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Post by HELENA MARIA on Apr 6, 2018 9:06:00 GMT
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Post by JangoB on Apr 6, 2018 9:52:10 GMT
I have no idea why Hollywood Reporter decided that his brief light response merited a 'He's open to making Indiana Jones a woman!' headline. He gave the 'correct' PC answer to a PC question and that's about it. It's not like he announced a new movie or anything. These PC-inclined film websites are weird these days.
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Post by HELENA MARIA on Apr 6, 2018 10:02:04 GMT
I have no idea why Hollywood Reporter decided that his brief light response merited a 'He's open to making Indiana Jones a woman!' headline. He gave the 'correct' PC answer to a PC question and that's about it. It's not like he announced a new movie or anything. These PC-inclined film websites are weird these days. Yeah , but the simple fact that he's open to the idea is still incredibly upsetting
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Post by cherry68 on Apr 6, 2018 10:14:29 GMT
Jones was the surname. He should call her India Jones.
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Post by JangoB on Apr 6, 2018 10:45:56 GMT
I have no idea why Hollywood Reporter decided that his brief light response merited a 'He's open to making Indiana Jones a woman!' headline. He gave the 'correct' PC answer to a PC question and that's about it. It's not like he announced a new movie or anything. These PC-inclined film websites are weird these days. Yeah , but the simple fact that he's open to the idea is still incredibly upsetting I don't think he's really open to this idea. He just knows how to answer these questions 'properly'.
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Post by pacinoyes on Apr 6, 2018 11:00:16 GMT
IndiANNA Jones geesh, it practically writes itself.......
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Post by Zeb31 on Apr 6, 2018 11:23:56 GMT
I have no idea why Hollywood Reporter decided that his brief light response merited a 'He's open to making Indiana Jones a woman!' headline. He gave the 'correct' PC answer to a PC question and that's about it. It's not like he announced a new movie or anything. These PC-inclined film websites are weird these days. Yeah, this doesn't mean anything at all. He was asked a loaded question and answered in the smartest, least controversial way possible (surely he knows what the reactions would've been like if he'd answered differently), so THR ran with it and turned it into a clickbait headline that makes it sound like he's planning to do it when he isn't. He's still moving forward with Indy 5 with Harrison Ford and it'd take years for a 6th to be made, and I don't think that'll happen. Not much of a story.
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Post by bob-coppola on Apr 6, 2018 15:12:38 GMT
I think it's nice people are starting to realize that some of the big tentpoles tell stories that truly are genderless and could have a female lead and you wouldn't have to change much of the plot. Indiana Jones is one of those cases. With that said, I think we should start asking for more iconic and original female roles, instead of gender-swapping well-stablished properties. If you wanna make a female Indiana Jones, why don't you just make a good Lara Croft movie instead?
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Post by theycallmemrfish on Apr 6, 2018 15:25:43 GMT
And soon, my dream of a film about Tyson/Holyfield starring Chrissy Teigan and Mariah Carey will come to fruition!
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Post by Billy_Costigan on Apr 6, 2018 15:31:23 GMT
Yeah , but the simple fact that he's open to the idea is still incredibly upsetting I don't think he's really open to this idea. He just knows how to answer these questions 'properly'. This. He's been around long enough to know what to say. Still, just make an original film with a female hero.
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Post by JangoB on Apr 6, 2018 15:58:32 GMT
I don't think he's really open to this idea. He just knows how to answer these questions 'properly'. This. He's been around long enough to know what to say. Still, just make an original film with a female hero. Exactly. The problem is not with his answer, it's with the question itself. Why on Earth should there be a female Indy? Come up with new characters, don't just leech off beloved Ips. All this talk about female James Bonds, Indiana Joneses and so on is highly annoying.
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Post by LaraQ on Apr 6, 2018 16:34:33 GMT
If they do it, then Emily Blunt for the lead.
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Post by mikediastavrone96 on Apr 6, 2018 16:45:32 GMT
Yeah, this is a non-story. I must say, though, that it wouldn't really matter much to me either way to make Indiana Jones or James Bond or whatever else a woman. Using old characters to tell new stories isn't much of a problem to me and though I understand the whole "just make an original female character," I don't think taking the Indiana Jones brand and turning it female will necessarily stymie the creation of original female characters nor do I think someone making an original female character to fit the mold of Indiana Jones (which has already happened with Lara Croft) would make for a significantly better product.
Hell, the hardest thing I'm grappling with is that Indiana Jones is getting a 5th film to begin with and is being talked about as though it is presumed to go the way of James Bond and be rebooted in perpetuity. Not only was the 4th film a disappointment, but I have a hard time believing the character is suited out of his '30s-'40s adventure serial setting considering he was always designed from the ground-up as a throwback.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2018 17:09:10 GMT
I don't really have a problem with this in theory but as others in this thread have said, why not just make a new, exciting female hero? Surely that would be the best option, right? So why not? Besides making more money by having the name already attached to a popular product, of course.
