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Post by gradytripp on Apr 12, 2021 8:49:22 GMT
He's gaining momentum, it seems.
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Post by stabcaesar on Apr 12, 2021 8:51:56 GMT
I don't even want to imagine the backlash if that happens (even if Hopkins would make a far more deserving winner).
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Post by pupdurcs on Apr 12, 2021 9:02:44 GMT
Wouldn't really call winning a hometown decision (BAFTA) gaining momentum. He needed a lot more than that.There was always a strong possibility that BAFTA defaulted to a Brit contender, so that was the least surprising place for Boseman to lose. Boseman has won too much and his narrative feels too overwhelming at this point. So no, I don't think Hopkins stands a chance at the Oscar. Stranger things have happened, but it won't happen this time.
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Post by gradytripp on Apr 12, 2021 9:05:00 GMT
Wouldn't really call winning a hometown decision (BAFTA) gaining momentum. He needed a lot more than that.There was always a strong possibility that BAFTA defaulted to a Brit contender. Boseman has won too much and his narrative feels to overwhelming. So no, I don't think Hopkins stands a chance at the Oscar. Stranger things have happened, but it won't happen this time. With gaining momentum I was also referring to how well received The Father is. I think it got more Oscar nominations than a lot of us expected, for instance. I still believe that Boseman will win, but I think that Hopkins might be a somewhat close #2. |
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Post by TerryMontana on Apr 12, 2021 9:55:03 GMT
Unfortunately no. In my book he's a far more deserving winner but...
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Post by mhynson27 on Apr 12, 2021 10:13:30 GMT
A slim chance, but yes.
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Post by pacinoyes on Apr 12, 2021 10:16:26 GMT
Nope, as I've said on here a lot - and clutch your pearls MAR sensitive safe spacers  - obvious factors (race and not living, duh) tilt the scales definitively toward Boseman. Its quite true - at least the combination of it is. It is never a meritocracy and it's not a normal year - not just his narrative but culturally in the US imo. If 2020 was 2019 I'd suspect that lack of a BP nomination AND BAFTA would tip the scales to Hopkins......... Boseman - if he was alive (RIP) - would not have been absurdly talked about as a double nominee (that was NEVER a thing that was happening  ) and he is not Finch or Ledger who would have won even without their passing. But this year.....with no BAFTA win...........no BP nod .........AND no screenplay nod (!!!) doesn't hurt Boseman at all.......in another year they play a far bigger factor than they will this year. Boseman wins big I bet............ if we saw the vote count I mean...... |
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Post by sirchuck23 on Apr 12, 2021 12:18:33 GMT
Nope..Boseman is winning. As soon as the ecstatic reviews came out for his performance it was over. He has the narrative, sentiment, and the reviews (won a lot of critics awards as well). Hell, I have him and Davis winning on Oscar night.
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Apr 12, 2021 15:31:41 GMT
I don't think so. Love both of them and although I personally prefer Hopkins by a small margin, I really, really want to see Boseman win that Oscar and if I had a ballot I'd probably vote for him. I was paying attention to him back in the early 2010s with 42 and especially Get On Up which was transformative work and felt weirdly overlooked on the awards circuit. I knew he had the chops to make serious waves with the right role in the right film and Ma Rainey's confirmed that. What a swan song.
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Post by filmnoir on Apr 12, 2021 15:49:02 GMT
No to an 83 year old white guy who has already won in a white film. The Father was an Anthony Hopkins expected kind of performance.
Credit for Chadwick Boseman for playing against type in MRBB, especially after coming off a star vehicle like the Black Panther.
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Post by finniussnrub on Apr 12, 2021 21:10:21 GMT
No to an 83 year old white guy who has already won in a white film. The Father was an Anthony Hopkins expected kind of performance.Credit for Chadwick Boseman for playing against type in MRBB, especially after coming off a star vehicle like the Black Panther. There's nothing expected about his last scene. |
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Post by Archie on Apr 12, 2021 21:13:33 GMT
No to an 83 year old white guy who has already won in a white film. The Father was an Anthony Hopkins expected kind of performance. Credit for Chadwick Boseman for playing against type in MRBB, especially after coming off a star vehicle like the Black Panther. What a disgusting comment. |
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Post by flasuss on Apr 12, 2021 21:42:32 GMT
No to an 83 year old white guy who has already won in a white film. The Father was an Anthony Hopkins expected kind of performance. Credit for Chadwick Boseman for playing against type in MRBB, especially after coming off a star vehicle like the Black Panther. What a disgusting comment. But not a surprising one, considering who made it. |
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Post by filmnoir on Apr 12, 2021 21:47:55 GMT
What a disgusting comment. But not a surprising one, considering who made it. Fact: Hopkins is 83. He is white. He has won before. The Father is a white centric film. No diversity.
And it's a FACT that Boseman played a completely different character than his movie star making vehicle.
#OscarSoWhite
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Post by filmnoir on Apr 12, 2021 21:55:54 GMT
No to an 83 year old white guy who has already won in a white film. The Father was an Anthony Hopkins expected kind of performance. Credit for Chadwick Boseman for playing against type in MRBB, especially after coming off a star vehicle like the Black Panther. What a disgusting comment. No. What is disgusting is BAFTA's poor track record for recognizing American black actors for playing American black characters. It's ridiculous they have refused to nominate Denzel after all these years.
