 1981) (Empire Awards started in 1996 and National Film Awards started in 2015) Morgan Freeman0 BAFTA nominations 1 London Critics win 1 Audience Award win (Empire) Samuel Jackson1 BAFTA win 0 London Critics nominations 1 Audience Award win (National Film) Denzel Washington0 BAFTA nominations 0 London Critics nominations 0 Audience Award nominations Forest Whitaker1 BAFTA win 1 London Critics win 0 Audience Award nominations Jamie Foxx2 BAFTA nominations, 1 win 1 London Critics win 0 Audience Award nominations Mahershala Ali2 BAFTA nominations, 1 win 1 London Critics win 0 Audience Award nominations Morgan Freeman has managed a couple of wins from British critics and audiences. Meanwhile, Denzel Washington has not managed a single nomination, let alone a win. Getting 0 acknowledgement from the British industry, critics, and audiences isn't a race thing. It's entirely a Denzel Washington thing. Heck, even commercials stars like Eddie Murphy and Will Smith have a BAFTA nomination and a National Movie Award nomination, respectively. I'm not even going to get into Black British actors. Washington stands alone in getting absolutely zilch in terms of competitive award recognition from the Brits. But hey, he showed up at #10 on some poll nobody gives a shit about, so he must be really popular in the UK The delusion and denial is real. |
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Post by pupdurcs on Apr 25, 2021 23:56:05 GMT
^^^ You crying everytime I say something about Denzel is just sad And You.Gov is one of the most well known and recognised polling systems around. |
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Post by pacinoyes on Apr 26, 2021 0:02:00 GMT
Good God posted this list in another thread yesterday ......this list is "all time" so a different thing but at least DiCap makes it and makes it seem a bit less dinosaur-ish Also as has been discussed BAFTA also probably worked against Denzel and Freeman because of their film quality somewhat - Denzel for example only has 2 nodded films and it's VERY hard to get in without your film historically......race is a possible factor but it's not that simple either - they have a lot of wackadoodle things besides race Number of votes for Best Actor in Film History on Ranker.com: ........
1. Tom Hanks - 57,900
2. Leonardo DiCaprio - 33,400
3. Al Pacino - 31,300
4. Robert De Niro - 30,100
5. Jack Nicholson - 27,600
6. Morgan Freeman - 25,500
7. Marlon Brando - 24,800
8. Anthony Hopkins - 23,600
9. Denzel Washington - 22,500
10. Daniel Day-Lewis - 22,000
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Post by pupdurcs on Apr 26, 2021 0:10:06 GMT
I pointed out that the Ranker thing can't realky be taken seriously (other than by Good God), because it's an unregulated internet poll. If Good God had the time and inclination, he could probably give Leonardo DiCaprio 5000 votes all by himself.
Things like YouGov, Harris etc are measured and specific. They poll a specific number of people and only one person's vote gets counted. The methodology of serious polls doesn't allow for spamming.
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Post by Good God on Apr 26, 2021 0:27:13 GMT
Still waiting for answers to a few questions: 1. Why does Washington have 0 BAFTA nominations when Poitier has 6?
2. Why has Washington never even managed a London critics nomination?
3. If Washington were so popular in the UK, why has he never managed even a $20M gross there?Even this poll seems to be suggesting that Washington is not all that famous. If YouGov is to be trusted, Danny DeVito (#31) and Jamie Foxx (#34) are more famous in America than Denzel Washington (#38) Serious poll indeed. |
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Post by pupdurcs on Apr 26, 2021 0:29:28 GMT
^^^^ |
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Post by pupdurcs on Apr 27, 2021 22:12:37 GMT
Anyway, this is the 2003 Channel 4 Poll (voted on by 25,000 Brits), where the British Public voted for whom they considered the 100 Greatest Movie Stars Of All Time at that point in time. Denzel was voted in at #29, coming ahead of the likes of Julia Roberts and Tom Cruise, who were still near the primes of their careers. And he was voted ahead of contemporary and classic legends like Meryl Streep, Marlon Brando, Gene Hackman, Micheal Caine, Daniel Day-Lewis, Gary Oldman, Kate Winslet, Marilyn Monroe, Peter Sellers, Robert Redford, Sidney Poitier,Jack Lemmon, Humphrey Bogart and many more .He has always been a thing in the UK with fans & audiences. It ain't a recent development. www.theguardian.com/uk/2003/may/06/filmnews.artsChannel 4's 100 Greatest Movie Stars ( highlighted....Actors who were also in the UK Top 10 most popular contemporary actors for 2020) A viewers poll carried out by the British TV station Channel Four. 1. Al Pacino 2. Robert De Niro3. Tom Hanks4. Kevin Spacey 5. Harrison Ford6. Jack Nicholson 