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Post by mrimpossible on Apr 6, 2018 17:14:38 GMT
Didn't we just have it last month with Tomb Raider?
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Post by rhodoraonline on Apr 7, 2018 1:14:00 GMT
Why can't Indiana be a woman's name? Is there a gender monopoly on state names?
On the other hand I'm open to an Indiana Jones female movie starring Rebecca Fergusan as Indiana's long lost adopted daughter Sabrina Jones who he sends on his next adventure in his place coz he's dying from prostrate cancer!
Now that would be something! ;-)
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Post by Martin Stett on Apr 7, 2018 3:03:43 GMT
Indiana joan for the female version? what's the name of the transsexual Indiana jones? San Francisco Jones.
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Post by speeders on Apr 7, 2018 14:37:50 GMT
Why can't Indiana be a woman's name? Is there a gender monopoly on state names? Actually here in Iceland, Indiana IS a female name so I don't understand all the drama
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Post by clunkybob2 on Apr 9, 2018 18:16:14 GMT
Indepussy Vajona and the Lost Tampon
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Apr 9, 2018 19:44:39 GMT
The gender reversal doesn't bother me. What bothers me is that we might get another Indiana Jones movie.
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Apr 9, 2018 19:46:14 GMT
On second thought, it does bother me a little. I'm kind of tired of women getting the leftovers.
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Post by Film Socialism on Apr 9, 2018 22:55:16 GMT
if we can reboot shitty franchises with male actors then i guess we can reboot them with women too, why not
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Post by tobias on Apr 10, 2018 4:10:51 GMT
Yeah, this is a non-story. I must say, though, that it wouldn't really matter much to me either way to make Indiana Jones or James Bond or whatever else a woman. Using old characters to tell new stories isn't much of a problem to me and though I understand the whole "just make an original female character," I don't think taking the Indiana Jones brand and turning it female will necessarily stymie the creation of original female characters nor do I think someone making an original female character to fit the mold of Indiana Jones (which has already happened with Lara Croft) would make for a significantly better product. Hell, the hardest thing I'm grappling with is that Indiana Jones is getting a 5th film to begin with and is being talked about as though it is presumed to go the way of James Bond and be rebooted in perpetuity. Not only was the 4th film a disappointment, but I have a hard time believing the character is suited out of his '30s-'40s adventure serial setting considering he was always designed from the ground-up as a throwback. I don't really understand how turning Indiana Jones into a female should work. He's a concrete character with the attribute of being male and he is very closely associated with Harrison Ford's looks. The only way to turn him into a woman without completely rewriting the story would be a sex transformation in his mid 60's or 70's. What you could make is a spinoff or as you say "making an original female character to fit the mold of Indiana Jones". The Bond films are inconsistent to begin with so there I guess you could do that as Bond is less a concrete character than a label. In both cases though it's more about the genre (adventure-film and spy-film) and in both cases I don't think there's anything wrong with putting a woman front and centre, it would even open up for some interesting subversions (because the previous characters were often macho stereotypes) but what worries me is that we seem to heighten franchises to entire genres. As for the 50th film I think technically speaking there's enough to tackle, we would be like in the 60's or 70's now with all the counterculture and political uproar (which is talked about more again today), that's definitely an interesting enviroment but above all I hope it will be a quieter film, like an elogy or swan song to the series where Jones himself grapples with his own mortality. This would even make the action more exciting because obviously he's not at his physical prime, so all kinds of danger become more accute. This is of course all in theory, not that I necesarilly expect it but still I couldn't imagine not watching it. I hope they don't extend the series post Spielberg & Ford though. As a general point: All this genderism tends to be so incredibly culturally tone deaf, it's laughable. There's a complete misunderstanding of the stereotype and where it came from. The proposition made here is basicly to give a male role to a woman, turning her into a man in the process. This isn't because you couldn't make a good Jones-esque or Bond-esque film with a female lead, you absolutely could and it could well outdo previous installements. But this isn't how people think this through, the plan is to give a woman a male role without ever questioning it beyond superficial shit, in the process completely shutting oneself off from any kind of reality that might exists as now an already heavily stereotyped representation is even given to the sex it is not associated with, further distancing it from any real origin. You could use this absurd situation for phantastic subversion and play with the stereotypes but generally this won't happen, instead you get a dull retreat of stuff that's been done before and it's done in the name of "equality". My ass, giving women leftover male stereotypes without questioning it and then even having the audacity to say it's in the name of equality is some of the worst institutionalized sexism I've ever seen. In that case equality means we should all be men, which is terrible regardless of your sex. What I would want would be a character with a female mythos, not Bond with a vagina.
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