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Post by Miles Morales on Apr 12, 2021 22:03:14 GMT
But not a surprising one, considering who made it. Fact: Hopkins is 83. He is white. He has won before. The Father is a white centric film. No diversity.
And it's a FACT that Boseman played a completely different character than his movie star making vehicle.
#OscarSoWhite
The Father is also an fantastic film that got widespread acclaim and Hopkins delivered an amazing performance. By sheer merit alone, he deserves a win. No one would say #OscarsSoWhite and complain about his win in a normal scenario given that this year's Oscars had diverse nominations and will likely see diverse wins - but Chadwick Boseman is sadly no longer with us anymore and will not get another opportunity to win, and his performance was also similarly excellent. It's an double-edged sword - I would love to see it end in a tie rewarding both of them, but that isn't how things work unfortunately. |
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Post by filmnoir on Apr 12, 2021 22:23:10 GMT
Fact: Hopkins is 83. He is white. He has won before. The Father is a white centric film. No diversity.
And it's a FACT that Boseman played a completely different character than his movie star making vehicle.
#OscarSoWhite
The Father is also an fantastic film that got widespread acclaim and Hopkins delivered an amazing performance. By sheer merit alone, he deserves a win. No one would say #OscarsSoWhite and complain about his win in a normal scenario given that this year's Oscars had diverse nominations and will likely see diverse wins - but Chadwick Boseman is sadly no longer with us anymore and will not get another opportunity to win, and his performance was also similarly excellent. It's an double-edged sword - I would love to see it end in a tie rewarding both of them, but that isn't how things work unfortunately. Hopkins has won before. I don't think he never cares that much. He probably won't even show up. But if he does, as the veteran actor, it would be nice to see him leading the standing ovation for Chadwick Boseman's family. |
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Post by franklin on Apr 12, 2021 23:18:10 GMT
Boseman is winning
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Post by mrimpossible on Apr 12, 2021 23:18:12 GMT
But not a surprising one, considering who made it. Fact: Hopkins is 83. He is white. He has won before. The Father is a white centric film. No diversity.
And it's a FACT that Boseman played a completely different character than his movie star making vehicle.
#OscarSoWhite
Please stop embarrassing yourself. Not everything has to be about race. You're using the same divisive tactics that the KKK used. |
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Post by filmnoir on Apr 12, 2021 23:45:49 GMT
Fact: Hopkins is 83. He is white. He has won before. The Father is a white centric film. No diversity.
And it's a FACT that Boseman played a completely different character than his movie star making vehicle.
#OscarSoWhite
Please stop embarrassing yourself. Not everything has to be about race. You're using the same divisive tactics that the KKK used. You must be deflecting. Because the KKK is about bullying, ganging up and shutting people up. |
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Post by Brother Fease on Apr 13, 2021 0:41:47 GMT
Wouldn't really call winning a hometown decision (BAFTA) gaining momentum. He needed a lot more than that.There was always a strong possibility that BAFTA defaulted to a Brit contender, so that was the least surprising place for Boseman to lose. Boseman has won too much and his narrative feels too overwhelming at this point. So no, I don't think Hopkins stands a chance at the Oscar. Stranger things have happened, but it won't happen this time. Correct. Boseman won the Globe, Critics Choice, and SAG. Among the critics circle awards, he's won Chicago, Dallas, London, San Fran, and Washington D.C. Hopkins won the BAFTA and Boston Film Critics. I think it's pretty clear that Boseman is the favorite.
The Father winning two major BAFTAS pretty much signals that the Oscars and the BAFTAS will not line-up perfectly this year.
Best Actress is the only major category that is really up for grabs. I think Day, Davis, Mulligan or McDormand could easily win it.
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Post by ibbi on Apr 13, 2021 10:08:34 GMT
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Post by franklin on Apr 13, 2021 13:28:36 GMT
The British film and theater industry reveres Hopkins as an acting God at the same level of Day-Lewis or Olivier, so i'm not surprised they went for him, but at the Oscars it's still Boseman.
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Post by bob-coppola on Apr 13, 2021 14:05:47 GMT
The Father is peaking right now, and almost everyone who watches it says Hopkins deserves the win. It even entered IMDB's top 250 - the only one this season I guess. And there was no backlash to his BAFTA victory. There's a chance. But I'd say Boseman still takes it.
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Post by ingmarhepburn on Apr 13, 2021 15:51:44 GMT
He definitely has. They obviously loved the film, as proven by the Best Picture nomination - something that Ma Rainey didn't get. Boseman's narrative is very strong, but I'm seeing a lot more affinity/resonance with Hopkins' performance, and not only here. With The Father's current momentum and level of acclaim, I could see some members going for the performance that they love more rather than one that they admire more than they love.
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- obvious factors (race and not living, duh) tilt the scales definitively toward Boseman.
) and he is not Finch or Ledger who would have won even without their passing.