7. Anthony Hopkins 8. Sean Connery 9. Ewan McGregor 10. Cary Grant 11. Samuel L Jackson12. James Stewart 13. Audrey Hepburn 14. Steve McQueen 15. Brad Pitt 16. Paul Newman 17. Mel Gibson 18. Clint Eastwood 19. Robin Williams 20. Sigourney Weaver 21. Nicole Kidman 22. Johnny Depp 23. Jodie Foster 24. Dustin Hoffman 25. Susan Sarandon 26. Russell Crowe 27. Morgan Freeman28. Denzel Washington29. Julia Roberts 30. Marlon Brando 31. Christopher Lee 32. Tom Cruise 33. Nicolas Cage 34. Christopher Walken 35. Bruce Willis 36. Humphrey Bogart 37. Cate Blanchett 38. Katharine Hepburn 39. Marilyn Monroe 40. Gary Oldman 41. Jackie Chan 42. Gene Hackman 43. Jack Lemmon 44. Michael Caine45. Bette Davis 46. John Travolta 47. Jim Carrey 48. John Cusack 49. Bruce Lee 50. Charlie Chaplin 51. Will Smith 52. Sidney Poitier 53. Harvey Keitel 54. Arnold Schwarzenegger 55. Kate Winslet 56. John Wayne 57. Peter Sellers 58. Meryl Streep 59. John Malkovich 60. Jude Law 61. Robert Redford 62. Robert Downey Jr 63. Clark Gable 64. James Dean 65. Cameron Diaz 66. Gene Kelly 67. Eddie Murphy 68. Ingrid Bergman 69. River Phoenix 70. Richard Burton 71. Woody Allen 72. George Clooney 73. Hugh Grant 74. Angelina Jolie 75. Meg Ryan 76. Richard Gere 77. Elizabeth Taylor 78. Oliver Reed 79. Vivien Leigh 80. Dennis Hopper 81. Fred Astaire 82. Judy Garland 83. Ralph Fiennes 84. Doris Day 85. Daniel Day-Lewis 86. Grace Kelly 87. Winona Ryder 88. Juliette Binoche 89. Gwyneth Paltrow 90. Gerard Depardieu 91. Julie Christie 92. Amitabh Bachchan 93. Kevin Costner 94. Leonardo Di Caprio 95. Uma Thurman 96. Wesley Snipes 97. Burt Reynolds 98. Jane Fonda 99. Halle Berry 100. Michael Douglas |
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Post by quetee on Apr 27, 2021 22:22:03 GMT
.....according to YouGov.UK Polling for 2020 for most popular contemporary actors in the UK. yougov.co.uk/ratings/entertainment/popularity/contemporary-actors/all1 Morgan Freeman2 Judi Dench3 Tom Hanks4 Michael Caine5 Robert DeNiro6 Samuel L Jackson7 Julie Walters8 David Tennant9 Harrison Ford10 Denzel WashingtonSlighty surprising to see more Americans than Brits in the top 10. Dench and Caine in the top 5 is no surprise, though I might have expected Hopkins as well (he's at #22, which is still pretty solid, as it puts him at 6th most popular among male British actors). Freeman topping the poll shouldn't be that surprising, as like Hanks, he's someone that audiences everywhere find comfort in, even if he isn't particularly edgy (if Hanks is the dad everyone wants, Freeman in the Grandfather everybody wants). David Tennant is really popular in the UK thanks to things like Doctor Who and Broadchurch. Impressive for Ford and DeNiro to still be so popular in the UK, despite being both quite away out of their primes as movie stars. Looks like GP has better taste than BAFTA. Only Sam has scored and won an award. |
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Post by pupdurcs on Apr 27, 2021 22:28:27 GMT
.....according to YouGov.UK Polling for 2020 for most popular contemporary actors in the UK. yougov.co.uk/ratings/entertainment/popularity/contemporary-actors/all1 Morgan Freeman2 Judi Dench3 Tom Hanks4 Michael Caine5 Robert DeNiro6 Samuel L Jackson7 Julie Walters8 David Tennant9 Harrison Ford10 Denzel WashingtonSlighty surprising to see more Americans than Brits in the top 10. Dench and Caine in the top 5 is no surprise, though I might have expected Hopkins as well (he's at #22, which is still pretty solid, as it puts him at 6th most popular among male British actors). Freeman topping the poll shouldn't be that surprising, as like Hanks, he's someone that audiences everywhere find comfort in, even if he isn't particularly edgy (if Hanks is the dad everyone wants, Freeman in the Grandfather everybody wants). David Tennant is really popular in the UK thanks to things like Doctor Who and Broadchurch. Impressive for Ford and DeNiro to still be so popular in the UK, despite being both quite away out of their primes as movie stars. Looks like GP has better taste than BAFTA. Only Sam has scored and won an award. And that probably only happened because BAFTA voters have an enormous boner for Quentin Tarantino (he has 10 individual BAFTA nods, and 2 wins) . |
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Post by pacinoyes on Apr 28, 2021 0:09:36 GMT
I gotta say I couldn't care less about movie star popularity in some country we kicked in the ass in 1776 but even a stopped clock is right twice a day, eh you UK Limey bastards? 
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. Those two have always been very popular actors in the UK with audiences, despite their curious lack of award recognition there.
That seems very weird to me. I'd think Cillian Murphy is more popular than him in the UK right now based off of Peaky Blinders alone. If David Tennant is here, why isn't Murphy or Olivia Colman? 
